But like, none of it is a tangible negative (except the economy thing which is just bullshit). Who cares about "division"? Who cares about being "toxic"? Suppose israel did enter the bad girls club like some few others, what other member of bad girls club got le bad hobo place to clean up their act because of a visit again
Um sweaty you have to be a GOOD FRICKING PERSON by lying down and opening your borders so a horde of terrorists who want to kill and r*pe you can rampage around with impunity otherwise their feelings might be hurt
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the major problem that leftoids of this nature have with understanding israel is that it doesn't matter at all if everyone online hates them. they blew their load 20 years ago by never shutting up about how ameriKKKa is a nazi state. no one cares. every fricking country is considered an evil imperial oppressive state by these people and nothing ever came of it
You guys all its neighbours have been reduced to meat and rubble. This is a great victory for Hamas!
Redditors man. It's like they mimic this kind of pompous language they think is all sage and professorly:
"If one takes a sober look at the situation one wouldn't believe..."
And then use it to delivery the most r-slurred Reddit takes ever.
Israel has never been popular with the Arab world since Biblical times. The only success Hamas have had is duping western dipshits into thinking they are innocent victims.
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Economic collapse? Not as long as they get the gibs. Fewer allies? They need only one. Everyone knows that US supports them unconditionally, I don't understand why Redditors think like this? Even the guy below acknowledges the US support, but there is no reflection.
Also, Toxic Zionism? People knowing Palestine history? ok?
And the last comment is epitome of "if you kill your enemies they win".
Israel has a diversified economy and doesn't rely on US aid. I think that stopped like a decade ago and they didn't even need it then. But if the war goes on forever that's going to mean a big decline in their standard of living.
People forget that US aid to Israel is almost exclusively us selling weapons and technology to them, not economic assistance. Even if the US shut down aid and sanctioned Israel they would probably immediately start buying shit from China (and selling vital intelligence services with them, which is why it would be bad for the US to abandon Israel.
Wasn't Israel under constant Arab aggression since forever? What makes this the forever war that will decline their living standards, that were achieved while fighting too?
I know this an escalation, but they had those before and things calmed down for a while after each of those.
Are you talking about Palestinian terrorism? Because the last major war was in 1973 and they've had permanent peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan for decades.
What I'm concerned about for them is that again the plan apparently is to occupy South Lebanon forever. Assuming anyone has a plan. I think they're just drifting into this again with no strategy. But it will be way way more expensive than the 1982-2000 war because Hezbollah can just shoot a rocket every few days and make them shoot Iron Dome at it. I don't see anyone in Israel understanding that when they killed Nasrallah they made a commitment to fight there for years.
I was talking about Arabs attacking them in general, through terrorism or otherwise.
Well, I don't have anything to add since I don't know that much about this conflict, just asked out of curiosity why you thought this will be different than what came before when it comes to fighting hamas/hezbollah.
The danger isn't that Hezbollah is stronger or smarter or whatever, it's if they keep a low-intensity war going on. Look at how much goddarn money the US spent in Vietnam. There were long periods where nothing happened but everyone had to be careful because they could attack at any minute. That costs money.
I can't predict the future but at the very least, unlike in Gaza, Lebanon has a government that on some level does want to run the country independently. If Hezbollah is crippled enough it might give the government the room they need to finally regain some control of the situation and actually be able prevent Hezb growth.
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This neighbor so mindfricked he believe a legitimate casus belli is a trade agreement that included recognising PalestiBIPOCs as a requirement for the Saudis before they would finalise anything. Hamas fricked it up for Israel. They fricked it up for Saudi. They fricked it up for Palestine.
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Hamas fricked it up for Hezbollah and Iran too, thew didn't warn anybody and their allies were caught with their pants down and didn't managed to brace for Israel's reaction in time
Definitely, although I'd add that in practice Hezbollah had almost a year of no major Israeli operations against them to prepare for a real fight and still got wrecked as soon as the Israelis decided to get serious.
Hezbollah got very cocky. Weren't they the terrorist group that managed to root out all the CIA spies from their organization? Plenty of them also managed to kill burger soldiers and evade capture for decades. They thought themselves unbeatable at this point. This cockiness definitely worked in Israel's favor
Yeah they've done many competent operations but the last one I can think of was 18 years ago. They might have rested on their laurels while Israel kept getting stronger. Of course it doesn't help them that Israel has many more resources than they do, so Israel's ceiling is much higher than their ceiling.
