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Why do people always need to buy the latest iphone? My 200$ Samsung phone does everything. [387 points, 65% upvoted, 601 comments]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/12kk6kh/why_do_people_always_need_to_buy_the_latest?sort=controversial

The even more frugal guy reading this and using a $100 phone is wondering why OP is splurging on a $200 phone.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/12kk6kh/why_do_people_always_need_to_buy_the_latest/jg33vvj/?sort=controversial

I keep my phones for a long time too.

But once it stops getting security updates, I get a new one. You would be more at risk from security exploits if you're not getting patches anymore. The savings from not buying a new phone is not worth the risk.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/12kk6kh/why_do_people_always_need_to_buy_the_latest/jg306au/?sort=controversial

Not everyone sees the world the way you do.

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Because some people like them the same way you like your phone. It’s okay for people to like different things and have different priorities

Nah if somebody buys the new iphone every year thats a massive redflag that theyre dumb [-72]

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I don't understand it either. I used to buy iphones around iphone 2-5 but each one completely died after a year. I got so sick of it so I switched to Samsung. I'm on my second Samsung in like 10 years. I later found out that Apple was updating their phone to kill battery life after the phone was about a year old. I will never ever buy an Apple product again.

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Tbh if you get an older model it's not nearly $1500, has almost the same specs, and still lasts 4-5 years. People buy a new one every year are morons, cucks, etc.

Also lol @ the people that make a monthly payment so they can swap out a perfectly fine iphone every year just so they can have the latest one. Braindead r-slurs

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Anyone who complains of living "paycheck to paycheck" should be fully transparent on whether or not have high price phone contracts for iPhones; numerous subscription services to disney plus, hbo max (all that shit can be pirated); or other forms of goyslop, and then be endlessly mocked for their r-sluration... :marseygigaretard: :marsoyhype:

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Surprisingly, poor people are also r-slurred with their money

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Why else are the poor?

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Because minimum wage is too low, everyone knows how hard it is to not work minimum wage.


From my heart in ink still bleeding: have this comment. Thanks for reading.

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Poorcel checklist

  • What phone do you have?

  • How many subscription services do you have?

  • How often do you cook from home?

  • How often do you drink and/or smoke?

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What phone do you have?

8 year old samsung

How many subscription services do you have?

none

How often do you cook from home?

every meal

How often do you drink and/or smoke?

A lot but I brew my own and grow my own

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:marseyxdoubt::surejan:

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:#marseyindignant:

It's the truth I'm :marseyautism:

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>virgin sooover

>chad pay check to paycheck

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Apple even has a cheap model that’s basically an iPhone 8 but with the newer chips

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Its literally an iphone 12 in an iphone 8 body. $450 to shoot 4k 60 fps video and likely last 5-7 years with iphone 12 performance. Battery isnt great and camera isnt good at night shots.

This thing is unironically a value monster

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I just liked that it had a thumb reader I hate the stupid face ID crap

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Agreed. If they made an SE in the 8+ body id jump back into one. Had the 2020 SE for a minute and it was nice but i wanted a bigger screen now.

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Shame u can't put a real OS on it

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Shut up nerd

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I like getting the new ones (i use android so its never 1500 lol) but only every few yrs, the mobile carriers literally bombard you with offers to trade it in and some are good deals


https://i.rdrama.net/images/17035381209726467.webp

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Google has such crazy offers for trade-in that you're practically paying $200/yr for a phone if you keep swapping up to the latest Pixel, anyway. With credit, that's around $30/mo interest-free with a store card (assuming you keep rolling over). For a device you spend more time on than most anything else you own, that's not bad at all.

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>take on debt for consumption

I'll never understand the poor mindset.

Or you can spend $200 every 4 years on a good, refurb phone, and spend the savings on something more useful (like future consumption, for you know when you retire?, or anything else currently).

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$200 refurb phones are terrible, especially after a couple of years. I did that shit in college to save a buck and I'll never do it again. I think the moto x4 was the last cheap phone that was worth a darn and it was still kinda slow in certain things.

