Basically this 
got his talk on compile-time reflection downgraded from keynote to regular talk. Cope, seethe and dilation ensues.
For more context: a month ago, a lot of what I thought were decent sounding talks were just straight up rejected from RustConf and this caused a lot of twitter seethe. Additionally, there was a whole trademark debacle where the rust foundations tried to claim the rust logo as their intellectual property, causing a lot of pushback.
Overall, I think the larger trend is the corpo-fication of rust. Look at all the jewish chads from Amazon, Google, etc. in the leadership of the Rust foundation. Very bearish on the future of the language, especially since a lot of its semantics remain unspecified. Will rust be coopted by the tech cartel like all the web standards did and become r-slurred? !codecels discuss.
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!codecels this is why we all need to get together
and start using D.
Python is java for !zoomers
C# is from M$
Go is bloated (and no shared objects? dumb)
C is for olds
Fortran is for old nerds
C++ is for people who hate themselves
Javascript is literally
cancer 
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Python
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang
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Python's super
comfy. It's my go-to for basically all my home projects. The optional type annotations are fetch and so is pylint.
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The GIL can suck my balls. Not sure why they have threads when that exists.
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For async programming, although I agree
that part can get annoying. None of my home projects need the performance of multiple processors, though.
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so you're saying we need to use java, ok got it
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Java is very nice
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Java is my least favorite
thing I've ever worked with professionally. It was great 
for my career about 15 years ago because it was such a mindfrick for other people in my field that it became like the top bullet 
point 
on my resume for a little 
while. Everything about it is painful, except it's couple 
of strong 
points, which is that it runs on everything and isn't very hard to set up from a backend perspective. Programming 
it is just a massive pain in the butt, though.
I thought
C# was actually 
pretty 
cool, but it just never 
went anywhere.
D is like
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D is BIPOClicious; It has a garbage collector and encourages complexity. I've come to the conclusion that every programming language is too r-slurred to use, so I'm writing my own compiler rn.
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Why write
a switch 
statement, when you could wrote code then writes a switch 
statement that u never 
see and have to take extra steps to debug?
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This is a good thing
Where my C# chads at? What a comfy and practical language
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Asp and that horrific entity framework can burn in heck.
Otherwise, C# is pretty cool. You can even malloc and free if you really wanna.
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C# literally the pinnacle of programming languages
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write
things people use in D and then more people will care 
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工 山尺口丅乇 丅卄工丂 尸尺口厶尺卂从 工𠘨 刀 丅口 从口匚长 卂丂工卂𠘨丂
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If I'm going
to use a brand new language with little 
library support I'm gonna just use Rust. Sorry.
I tried D for a while, back before
Rust was a thing. It's a neat little 
language, though.
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Yeah I know the leadership is infested with more
s 
than a reddit 
moderation team but I really don't care.
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Ruby is good now that all the
left for Rust
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It’s Nim’s time to shine
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Correct on all points except that C++ is the greatest language ever created (well, second behind Brainfrick but we can't all be cool enough for that) and it's entirely possible to write it without hating yourself... In theory. Maybe.
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D is for mega boomers. Just look at Walter Bright all over orange reddit.
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The rust convention is in September instead of train
month 
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sir, a second train month has hit the calendar
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Web standards are terrible
mostly because of backward compatibility issues going 
all the way back to when the purpose of javascript 
was to animate something in your browser 
in 1995 or whatever the frick. CSS has the same issue, the original implementers were 100% r-slurred 
but also trying to accomplish a relatively small 
task, and the growth of the standard into basically the most important piece of web design was a horrifying accident, and now you can't fix dumb shit like max-width not working 
on a table 
column 
or whatever other stupid 
gotcha occurs every time you try to do literally 
anything 
with it because if they "fix" it it will break like 2000 existing websites that no longer have maintainers.
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There is a kernel of truth there. Http being text-based is so unbelievably stupid in the modern age, but I think backwards compatibility is used as a cop-out for stagnation a lot of the time. Standards neighbors do not give a frick about backwards compatibility e.g. c23 breaks shit freely. Unless you don't do something as r-slurred as perl, wagie cucks will rewrite their code when they upgrade to a new compiler in a decade.