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Israel can keep this up forever. I mean literally forever without any help from America. The question is whether you would want to live in that country.
@kaamrev You of all people should understand what I'm talking about.
Your comment has 2 parts. I didn't question where you said "Israel can keep this up forever" I questioned where you said "do you want to live in [a forever war]?".
To be clear about what I mean by question how about I just answer you. "No".
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Do you want to have rockets falling on you and constantly go to reserve training and sent to Lebanon and all that shit?
I'm not saying there's some magical easy solution for Israel, I'm just wondering if anybody has got a plan for how this could end in your lifetime.
I know you'll never understand this (since you've misinterpreted about 100 comments I've made in the past) but I actually do give a shit about you and your people and I don't want you to have to live like this forever.
Last time I checked the absolute gold standard method for determining how happy people are in happiness research was... asking people how happy they feel lol
The richest countries in the world where people simultaneously don't work very much. It's a real mystery why they're happy, it must be because they're gaming the stats somehow.
I'm not misinterpreting because there was nothing to interpret. Alls I'm saying is your comment nothing and I'm asking what you were trying to say with it.
I'm not saying there's some magical easy solution for Israel, I'm just wondering if anybody has got a plan for how this could end in your lifetime.
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You really hate em with your whole being, donchha?
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Lol, coward.
Be honest with yourself, why do they obsess you so? Why is it always negative? The Jews didn't turn your dad into a wreck
Or cripple you, 4f. Why the obvious hateful obsession?
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And you are the perfect example of an intellectual coward who is only ever guessing, and always wrong.
Keep it up tho, I'm sure it'll fix your legs, you fricken libertarian Nazi.
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When most of your leaders have been killed, you've lost a large fraction of your fighting force, your land has been reduced to ruins, and even though your only chance of winning was to court world opinion, you started your military campaign by kidnapping and killing hundreds of civilians while livestreaming it... you win!
>This was the endgame of the Iranian regime - their goal was to get 40,000 Palestinians killed in order to tip the diplomatic scales in the region against Israel. Iran's proxies in the region are in shambles, with Hamas and Hezbollah's leaders all but eliminated, and Iran traded them for keeping Israel out of the regional conversation.
Oh yea sure, the Iranians have some master long-term plan, they aren't just flailing morons who failed to keep the leashes on their pet dogs and are now desperately trying to make the best of a bad situation...
>I honestly think that 7-october will go down as the most effective and "brilliant" terrorist attack in human history. [...] They knew that Netanyahu's response would alienate the world, and they knew Israeli domestic politics coerced him into such a response.
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Yeah Israel is going to have economic collapse, right after they are expelled from congress and 90% of the nefarious governing bodies on the planet, ownership of the major banks and entertainment industry. Right around the corner, we gottem
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if someone's only source of news is reddit commie subs and breadtube they probably think all of that is true
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You just don't have media literacy chud. You wouldn't get it.
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It's not because redditors are ignorant, which they are, it's because, as we all know, if you kill your enemies they win.
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But like, none of it is a tangible negative (except the economy thing which is just bullshit). Who cares about "division"? Who cares about being "toxic"? Suppose israel did enter the bad girls club like some few others, what other member of bad girls club got le bad hobo place to clean up their act because of a visit again
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Um sweaty you have to be a GOOD FRICKING PERSON by lying down and opening your borders so a horde of terrorists who want to kill and r*pe you can rampage around with impunity otherwise their feelings might be hurt
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Dramaredditors who about paliBIPOCs
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I forget that sometimes you just make up a guy to be upset about
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Black Lives Matter
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omg hi @Grue!!! okay so this is like super awkward omg but basically i had to remove ur comment bc u didnt say
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Wdym?
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So you think normalization is closer than ever?
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the major problem that leftoids of this nature have with understanding israel is that it doesn't matter at all if everyone online hates them. they blew their load 20 years ago by never shutting up about how ameriKKKa is a nazi state. no one cares. every fricking country is considered an evil imperial oppressive state by these people and nothing ever came of it
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Every fricking state that It Is not a third world shitholbe
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"We need to lock people up for not masking and refusing to get an experimental jab, unless they are in a blm riot, then that negates Covid."