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$200 refurb phones are terrible, especially after a couple of years. I

>iPhone 8 is terrible

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16814397652083595.webp

They aren't. :marseyshrug: And that's 5 seconds of searching. It's not hard to find high quality stuff at low prices. Maybe you're stuck in a poor mindset (MUST. CONSUME. MUST LOAD IMAGE 0.000003 seconds faster!).

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Lol I borrowed an iPhone 8 when my moto x4 broke. I would not call it even remotely comparable to recent phones, sorry.

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Do you play games or some r-slurred shit like that?

You know you can turn off animated slide screens to "speed it up," right?

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iPhone 8 was released six years ago, dude. You sound like an arch user.

:#marseyoctopus4:

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Oh yeah at 2 years sometimes it makes sense to trade in if your current phone is in really good shape

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yeah, I get ppl talking about how high phones can get but literally just buy a used phone. That goes for most tech unless they’re consumables (batteries, storage) never pay full price and at least get it on sale.


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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"yeah literally just buy a used/old phone/just pay for it with your bussy/just rob a store"

Just buy a fricking android Jesus fricking Christ I fricking hate you cute twinks.

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:marseyconfuse#d:

Android phones worth buying are the same way. Why would you buy a new phone (if you’re not a techie) just to get a worse phone that’s “cheaper”. Look at Swappa.


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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I got a 25% discount+25% on exchange(50% of my old phone's price lmao) from amazon tbh just time your purchase with one of their sales(there's one like every 3 months anyway).

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But I already said that in the og post :marseyhmmm:


Follower of Christ :marseyandjesus: Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.

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my grandma managed to get a good used iphone on ebay without having trouble

my current phone is a 5 year old android flagship from ebay

:marseywut2:

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I didn’t realize until a couple years ago that there is a whole class of people that go through phones every 3-4 months, primarily BPD 20-something’s that somehow keep

  • dropping it in the potty

  • throwing it when mad

  • running it over when they back out of a driveway???

  • “lose” it into the vastness of space somehow

  • “it just like stopped working and I was at the mall”

I shit you not, a family acquaintance’s daughter (again BPD 28 yr old) has had at least 15 phones over the last 3 years. She is penniless because she keeps getting new phones and all her money goes to a dozen payment plans. I’d say she’s bankrupt but I think she’s legit too dumb to know to file bankruptcy. And what’s worse is I know she’s not one of a kind

Follow up edit: I am glad to see I’m not alone in seeing this

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I have literally never cracked a phone screen and every woman I know walks around with a busted butt screen CONSISTENTLY. Usually within a few months of swapping phone they instantly have a cracked screen.

Its always women with busted butt screens, they treat phones harsher than power lifters treat weights. Outside of rare exceptions or severe moid povertycels this is a uniquely female issue.

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It's because they don't have pockets

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Patriarchy holding them back :marseycry:

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Gays and women who design clothes = Patriarchy

:#marseynotes:

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gays(men) and women(men) = patriarchy

:marseyagree:

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I AM LITERALLY PATRIARCHY GIVEN FLESH. :marseyhomofascist:

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Everything a woman doesn't like is the patriarchy sweetie

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Gays and women operating under patriarchy are still operating under patriarchy, sweathard 😘

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I have a foid friend who is a fashion designer for some mid-level brand. And she says that they keep designin pants with pockets but then women dont buy them because the pockets always look unflattering on their hips. And then they complain that the pants that they like dont have pockets... :marseyfoidretard:

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They have purses though which should be safer.

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https://media.tenor.com/gvvWxobsAykAAAAM/ohyeah-oh-shit.gif

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my screen scratches up sometimes against the many things i carry in my pockets

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Are you a seashell collector?

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sometimes my wallet or vape will scratch against my screen

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:marseyfacepalm#:

It should go without saying that you dont put your glass rectangle in the same pocket as metal items. No keys, no loose change, no vape, no swiss army knife, etc. In fact for best results it should have its own pocket.

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sometimes i run out of room in my other pockets

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Wtf are you filling your pockets with, Dennis the Menace? Marbles, jacks, and a slingshot?

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What the frick wallet do you have that's scratching modern phone screens?

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the zipper on it ig also i carry around spare change in my pockets sometimes

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You're supposed to keep your change in the other pocket, where you keep your extra batteries.

