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The independent thinkers of Ars Technica are still trying to make Sam Altman hate a thing

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2023/12/openai-board-reportedly-felt-manipulated-by-ceo-altman

As I previously reported (Ars recalibrates their Musk hate rays temporarily towards Sam Altman), most intelligent tech blog Ars Technica decided to do a 180 on Sam Altman the minute he got canned as OpenAI CEO. They're still trying and have decided that he's worse than Hitler.

I'm not going to read the article so let's jump into the comments:


To me it read like "A board member was publicly critical of the company and Altman moved to get them fired and succeeded." EDIT: She was not fired. I misread that. So it's more like they didn't appreciate him trying to get her fired.

And the board, who's responsible for ensuring the company was following it's guiding principles which may require critizing of Altman, felt threatened by that and took action, overplayed their hand, etc

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Think that misses the point. if the story is true they fired him because he was lying to board members about the opinions and discussions he'd had with other board members. As things go, deliberate lying about peoples statements is generally reasonable as firing offense.

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I'm on the boards of three organizations, one a non-profit. If our CEO was taking an end-run around a board member and lying to other board members about it, that is absolutely a fire-able offense. The board needs to trust the CEO completely. It sounds like Toner (the board member in question) was up front about her actions and her apology.

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Seems like yet another sociopath tech CEO the media treats as Jesus. This never ends badly.


The Board member was made a board member specifically because of her expertise on AI safety and publications on the topic. She released a paper that was more favorable to the safety prerelease procedures of a competitor (Anthropic, which was founded by a subset of employees who felt that OpenAI wasn't being safety concious enough).

This angered Altman, she apologized to the board for not considering the optics and not giving them a heads-up.

He tried to get her removed from the board by providing false information to other board members (apparently directly contradictory text messages from a claim I read elsewhere) and this convinced the board that he couldn't be trusted and thus they removed him.

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Lady ethicist out, dude who has racist and sexist controversy sections on wikipedia in. Win-win for a certain crowd, really.

:#marseyracist:

The upper echelons of society are all about being as racist and sexist as possible. Don't you see that?


Sounded like he lied to the board and tried to pit them against one another, spreading lies about the things other board members said to get vengeance on somebody. Some typical psychopath shit.

:#marseypsycho:


In the end OpenAI employees will end up with the sociopathic messiah they deserve. The fact they stuck their necks out for this, but not to demand an investigation into the salacious sexual assault allegations against him, says everything you need to know.

His deranged OnlyFans sister?


It does not shock me that a startup CEO would be a manipulative shitheel with a penchant for building a loyal personality cult through deception and sociopathic behavior . This archetype describes so many in tech leadership it's frankly frightening. I've seen it repeatedly at multiple companies. It's rarer to find an honest and trustworthy product leader than a dishonest one these days ..


Part of me wonders if, in order to get to an Iain Banks Culture-esque post-scarcity AI future, we first have to pass through a Cameron Terminator-esque phase. 🤔 Maybe it's inevitable that humans and AI have to have a conflict phase before we have a mutual-understanding-and-respect phase.

Part of me is glad I won't live that much longer to see it; part of me is sad for the same reason.

Technically, that should be an Iain _M._ Banks Culture-esque post-scarcity AI future. Iain Banks was the nom de plume he used to write non-science fiction novels.

Edit: removed rogue apostrophe

This guy probably gets stuffed into lockers at work.


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Every day my hatred for journos is reignited.


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Technically, that should be an Iain _M._ Banks Culture-esque post-scarcity AI future. Iain Banks was the nom de plume he used to write non-science fiction novels.

ACKSHUALLIE it's the other way around: Iain M. Banks is the nom-de-plume of Iain Banks. Banks had no middle name as his father was supposed to write 'Iain Menzies Banks' on the birth certificate but, in a stunning display of the Braveheart:marseybraveheart: spirit, was too drunk to remember the name he'd agreed to call his son.

Menzies is pronounced 'Mingus' btw, because Scotland.

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I fricking hate Iain Banks, I want to read about crazy alien post scarcity clown gods, not about what some English champaign socialist thinks about the working class. I want crazy bullshit darn it, series is a cocktease

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I had a distaste for Altman since the public safety overtures of OpenAI smelled like regulatory capture, but learning that he was fighting the unwashed virgins internally turned my opinion around.

I can't overstate how primitive cutting-edge AI is in any macroeconomic sense. The true test of disruptive tech is whether liability frameworks bend toward inclusion, and they haven't.

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Did you bully @gaslamper off the site?

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found the incel

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