"Why don't people trust le heckun science???"
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Which side is this about?
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But nothing affects America because the world runs on it- Israel is shithole adjacent/import dependent enough for opinions to matter
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winning wars is bad for your long term interests
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Depends on how you do it
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Redditors man. It's like they mimic this kind of pompous language they think is all sage and professorly:
"If one takes a sober look at the situation one wouldn't believe..."
And then use it to delivery the most r-slurred Reddit takes ever.
Israel has never been popular with the Arab world since Biblical times. The only success Hamas have had is duping western dipshits into thinking they are innocent victims.
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The fact the Arab world hasn't all dove in to help Palestine is clear relations still aren't as bad as they were in the 60s lol
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The way the arabs actively fricked each other over while supposedly fighting together against israel is impressive.
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Economic collapse? Not as long as they get the gibs. Fewer allies? They need only one. Everyone knows that US supports them unconditionally, I don't understand why Redditors think like this? Even the guy below acknowledges the US support, but there is no reflection.
Also, Toxic Zionism? People knowing Palestine history? ok?
And the last comment is epitome of "if you kill your enemies they win".
Redditors.
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Israel has a diversified economy and doesn't rely on US aid. I think that stopped like a decade ago and they didn't even need it then. But if the war goes on forever that's going to mean a big decline in their standard of living.
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People forget that US aid to Israel is almost exclusively us selling weapons and technology to them, not economic assistance. Even if the US shut down aid and sanctioned Israel they would probably immediately start buying shit from China (and selling vital intelligence services with them, which is why it would be bad for the US to abandon Israel.
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it's mostly Lockmart giftcards.
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Wasn't Israel under constant Arab aggression since forever? What makes this the forever war that will decline their living standards, that were achieved while fighting too?
I know this an escalation, but they had those before and things calmed down for a while after each of those.
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Are you talking about Palestinian terrorism? Because the last major war was in 1973 and they've had permanent peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan for decades.
What I'm concerned about for them is that again the plan apparently is to occupy South Lebanon forever. Assuming anyone has a plan. I think they're just drifting into this again with no strategy. But it will be way way more expensive than the 1982-2000 war because Hezbollah can just shoot a rocket every few days and make them shoot Iron Dome at it. I don't see anyone in Israel understanding that when they killed Nasrallah they made a commitment to fight there for years.
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I was talking about Arabs attacking them in general, through terrorism or otherwise.
Well, I don't have anything to add since I don't know that much about this conflict, just asked out of curiosity why you thought this will be different than what came before when it comes to fighting hamas/hezbollah.
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The danger isn't that Hezbollah is stronger or smarter or whatever, it's if they keep a low-intensity war going on. Look at how much goddarn money the US spent in Vietnam. There were long periods where nothing happened but everyone had to be careful because they could attack at any minute. That costs money.
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vietnam was half a globe away. lebanon is practically in their backyard.
vietdogs wouldve evolved into a forever tunnel people had drones been invented at that time
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I can't predict the future but at the very least, unlike in Gaza, Lebanon has a government that on some level does want to run the country independently. If Hezbollah is crippled enough it might give the government the room they need to finally regain some control of the situation and actually be able prevent Hezb growth.
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and israel can blow up the neighbourhood from where it was launched
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Yeah,,,?
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This neighbor so mindfricked he believe a legitimate casus belli is a trade agreement that included recognising PalestiBIPOCs as a requirement for the Saudis before they would finalise anything. Hamas fricked it up for Israel. They fricked it up for Saudi. They fricked it up for Palestine.
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Hamas fricked it up for Hezbollah and Iran too, thew didn't warn anybody and their allies were caught with their pants down and didn't managed to brace for Israel's reaction in time
Kamala will win
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Definitely, although I'd add that in practice Hezbollah had almost a year of no major Israeli operations against them to prepare for a real fight and still got wrecked as soon as the Israelis decided to get serious.
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Hezbollah got very cocky. Weren't they the terrorist group that managed to root out all the CIA spies from their organization? Plenty of them also managed to kill burger soldiers and evade capture for decades. They thought themselves unbeatable at this point. This cockiness definitely worked in Israel's favor
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Yeah they've done many competent operations but the last one I can think of was 18 years ago. They might have rested on their laurels while Israel kept getting stronger. Of course it doesn't help them that Israel has many more resources than they do, so Israel's ceiling is much higher than their ceiling.