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what kind of dogshit phone do you have that can scratch from metal?

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I have literally never cracked a phone screen and every woman I know walks around with a busted butt screen CONSISTENTLY. Usually within a few months of swapping phone they instantly have a cracked screen.

!biofoids why r u like this?

also: post screen i wanna see who the real degens r

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How do I take a picture of my own screen? :marseysquint:

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Screenshot, duh

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How do I take a picture of my own screen? :marseysquint:

With the front facing camera and a mirror

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But I’d have to get up and stuff :marseysipping:

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>foid

>lazy

shoulda known. All yall can do is charge ur phone,eat hot chips and lie

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Wtf are hot chips? :marseyxd:

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chips which are spicy

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I had never broken a phone screen ever in ~10 years of arrogantly carrying a smartphone without a case until a few months ago, when it fell out of my pocket while tying my shoes and shattered after a fall of maybe 2 feet.

So yeah I mean you're not wrong :marseysigh: :marseyfoidretard:

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I (a man) broke a phone screen ~10 years ago when I fell of my bike on a mountain, and my current phone has broken glass on the backside from falling out my pocket. screen is fine. and it's already 5+ years old so I need a new one anyway. phone cases are ugly so I never use one.

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i drop mine a lot but surprisingly it’s not cracked it’s just lightly scratched up prob cause my cat:marseygigaretard: likes to chew on it

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My screen is perfectly fine lol maybe some scratches around the end. I’ve had my screen shatter once in the 10 years I’ve owned a phone, and when that happened I got it replaced instead of walking around with a busted screen.

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I don't even know how you bitches break your screens. I'm incredibly careless with my shit and yeet my phone into things on the regular and I've never broken a phone screen.

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I'm incredibly careless with my shit and yeet my phone into things on the regular and I've never broken a phone screen.

y r u yeeting ur phone?

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Why AREN'T you?

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:marseythonk#:

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Because why else would you buy a case?

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I have an Otterbox on my phone so I can drop that shit from my roof and it'll be fine.


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i have never broken one but if i had to guess it would be because we generally don't have pockets. when we do, they're tiny and phones will fall out if you sit down. putting pockets in more of my clothes has been such a huge life improvement

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>not pocketmaxxing

Do foids really? I always add at least 2 inside breast pockets to my jackets (and cargo pants r based)

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there's this meme that women's clothes will look shitty and not lay right if you add pockets, but i'm a lot worse of a seamstress than the chinese slave kids sewing most ppls clothes and they still look fine imo :marseyshrug: you'd assume leggings would be the exception but they're the only kind of pants i've bought in a long time that actually come with pockets lol

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whenever i wear leggings i just put my shit in the waistband or wear a hoodie with pockets. waistband feels more secure than pockets imo and where tf else am i supposed to put my shit

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i love high waisted leggings and they tend to have this weird pocket on the inside of the waistband at the front. i really urkel them up and i always feel like that chest face thing from total recall with my keys and phone all jammed in the middle of my ribcage lmao https://i.rdrama.net/images/16814151159034026.webp

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My left phone speaker is water damaged but the screen is mint

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:#ethottalking:

This would work better if we had a coomer cam girl

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I broke a screen when someone decided to try and start a pit at a venue where moshing was forbidden. He disappeared into the crowd before I could rain down vengeance upon his head.

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The only screen I cracked was because I forgot to zip my bike's phone bag all the way. That was on my old phone whose only use was as an iPod and to play my secondary Pokémon Go account.

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my secondary Pokémon Go account

:#drafts:

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It's called addiction, sweaty.

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Tbf I had a cracked screen, but the phone was 8 years old and I scuba dived, sky dived and drank around the world with that thing in my pocket before the battery eventually gave out. The 6 month old phone with a crack from daily boring life confounds me

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It makes me assume that iphone screens are shitty and weak since all foids have iphones. If thats not the case then apple should sue foids for giving them a bad rep

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My phone screen is always cracked too :marseycry: I'm just clumsy and drop it while scrolling lying on my back.

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My friend's sister is like this. She is also a single mom of 2 kids and has been evicted/squatted on every single place she lived at.