At my dad's company, a zoomer upgraded their go compiler to 1.18 and fricked everything because some timeouts were changed or somthing. So no, compatibility in software and standards is mostly a myth and used as an excuse to twiddle thumbs.
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JS has tried to fix their shit with regard to this over the last 10 years (since they became the predominant programming
language of web designers and even gained traction on backend shit with node.js) but on the frontend their shit is all still r-slurred 
mostly because of microsoft 
still until very recently allowing people to install IE, which every big company I work for does as their default browser, so you're still stuck coding 
around IE11 which is god knows how old now. The compatibility issues led to JS becoming such a shit language even though at its core it really is fine. Think 
about everything that's happened in JS in the last 10 years and how awful it is. If you're on the frontend, you're carefully avoiding using anything 
in the language later 
than 2015, or you're a ridiculous person 
who "transpiles" your frontend code with Babel or some other fricking 
cludge, and if you're working 
on node.js, I pray for you, because that shit is a bomb waiting 
to destroy 
half the internet 
any minute now.
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Go and C were intentionally designed languages for general
programming 
and explicitly versioned, JS just kind of happened.
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The CPP standard is basically owned
by google 
since they're the chief 
maintainer of the LLVM implementation of the lang (source LLVM man on lex friedman's podcast) I don't think 
this specific incident is illustrative of anything 
tho. For better 
or worse computer 
languages and technical systems are getting more complicated 
and need more people to work on them and can only be maintained by corporations.
if you want to bring up the gcc as an alternative to LLVM or the rs compiler there's a rust fromtend for gcc being written but like with cpp it isn't getting the focus, they follow
the lead of whatever google 
or larger coroperations do.
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Not really. There was a lot of drama and Google has pretty given up on C++ standard involvement after they failed to convince the committee to break the backcompat. This is why they created Carbon, their "successor to C++".
Google is very much interested in LLVM (the language-agnostic backend) but they lost their interest in Clang (C/C++ frontend) because of the above. This why Clang is currently lagging behind Visual C++ in standard compliance.
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when was that falling
out? I'm just curious 
if that took place 
after the interview I heard 
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This paper by a Google engineer prompted the vote on ABI break, which took place in February 2020 and failed.
After losing the vote, this paper was published, which doubles down on the "frick backcompat" stance. I like this HN comment: "The non-goals section reads like an open declaration of war against anyone whose use cases for C++ differ from GOOG and NVDA".
See also this thread on reddit: "What's the deal with the slowdown in Clang dev these days?".
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has carbon gotten any use btw, even internally? Like have they started adding carbon code in chromium? If it hasn't happened by now I suspect it'll flop
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Well, its README says:
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lol GNU BIPOCs aren't malicious like google jewish chads, but the code they write is just as r-slurred. Look at true.c with a straight face or just poke around in any of glibc to see the sheer neurodivergence.
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We sort of agree, I'm just saying the GNU types don't have the manpower or resources to compare with google. The days of stallman writing
the gcc on his own are through, now they follow 
google's lead. I haven't seen any FOSS developer 
products from google 
that are malicious. The closets thing I can think 
of is go having package 
analytics but that's a stretch.
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The days of stallman writing gcc ended before the turn of the millenium.
The current gcc is based on a fork made by several companies not wanting to deal with him. He ignored Chris Lattner who took the code he wanted to contribute and ended up making LLVM.
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yeah obviously
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nah gcc tends to be more advanced than clang wrt cpp these days
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The language is already dead. Any sane person who chooses too learn rust is just dooming themselves too being eventually cancelled. It's a
language
Trans lives matter
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and nothing of value was lost
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Imagine spending 3 years of your life implementing xxd but now with a complicated DSL attached.
Is he finally gone?
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Oh darn i ran into a train
who would 
commission ppl to make her own memes/stickers/etc
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Rust is old news
We're writing in Pony now
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I remember the author boasting about getting each actor down to 0.1kb of memory. I've made some pretty big structs but that's shocking.
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People should just use gccrs.
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