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Israel shouldn't have cared about the raid and murders and kidnapping, they should have all shrugged it off!
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They consider them the adult in the situation and Palestinians are just kids misbehaving. That's totally not racist though.
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Source?
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All three have different meanings.
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Israel can keep this up forever. I mean literally forever without any help from America. The question is whether you would want to live in that country.
@kaamrev You of all people should understand what I'm talking about.
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What are you implying about @kaamrev?
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That's not a question at all lol
America will always help them + they have nukes and religion
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Well since "do you want to live in a forever war?" is obviously not a serious question I have no idea what this comment is supposed to say
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I'm saying that Israel hasn't "lost" and it's never going to "lose". That's not an outcome that's possible. Israel is way too strong for that happen.
English motherlover. Do you speak it?
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Do you?
Your comment has 2 parts. I didn't question where you said "Israel can keep this up forever" I questioned where you said "do you want to live in [a forever war]?".
To be clear about what I mean by question how about I just answer you. "No".
Now what?
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Do you want to have rockets falling on you and constantly go to reserve training and sent to Lebanon and all that shit?
I'm not saying there's some magical easy solution for Israel, I'm just wondering if anybody has got a plan for how this could end in your lifetime.
I know you'll never understand this (since you've misinterpreted about 100 comments I've made in the past) but I actually do give a shit about you and your people and I don't want you to have to live like this forever.
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Given that Israel is topping happiness indexes it would seem that the answer is yes.
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The ones made by Sweden where they claim that Swedes are happy?
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Last time I checked the absolute gold standard method for determining how happy people are in happiness research was... asking people how happy they feel lol
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are you happy?
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The richest countries in the world where people simultaneously don't work very much. It's a real mystery why they're happy, it must be because they're gaming the stats somehow.
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Have you ever met a happy Swede? Think about it.
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I'm not misinterpreting because there was nothing to interpret. Alls I'm saying is your comment nothing and I'm asking what you were trying to say with it.
There, that's something.
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You really hate em with your whole being, donchha?
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No, but I get where you're coming from and why this is so important to you.
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Lol, coward.
Be honest with yourself, why do they obsess you so? Why is it always negative? The Jews didn't turn your dad into a wreck
Or cripple you, 4f. Why the obvious hateful obsession?
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is this true? @Rescarer0
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This kid is like 12 years old. I don't pay attention. At that age I was doing more productive things online, like playing Star Trek MUDs.
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And you are the perfect example of an intellectual coward who is only ever guessing, and always wrong.
Keep it up tho, I'm sure it'll fix your legs, you fricken libertarian Nazi.
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!metashit GET IN HERE BOOMER VS ZOOMER FIGHT!!!
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Of course they're swedistanis
Kamala will win
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tl;dr If you kill your enemies, they win.
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It does seem that terrorism often ends up being counterproductive
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Of course they're swedistanis
Kamala will win
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As opposed to Hamas who aren't considered controversial at all, because they're just straight up fricking terrorists.
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Gaza is a rubble pile and they claim victory
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2 more weeks!
No.
Lol.
I agree but doesn't mean much.
I agree but no tangibles.
Probably not.
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Snapshots:
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muzzies are delusional, as usual.
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Sure all their leaders are dead and their cities are turned to rubble but they made shitlibs mad at the Jews. Our Jewish overlords are shaking in fear
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When most of your leaders have been killed, you've lost a large fraction of your fighting force, your land has been reduced to ruins, and even though your only chance of winning was to court world opinion, you started your military campaign by kidnapping and killing hundreds of civilians while livestreaming it... you win!
Oh yea sure, the Iranians have some master long-term plan, they aren't just flailing morons who failed to keep the leashes on their pet dogs and are now desperately trying to make the best of a bad situation...
The copium...
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Yeah Israel is going to have economic collapse, right after they are expelled from congress and 90% of the nefarious governing bodies on the planet, ownership of the major banks and entertainment industry. Right around the corner, we gottem
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Yeah the idea that the literal Jewish state is going to have economic collapse is a bit implausible...
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One problem isreal has is that i hate jews
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Redditors need to stop supporting camel fricking savages that love blowing up buildings.
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