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:marlion: Singapore's Sky-High Car Prices Are a Warning for Global Hustle & Bustlecels :marseyseethe:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-06/singapore-s-sky-high-car-prices-are-a-warning-for-global-cities

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Singapore media professional Ellie Lim gave up her plan to buy a new Volvo SUV to ferry her newborn baby when she realized it was going to cost her more than S$200,000 ($142,000).

"I was quite shocked," said Lim, 34. Coupled with high interest rates on car loans, fuel prices and maintenance fees, buying a new car is "a financially unsound decision," she said. Why would you spend the cost of an apartment from the government's Housing & Development Board for a rapidly depreciating asset? "These are all like HDB flats running on the road."

Lim's lament is a common one in Singapore, which strictly controls the number of vehicles on its roads by forcing buyers to bid for a limited quota of permits, making its autos among the most expensive in the world. Last month, pent-up consumer demand and a growing appetite for electric vehicles pushed the price of those permits to yet another record. But Singapore's model of making cars a luxury, balanced by spending billions on a ubiquitous and efficient public transport system, is beginning to look less crazy as other global cities try to build more sustainable infrastructure.

"If you're a city urban planner, you'd look at Singapore," said Song Seng Wun, an economist at CIMB Private Banking. It's "one of the only cities that can keep its car population down. You can't build more roads without taking space and resources from others, so if you want to drive, pay."

Singapore's government controls traffic growth with a series of quotas and taxes that can push up the on-the-road cost of a car to five times the wholesale price in the country of manufacture. The biggest levy is the Certificate of Entitlement, which is set in a twice-monthly auction. The COE gives the right to run a vehicle for 10 years in Singapore. Once it expires, you either have to scrap or export the car, or buy another COE.

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Today, bidding in the top category rose to a record S$110,524. Rates are likely to remain elevated until at least the end of 2022, according to economists and dealers.

"With more people back to work in offices and resilient household balance sheets, demand for big-ticket items like cars has rebounded," said Selena Ling, Head of Treasury Research & Strategy at Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. in Singapore. "It is challenging to call the top for now."

Singapore's Land Transport Authority said COEs are allocated via a market based mechanism. "The recent high prices are a natural outcome of the high demand, which has been sustained since 2H 2020," the LTA said in an email.

Singapore is able to implement such an expensive car-ownership program partly because it's a small island that has only two road links to neighboring Malaysia. Most big cities have large hinterlands and more traffic running in and out of the city, so they have to rely on other mechanisms to curb growth, such as road pricing and vehicle restrictions.

"Issuing COE-like ownership permits in order to eventually restrict the car population may be a bridge too far for most cities," said Chua Soon Ghee, a partner at AT Kearney. "What typically works better is providing more attractive alternatives to car usage such as improving public transportation or allocating more of the road to bicycles or pedestrians, and making car usage more expensive and inconvenient."

London, for example, charges drivers 15 pounds ($17.87) a day to enter the central zone during the week, compared with a top rush-hour fee of S$3 for the Singapore CBD, before rates were reduced temporarily because of the pandemic. New York is planning to adopt a similar system next year.

But increasingly, urban planners are advocating that the real solution to the pollution and waste from automobiles is simply to have fewer of them. Even all-electric vehicles use up resources and energy, usually to move just one person. A shift from private car ownership to flexible urban autonomous public transport systems has fueled predictions that the world is close to peak car ownership, an idea that meshes with Singapore's restriction on growth.

For most Singaporeans, that means sticking to public transport, taking taxis or using ride-hailing or car-sharing services.

"You don't need to own a vehicle in Singapore," said Walter Theseira, associate professor at the Singapore University of Social Sciences. "Unrestrained growth in the vehicle population would lead to a ridiculous amount of congestion."

The city added 1,000 buses and 200 trains in the decade to 2021, and is building three new subway lines to ensure that 80% of households will be within 10 minutes' walk of a station. All told, the government said it plans to spend more than S$60 billion on the rail network this decade. Each year, it also spends about S$2 billion on subsidizing bus and train fares.

Despite packing 5 million people onto an island half the size of London, Singapore ranked 96 out of 416 cities globally in the TomTom traffic congestion index in 2019, the year before Covid disrupted transport. Last year, it was 88th out of 404.

Still, Singapore's higher vehicle costs come with risks. Among them, soaring car costs can reduce the city's competitiveness in luring international talent. The island was already the second-most-expensive place in Asia for expats to live and work after Hong Kong, according to Mercer's most recent Cost of Living Survey.