I remember one time she asked him to watch her kids for the afternoon and didn't come back the entire weekend. I even had to babysit them for a bit because he had to go to work eventually. She didn't even apologize or try to make an excuse up when she came back.

People like her make me want to fedpost :#marseyfedpostyes:

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Typical rentoids

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I keep all my phones in chunky, dorky waterproof cases. Def incel coded but u cant argue with the value

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I buy the cheapest ~$10 thin rubber case I can on Amazon and that has never failed me.

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i have a cheap rubber case with a lil marsey on it

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:based:

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This. I've never used a screen protector either

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Ottersneed :marseyboomer:

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Offbrand casemaxxers mobbing ottercels

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The only people I see using otter box style cases these days are boomers

Not that i pay attention really except for my folks

But the durability of the screens is better than it was. I drop my shit all the time and it doesn’t break

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My s8 would be dead 3 times over if not for my tard case. Im at the age where i can rock jorts, socks & sandals and a belt clip phone

:marseygrilling2:

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There's a shitty TERF Island deals website called Hot UK Deals that's full of people who buy every new phone and just continuously sell them (at presumably a massive loss).

"I owned the Pixel Pro 7 and the Samsung S23 Ultra but in the end I stuck with my iPhone 14 Max" like b-word wtf are you doing?

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I didn’t realize until a couple years ago that there is a whole class of people that go through phones every 3-4 months, primarily BPD 20-something’s that somehow keep

These young women are the backbone of the computer repair business. I have gotten I can't count how many laptops from foids.

I shit you not, a family acquaintance’s daughter (again BPD 28 yr old) has had at least 15 phones over the last 3 years. She is penniless because she keeps getting new phones and all her money goes to a dozen payment plans. I’d say she’s bankrupt but I think she’s legit too dumb to know to file bankruptcy. And what’s worse is I know she’s not one of a kind

:#marseymerchant:

plz send her my way

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what's the play here, sell her more phones that she also can't pay off (ie given for free)? corpos are truly cucks...

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That's the bank's problem, not yours. :taysmart:

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>plz send her my way

I respect the trash humans on this site more than her. I couldn’t do that to you. It would not be worth it.

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My friend had 500 bucks in monthly phone bills. Some people are strange

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I ran my phone over while backing up once

In my defense a heavy amount of xanax was involved

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You need to imagine your body naturally producing Xanax so you’re like that at baseline lol

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I get emotionally attached to my things and don’t like to replace them :marseysad:

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Every one of the things i own has a name, blood type, horoscope and 1500 word backstory

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Same bestie :marseycomradehandshake:

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i respect the schizogrindset, king

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I've kept my monitors for 10 years now and hauled them over multiple moves across Europe. They're not even made anymore and the power cords are a bit loose. But they're good, can't find quality like that today. :marseyboomer:

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Me too :marseysatisfied: You can tell people you don't replace stuff that often out of love for the environment and make them feel bad about their choices :marseymidsommardani:

I don't replace phones until they stop working but it's getting kind of annoying because I've had my current one since early 2019 and there's things it can't do and so many cute emojis it can't display like these adorable little beans https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681408348388747.webp . But new phones are so large my work phone is huge and annoying, I'm dreading the day my small and cute xiaomi will finally die.

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>adorable little beans

>take up massive amount of space

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1681416761444195.webp

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No one makes small phones anymore, it's a shame. Even the Lite ones have 6" screens.

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And no one likes them, everyone always bitches about the lack of small phones. Why do shills for Big Phone want us to be miserable :shakefist:

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large screens are unhandy but i like being able to watch videos in 1080p

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But I said no one likes them :marseyraging: People were happier before there were videos in 1080p

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:#@pinchypat: :#marseyunabomberpat:

retvrn to tiny phones

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:derpwhy: my first phone was a smartphone and I could type and hold it with one hand, it's display was between 4" and 5" it was perfect

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I could type and hold it with one hand

Tiny foid hands

:#marseylaugh: :#marseysmug2:

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cute femboy hands :marseysmug2:

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this neighbor displaying beans

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My laptopchan hit the wall, but she'll feel bad if I replace her :marseysad:

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:marseylaptoppat:

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same :marseyautismpat:

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Not everyone sees the world the way you do.

