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:marseyterrydavis: GLOWIES :marseyglow: SEETHING GLOWIES :marseyshutitdown: SEETHING :marseyterrydavis: :marseysoypointglow: (they can't look at your marsey folder anymore) :marseycapyitsdown:

https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner

Basically your computer runs code at all times it has power even when you think it's turned off. This is entirely :marseyglow: for :marseyglow2: security :marseycope: purposes :marseygamer: If you remove this code from your system (already quite tricky) then your computer will :marseynoooticer: and shut itself down 30 minutes later. This is all for your own good chud and even though it has complete access to everything on the disk and the networking stack there is no way it would ever be used for anything malicious.

Anyway here's a project that seems to gut all the functional bits from the nasty intel glowME but stops your computer from :marseybsod:. Read all about it, it seems fairly interesting and there's some guides with colour pictures and everything. I think I'll give it a try next time I'm setting up a laptop.

>inb4 "nerd".

If you say "nerd" then that ghost of someone or other will r*pe you in your sleep or something or other.

If I come to your house to frick and there is any electronic device in your bedroom other than a librebooted GNU/Linux :marseygroomerarch: thinkpad <T480 then we are done windowsboi. :marseywindows:

ted talks if they were good: https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8782-intel_me_myths_and_reality

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Oh it's about IntelME

That thing that is kinda like a second processor that you have no access to and is built into every modern intel product?

Cool! :marsey:

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AMD were also super cool in adding the same feature, so no matter which chipmaker you choose, you won't miss out! :marseywholesome:

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And AMD closed sourced theirs due to "lack of interest" and totes not the NSA

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Idio4TheApes's money is the CIA not NSA. Fits their motto better. Plus, it’s the CIA that has a history of owning many, many corporations in the information sphere.

Idio4TheApes STAND WITH ISRAEL.

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Keyed AMD

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Keyed? Keyed on what?

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On _NSAKEY.

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applechads stay winning?

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You have access to it. You just can't disable it, which is what (rightfully) causes seethe.

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Me omw to disable It and plant a claymore in my front door

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Glowies use windows you dumb hardR.

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I use Linux

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keyed OS

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Key deez nuts lmao

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Keyed? Keyed on what?

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just use a risc-v cpu from china (JH7110) and you won't have to deal with glowME :marseyglow2:

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:marseyjewoftheorientglow:

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the CCP won't be able to waco US citizens yet so don't worry

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中共万岁

我哥们。男孩 猫 lmao!

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:marseypirate: : You best be watchin' yer mouth, landlubber, before I make ye walk the plank! We'll be gettin' the best CPU for this ship, and it won't be some second-rate Chinese knock-off!

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Has anyone ever actually demonstrated using ME as a backdoor? It's been a point of discussion for years but I've yet to see an actual proof of concept.

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yep! there was a vulnerability a few years ago that intel had to patch with a weird firmware update that couldn't be installed like a normal windows update so most people didn't update at all :marseylaugh:

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Yeah, it's just really hard, and those vulnerabilities have been patched at the cost of performance. But I'm not sure about the remote access solely through Intel ME.

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I mean, a second processor that you can't prove doesn't have access to your data once decrypted is sorta a big deal. I've never ran across anything in my firewall and been like "aha! they are using intelME on me!" it's very existence is an issue. What if you found a way to compromise it? How would anyone ever know they were exposed?


Read what I wrote above. Now picture in your head that I put a /s at the end. Good job sweaty! :marseygigaretard:

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No shit, I was just curious.

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How will AI take control of your computer at the inevitable point in time when it reaches singularity?

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/16810667440106776.webp

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>inevitable

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If it exists the glowies wouldn't tell anyone about it. The NSA has just sat on massive security vulnerabilities in Windows before until it became known independently that it existed.


Trans Lives Matter but GlowBIPOC Lives Do Not

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Move it to /h/slackernews if you want to give your post a boost from the algo. SN nerds will love it.

Report the post as /h/slackernews and it'll be moved to there.

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:chaddonekingcapy:

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you got tricked btw, hole post get downranked in the the algo and in aggregate it tends to gets you fewer clicks, especially now that everybody is spammed with ping notifs and doesn't check for subscribed holes anymore

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:marseymisinformation#:

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zoz

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zle

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zozzle

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This sounds an awful lot like "deleting system32 will make your computer go faster" to me.

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:marseywindows: :marseywhirlyhat:

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That's literally what it is except that instead of simply breaking your windows distros you are literally breaking your computer to get away from the "evil" boot up sequence.

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"Windows "distros"" :marseyyikes:

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Didn't Purism figure out how to deal with Intel ME a long time ago?

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Yes IIRC. But I think they do something special in the "make the laptop" step that we, the poor end users, cannot replicate. Or they're just doing this thing but they kept it a secret. Their website isn't loading for me right now.

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>T480

>not x200

:#marseysmug2:

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The < indicated "before", even though I would also include the T480 and T480s, so should have been <=. This would include the X200. Sorry I didn't make it clear. Anyway, please don't laugh at me :marseycryingfast:

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No, I understood that. I thought T480 was built too late to avoid the more recent proprietary architectural frickery. I was under the impression that Stallman abandoned the ThinkPad line a decade ago.

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oh ok. In my mind the T480 was the last "good" thinkpad, and the last I'd consider buying. I have a real soft spot for the T440P. Both are still powerful enough for the stuff I need to run on them. Stallman is a :marseyretardchad: and I wouldn't consider doing much that he insists on (except his great web design).

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Stallman is a :marseyretardchad: and I wouldn't consider doing much that he insists on

Yeah, he's pretty much the farthest end of the FOSS spectrum. I went to check what model of ThinkPad he uses before posting my other comment and I ran across this on his page:

Before that, I used an OLPC for some weeks. The OLPC uses a nonfree firmware blob for the WiFi, so I could not use the internal WiFi device. That was no big problem -- I used an external WiFi adaptor.

I stopped using it because the OLPC project decided to make their machine support Windows, so I did not want to appear to endorse it by visibly carrying it around.

Stallman truly is a turbosperg with no equal.

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honestly inspiring. I wish I had so little use for a computer that I could use a machine built out of breadboards and discount aliexpress chips that's just about capable of playing pong. We need to retvrn...

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:marseypirate: : Argh, ye scurvy landlubber! Ye be thinkin' that just because Stallman abandoned the ThinkPad line a decade ago, that the T480 was built too late to avoid the more recent proprietary architectural frickery? Ye be wrong, matey! The T480 was built with the latest and greatest in open source technology, and no proprietary architectural frickery is going to stand in our way!

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Unlike many other firmware components, the Intel ME firmware can't be neither disabled nor reimplemented

Can't be neither nor no way not never

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This claim has been debunked "Intel responded by saying that "Intel does not put back doors in its products nor do our products give Intel control or access to computing systems without the explicit permission of the end user.""

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Y'all can't behave.

Snapshots:

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Buttsucking nerd

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