Other costs are also rising as Singapore feels the effects of global inflation. Private home rents have skyrocketed and food prices were up 4.5% in May from a year earlier. Most Singaporeans are experiencing increases above the official inflation index and expect price pressures to continue for the next year, according to a survey by DBS Group.

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For customer service executive G Dharshen, the rising costs mean he's had to give up owning a car as the COE for his old Toyota Corolla Altis expired in May and he couldn't afford to replace it.

"It was just not worth it," said Dharshen, 27. He said even a second-hand car was not an option as sellers have increased prices in response to the growing cost of new vehicles.

One encouraging sign is that the government has begun offering incentives to switch to hybrid or electric vehicles. The LTA said it will add 12,000 charging stations in public housing car parks by 2025 and have 60,000 nationwide by 2030.

"Preferences are now trending toward electric-vehicle and hybrid-car models," said Steven Teo, a managing director at car distributor Trans Eurokars Pte Ltd. Authorities in May reclassified electric vehicles with a power rating of up to 110 kilowatts into a more affordable COE category.

Meanwhile, some would-be car owners like Ellie Lim are biding their time in the hopes that prices will eventually ease off. A "weaker global outlook is likely to damp demand," said Bloomberg Economics' Tamara Henderson.

Lim currently takes taxis or borrows her father's car. "You have no choice but to put up with inconvenience for now, praying that the prices will come down," she said. "But it looks like they're still rising. There are a lot of Singaporeans who can part with the money."


And no, the roads are STILL congested :marseytrollcrazy::marseytrollcrazy::marseytrollcrazy:

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wholesome, over in the netherlands we mostly just have an anti fun tax where any engine worth having adds tens of thousands to a car's price. a fricking nissan 350z was like 100k new because of that tax

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How much is 100k netherbucks in a real currency? Like bitcoin or ethereum.


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Same as a us monopoly dollar

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Oh so it's worth nothing at all? Sad


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No gold backing it but it's still worth something because... It just is ok!

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It's a tax receipt, a proof that you are a good gov cuckboi


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How does it compare to Belgium? Is Belgium the cheaper country with terrible roads?

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roads are really good in the netherlands, BUT having a car is expensive, fuel is much more expensive than any of our neighbors, parking can be really expensive and thanks to some r-slurred treaty our government is cutting down on nitrogen emissions. this last thing is also the cause of the farmer protests, but the first thing they did was change the highway speed limit to 100 nationwide which is slow as FRICK

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Your government may be r-slurred but I loved my time there and now I'm moving there to be a farmer and marry Eva. Or cheer on farmers and marry Eva. Or just show up and marry a cousin of hers. Besides the Cantonese fighting the Chinese idk who's been more based besides the farmers there.

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If you aren't mentally disabled you get a company car in belgium. :marseyhomofascist:

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The way the dutch govermnet cowtows to urban lefties by banning r-slurred shit and absolutely benda ovwr for the port of rotterdam is unbelievably based tbh

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I hate the VVD so goddam much

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Well eceryone else is somehow more r-slurred so you are getting rutte 542 zand theres nothing u can do abt it

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At that point just have the thing smuggled

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Just take the subway? Why would you need a car in Singapore? lol (trans lives matter)

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Oh I bet you'd LOVE to take the subway just to grope women, Mr Yamate

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Crowded, yeah, but at least the car looks clean. I guess they don’t have a tremendous number of them, given the size of Singapore.

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You mean trains? The whole island is trained out and we have a lot of trains (the useful ones)

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Wow that’s …actually really well designed.

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It looks like one of my Mini Metro games, so I'll take the compliment.

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No permits or citizen engagement: they just bulldozed everybody in the path right into the foundation.

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Lol does that subway go in a circle? That’s great

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Yup that's one of the relatively newer subway lines very creatively named the Circle Line which unironically helps a lot because in the past you might have to switch subway lines for like really short distances which is really r-slurred lol

I mean there are bus routes (which I prefer instead of being packed like srdines on the trains) but touristcels might get confused

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Capitalist Asians are so smart

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It kinda helped that we had a strongman type of leader whom I'm very sure in current year would be called Trumpian lol

@Sal I just noticed that the striking pilots literally went no where in 2 weeks :marseysal:

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He was actually competent, unlike Trump.

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OG radical centerist

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God that's beautiful. I just came

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Stunning and beautiful

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I can't believe they linked up.

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Its also not very diverse :marseyhmm:

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wrong sweaty, we just do not believe in affirmative action

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Is affirmative action what makes mass transit disgusting and unsafe for real people? :marseyhmmm:

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That and self-hating mayo policy makers

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What the heck is this? Does Singapore accept anybody to serve like the USA and French foreign legion?