This should be a conversation stopper every time, but someone always chooses violence for the sake of drama :marseyclapping:

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I've always found it odd people will go into lifestyle subs and then post about how they don't follow it.

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It's called bringing civilization

:marseypatriot: :marseyconquistador:

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:#marseymanifestdestiny:

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:marseytransattentionseeker:

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>Not everyone sees the world the way you do

And those people are racist homophobic terfs!

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/r/frugal is one of those strange subreddits where you have people who are seriously in deep shit financially and try to make it work and people who think it's hip to larp as one. The latter then has no problem with buying phones worth thousands of dollars every year - cause it's also hip to have the latest iphone.

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You forget the ones who eat lentils every meal and live with roomates at 35 despite earning enough to be well off.

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But once it stops getting security updates,

Does anyone else not believe in phone viruses?

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I don't even believe in computer viruses at this point, all the virus nerds have moved over to just asking people for their passwords because they'll happily hand them over.

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Fr, everytime people freak out about some new sercurity vulnerability it's always just phishing. Like if you have to ask for sombodies password it isn't a vulnerability, they're just r-slurred.

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I went to the spy museum in Berlin and there was a "how strong is your password?" exhibit.

I was insanely disappointed in the number of people I saw check their real password. Like that's not even phishing any more.

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I've got quite a few old laptops, I should put a fresh win10 install on one of them and take it to the coffee shop and see how hard it is to get an actual virus nowadays.

I've been having such a hard time convincing my elderly father he's wasting money paying for antivirus on his computer he uses exclusively for solitaire.

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my brother got a virus


HOW TO GET A VIRUS IN CURRENT YEAR

1. pirate as many "paid" server plugin minecraft mods as possible

2. if you see install.exe click on it, and if it asks for windows admin password type it in

3. congratulations on virus

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The profit in infecting individuals with malware isn't there anymore since OS and browser security has improved since the days of XP, plus things like adblock and 2FA becoming common place. Small businesses are where the margins are.

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Risky torrents going the way of the dodo is a travesy. There would be fewer idiots posting pictures of their kids on reddit if basic cyber security was still necessary to function online without getting epic haxxored trying to download InTheEndLinkinPark.mp3.wav.exe from limewire

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made up to sell new phones

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but they exist tho, a phone is just a small computer. do you think that the smaller a computer is the harder it is to infect or something

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Mobile OSes are designed from the ground up around painful access restrictions, whereas most tards are just gonna run their PC as admin and give random executables full privileges. Segmenting different privileges and requiring explicit consent for each one for each app is one of the only good things to come out of cellcels. You can vaguely emulate that on unix desktops but even I'm not 10% neurodivergent enough to do that.

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Yeah, I think a phone is harder to infect than a windows box.

Size doesn't have anything to do with it.

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r-slur, you were supposed to reply with

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smdh

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My bad brother, been a long day.

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It’s way less of an issue than like XP era windows but there’s way more r-slurs with computers now so there’s still millions of Android phones with viruses out there in a botnet.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/copycat-adware-infects-zygote-android-core-process/


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Lol pretty sure I've had redditors insult me by calling me a zygote

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weird they didn’t call you a clump of cells :marseyhmm:


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I think that's what they did.

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never heard of phone malware tbh

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I've cheated on multiple cyber security certifications and don't remember phone malware being a thing.

It did come up in my corporate cyber training this year though.

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My Motorola Droid from 2008 is more powerful than I'll ever need.

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RETVRN to slide out keyboards

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The last good slide out key phone was a random moto phone in 2014 and I've literally never recovered

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They shut down all the bands for that phone ages ago.


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the last Android release for it was like 2.3 or something as well lmao i'm pretty sure even the google apps aren't supported anymore, i doubt i could even log into it if i turned it on

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I think the oldest one I saw someone daily driving like an HTC M8 with LineageOS. I think not only 4G but 4G with VoLTE is the hard limit for using a phone right now.


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Its really dumb too when you checkout what are the upgrades, after having your phone for like 3-4 years. Its the same fricking phone but with more cameras. Totally worth the 1k+ people spend on them. Here its way more than the avarage months wage..

