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What's the alternative? Occupy Lebanon?

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If you unironically told me this was going to be the outcome going into this a few month ago I would have laughed at you. Admittedly it's better than my chief worry of quagmire but 2006 redux is still pathetic in my eyes.

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What wouldn't have been pathetic?

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Please don't do this. This is the copium the Russians have been doing.

Fair enough yes. There aren't many solutions that are much better but that just says the entire northern operation was bad on a political level long before you get to the strategic and operational.

Again I admit this sounds hard on the Israelis but this is still not a good outcome even if you go and define it as the best outcome possible (and I don't even though the counter ideas in my head are somewhat fantastical imo).

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I have nothing to cope about, the result exceeded my expectations by a lot, I'm just surprised you don't see it this way. All the military goals on the northern front were met in a timely manner with negligible casualties.

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Your expectations were lower than 2006? What would be a fail state for you then?

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Failure would be hundreds of dead civilians, the war dragging on, or Hezbollah being roughly as strong now as it was before the war.

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That was never going to happen. Dragging on would be the fail state for me. That was never going to happen.

Your fail state had no real chance of occurring by that metric. I won't deny a man his happiness and positivity so I won't harp on about it but this is no win in my eyes is all I'll say and if not followed through on (which could very well end up tipping into that quagmire) it'll be a loss.

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Wouldn't you agree that lot less civilians died than was reasonable to expect or that hezbolla was weakened a lot more than was reasonable to expect?

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You can't nation build using war, you have to measure it's success by the cost (civilian deaths, time, money) vs benefit (how much weaker the enemy is).

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