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No lmao, you have to serve to gain citizenship or permanent residency status and we don't allow dual citizenship (RIP burger passport :marseycrying:) so those are just patriotic Singaporeans :!marseysalutearmy:

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What are the perks over being a citizen instead of a permanent resident?

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Housing, education, healthcare, parenthood subsidies and benefits (honestly we're not a welfare state so it's not a lot of $$$), being able to vote, the "privilege" of having to contribute up to 20% of your salary to our "retirement" fund that most people don't get to use (lmao) since they keep raising the retirement age - I think that's the gist of it

Disadvantages: 2 years of mandatory full-time military service if you're a male, no dual citizenship and probably stuff that I don't remember

It does seem pretty cucked but the alternative of being a permanent resident here and a burger citizen would probably be even more cucked because I'd need to pay a lot of taxes to the IRS as a burger working overseas :marseyshrug:

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No, @Totoro use the subway too get from A too B, also @Totoro have a future wife. (Trans lives matter)

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Rookie train car density tbh. Look at all the room they have

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And no one shooting up, not one drunk guy screaming at people, and not a soul begging for money :marseydisagree:

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And no one shooting up

:#marseyropeyourself2: The noose is a strong deterrent

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Allah bless Singapore

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I actually love my country so I try not to show the less glamorous parts but here you are

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Now thats more like it. Nice and cozy like my morning commute

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:#marseykamikaze: 🤝 :#marlion:

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If all these people were commuting in cars, Singapore traffic would make Jakarta traffic look like a Wyoming highway.

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Sweaty whenever I travel on the Singapore-Malaysia causeway I suddenly become very pro open borders because FRICK THAT CONGESTED SHIT :!marseyraging:

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Darn it seems like the majority of foids are veiled in that picture lol :marseyhijab:

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I'm guessing Madrasah (islamic school) students cause it's uncommon even for adults and public schools don't allow hijabs

And I just spotted a BIPOC kween in the picture!!! :marseykween:

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I'm guessing Madrasah (islamic school) students cause it's uncommon even for adults and public schools don't allow hijabs

I looked "singapore muslim" up on twitter bc I was curious and this was the first thing to come up #canceled https://x.com/NassirAminu/status/1545877267703861248

I have to say that it's pretty hilarious to see someone ranting about Islam in a New York accent :marseyxd:

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You guys allow madrasahs? :marseyitsover: You're going to be part of the Sultanate of Malaysia sometime in this century, start practicing the shahada.

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lmao Malays are the natives here sweaty

but just to satiate you it's an open secret that they don't get posted to our sensitive military units like those with tanks and fighter planes and all those cool shit (in reality tanks are actually fricking annoying to deal with and no one wants to be posted there lol)

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Yeah driving tanks in tropical climates must not be fun. If there's ever a war and I get get to volunteer I hope I get put into the artillery, I'll bully the maths nerds and make big guns go boom all day long. :!marseyagree: And also pose shirtless for any foid journos that might be visiting. :marseybuff:

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>grope women

lol, who tf wants a handful of pancake-butt or fried-egg titty?

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lmao have you not met Yamate?

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I don't want to be groped!

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the mrt is pretty based ngl

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You can’t build more roads without taking space and resources from others, so if you want to drive, pay.”

This is what you get when your country forgot to conquer any land.

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:marseyxd: sweaty we have mandatory military service to avoid being conquered, so I don't think conquering other lands would be on our priority list

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"we need to avoid being conquered so we can't conquer any land"

X (formerly chiobu) if ur people conquer a lot of land you'll be harder to conquer

just take malaysia/indonesia/china/russia

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lmao that's like South Korea reconciling with North Korea and then having to take the economic burden for the whole Korean peninsula so unfortunately it's a no for me because I'm selfish

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>Implying you would give them rights instead of treating them like roman provinces

tsk

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:#marseysaluteisrael: >>:#marseyjewoftheorient:

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I'm not saying u should annex Myanmar, but I am saying nows the time if you were gonna

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I've been there sweaty so don't try to trick me

Anyway China has already pretty much annexed Myanmar :marseyxd:

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:#marseytears:

YWN do a blitzkrieg up the Irrawaddy , park a aircraft carrier group right off Yangon and reclaim the Eastern portions of Akhand Bharat.