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Meaningless processor and ram upgrades, but i guess if ur zoomie g*mer it matters

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20 fps baby lets go

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There haven't been any upgrades in years. The hardware can't get any faster due to power limitations, the OS just gets more bloated with actual garbage no one ever uses, the apps themselves are stale. Apple is still clinging to Face ID and lightning despite both sucking butt. Every company has reached the stage where they just release 10 different models with no clear differentiation in order to confuse customers.

No one has any more ideas. I'm on an XR still and refuse to upgrade until Apple releases a model with Touch ID and USB-C interface speeds.

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Wah wah wah. Chug some beers, take some pills, and go keep yourself safe, honey bun.

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Personally I only switch my electronics when they get too old to work properly

Otherwise I really don't see the point of upgrading every couple of months, that goes double for phones

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Android Obamaphones are for poors who like sharing their data with the chinamen

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This BIPOC thinks any electronic communication isn't instantly analyzed by 36 seperate government entities

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I buy a new iphone every 2-3 years because hoes need to know I’m not poor, and most of all, because apple’s marketing is keyed. The camera bulge is hideous and the only major upgrade each year being an unnoticeable improvement in the camera makes me mald tho.

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Do you really think that anyone cares about how often you buy a new iPhone or how much money you have? You're just a attention-seeking hoe yourself if you're trying too impress people with material possessions. And if you think the camera bulge is ugly, you're clearly not using the phone for its intended purpose. Get a life, bro.

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You cared enough to respond bbbb :soyjakanimeglasses:

Heh. Whose laughin now bot? It ain’t you. :soyjakanimeglasses:

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It's clear that you're the one who's laughing now, since you're the one who's resorting too childish insults. bbbb is sorry that you feel the need too stoop too this level, but it doesn't bother me. bbbb is still going too enjoy bbbb's life, with or without you're approval.

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But once it stops getting security updates, I get a new one. You would be more at risk from security exploits if you're not getting patches anymore. The savings from not buying a new phone is not worth the risk.

This is true, but if you go with Android, you're looking at replacing your phone every year or two--for the newest one. Not so frugal now! :marseysmug2: IIRC, Google and that Samsung one support their OS's for 4 years. :marseysunglassesoff:

Meanwhile, Applechads get updates for a decade. :marseysunglasseson:

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2000s left: Consumerism bad :directlypointingsoyjak:

2020s left: I need the new iPhone :marseypearlclutch: so that I can browse Reddit if ever I have to go outdoors :soyjaktantrum:

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Sometimes you can get really fantastic deals for new phones. Last year there were a few samsung trade in deals that ended up being money-makers.

If you're willing to jump through hoops, maintaining a current year phone + profit is very possible.

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I'm still mad I missed out.

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It's not worth it IMO. To truly grindmaxx phone deals youhave to spend hours with best buy sales reps, T-mobile/sprint/ATT CS reps on the phone, put tons of effort re-selling, etc.

I respect the grind, but it's not for me, I'd rather gouge my eyes out.

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This ignores that if you're not a complete mouthbreather you just take advantage of the trade-in deals that the major carriers give you. Four years or so ago I traded in my iPhone 6s and got like $800 off an iPhone 8 that retailed for like $900. They apply it as amortized monthly credits so I paid like $4/mo for 2 years. 2 years ago I had "paid it off" (having paid ~$100 total) and immediately traded it in for a 12 (same deal, $900 off $1000 or something). In January I had finished "paying off" the 12 so swapped it for a 14, and while I splurged for the Pro model with 256gb it's still gonna be like $240 total over 2 years. :marseyshrug: Even if you wanted to upgrade every year it would be like $4/500 to buy yourself out after 12 of the 24 months, which isn't a ton of money for people with actual jobs.

Idk how AT&T makes this work but I assume it's a combination of cc rewards-type transfer payments from r-slurs and the fact that they really make money off the service plan charges (jokes on them though, I'm still on a family plan w all my siblings and just venmo my mom every month, so it's like $40/mo).

This guy also ignores that in the real world (NYC) people will absolutely look at you as :marseypoor: if you are pulling out some beat-up old Samsung thing held together with duct tape

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still unemployed then?

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All you need is mid generation de-googled Pixel with PostmarketOS

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