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Yangon? Naypyidaw's where the action at, nothing says governmental corruption like 12 lanes of expressway with barely any vehicles or that somehow the new designated capital city is almost devoid of people

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Idk if Chinx are smart or stupid sometimes. How did they even imagine that project would go in a country like Myanmar, with very weak central authority? :hmph:

A part of my family fled the Japanese invasion from Yangon and every part of the world my family dwelt in, in the 19th century is our rightful clay. :!marseyagree:

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Lol I think they're doing it for favours like in Africa? Idk man Myanmar is corrupt as frick and visiting a general's home there was an eye-opener but I'm not doing that shit again :marseyscared:

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Sounds like an interesting story. Do tell :!marseyagree:

Favours are fine and all but money doesn't grow on trees even for China. Colombo city project is already gone. Ethiopia, who knows what'll happen there. Tigray seems to be a stalemate but I doubt the place will be commercially viable if it continues to stay at war. Burgers seem opposed to them. Chinx can't just write off everything, even burgers can't. If they just wanted to bribe the leaders they could get them for a lot cheaper.

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if you sell your car now, you would probably make a profit?

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Why yes, I do have a fleet of investment Nissans, mad?


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And do the BMW? :marseypearlclutch2: In this weather!? :marseysweating:

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well think about your carbon footprint :chudsey:

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Singaporeans try not being selfish challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

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Singapore is more and more like a right wing Norway. Big Daddy Government gives you many things to satisfy your material greed but it's rather socially conservative, like a Confucian shithole.

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I don't think it's easy to classify us as left or right because we love our immigrants (mostly the rich ones)

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we love our immigrants (mostly the rich ones)

That was literally right wing until the last 15 years

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it more just shows the two types of right wing: economics believers and r-slurs

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Still rather right wing when it comes to LGBT or drugs. That said I love seeing weedcels executed.

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I was for LGBT rights and always have been but for obvious reasons I'm for LGB rights nowadays :marseysipping:

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I don't hate trans ppl. I just hate the neogender crowd and the blind anti-detrans attitude.

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Globohomo strikes again

Own nothing etc

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:#marseyraging: WE'RE ALL HOME OWNERS SWEATY (for 99 years)

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That was the craziest part for me. Even if you pay 300k for it you dont get to pass it on to your grandchildren. I couldn’t comprehend living like that

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I'll be paying 600k for a shoebox because it's a "good investment" :marseycrying: thank god for the current house because I can't comprehend living like that too

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You live crammed into a barrel, what do you need cars for?

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It's a good idea but in the west they would just do the first part of stealing my money then give that money to their friends instead of investing in anything

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it is what it is

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Always has been

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i understand the struggle:marseyturkroach:

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No wonder my Turkish friend loves to post pictures of his BMW lmao

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That's just a balkan "chav" thing.

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Dude Balkans are quite different from people when it comes to cars.

I had a co-worker saying he can't afford a car since a new car about 15k -40k. When i asked him to maybe look at used cars he fricking looked at me like i pump and dumped his father

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Nah there's a specific demographic of people that usually buys BMWs in the balkans, called Gasers. They usually wear adidas sweatpants, armani tshirts, nike air max shoes, those male "handbags", and they always drive a 10-15 year old BMW, imported from Germany. (The closest western equivalent is chav. Gopniks would be similar as well)

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You don't buy used cars in the Balkans, you simply take them from Germans foolish enough to park in certain neighborhoods

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i pump and dumped his father

balkussy

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wtf lmao, is it taxes or is the pay just shit?

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Low pay, high taxes, 100%+ yearly inflation. Typical Turkish things

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both. the tax is like double the actual price of the car. include to that the murder of the lira, and you got a recipe for disaster.

i have a 20 year old toyota, a wagie would need to stock shelves for 3 years without any expenditure to buy it off me.

feels good to be rich.

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This is Singapore? I thought it was a Polish Caliphate flag, lol.

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The COE gives the right to run a vehicle for 10 years in Singapore. Once it expires, you either have to scrap or export the car, or buy another COE.

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On the other hand this is based since poorcels cannot afford

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Yeah but it doesn't solve the congested roads at all and it's peanuts to corpos so it's actually not based aesthetics wise to see mostly industrial vehicles on the roads lol

And JFC I didn't know it was this bad for motorcyclists too :marseylaugh:

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Singapore's Sky-High Car Prices Are Warning for Global Cities

Singapore is not like any other city

And no, the roads are STILL congested :marseytrollcrazy::marseytrollcrazy::marseytrollcrazy:

come to the USA sometime and I will show you real traffic

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This is good for oil and gas

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:#marseychristmaself2:

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New York:

fewer of them:

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