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Do game developers skip Linux because of the low market share or because Microsoft is paying them off? /r/linux_gaming discusses

https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1guv49z/why_game_devs_do_not_support_linux_and_why_valve/

								

								

Our post starts off with OP sharing their hypothesis on why very few games are developed for GNU/Linux - not because of low market share, but because of 'backroom licensing and exclusivity deals'.

The post is relatively well received and generates some interesting discussion, but the slapfights begin when OP starts replying to every comment that disagrees with their assertion.

Some comments trimmed for brevity, click the links for the full text. I've linked a few nuggets but OP is all over the comments.


Is Game Pass the same thing as Windows exclusivity?

game pass isn't windows.

OP:

It's money from Microsoft which often implies exclusivity. [...]

Commenter:

Another Linux gaming thread where the poster has revealed how much they don't know. And how much they hate the thing they know nothing about.

OP:

Making vague and accusatory statements does not prove anything.

You're only trying to discredit my idea by insulting me. It's a last ditch effort of someone that lacks arguments of his own.


Do game developers have the facts? Or are their bosses lying to them?

Game developer here. It's not a conspiracy—it really does come down to the number of potential users. [...]

OP:

Indie game devs never get exclusivity deals because of how small their potential sales are.

And if you're working for a big game dev company as a developer then you sure as heck aren't privileged to the reasoning behind your boss's decisions.

All you get is pretenses and platitudes just like any other employee.

Another commenter jumps in and the thread eventually ends with:

You are not providing constructive criticism. Instead, you have insulted me on multiple occasions and you are now personally attacking me with your every reply.

I don't usually block people here but you've crossed a line I cannot tolerate.

I really hope you seek professional help. You are a deeply disturbed individual.


Another game developer adds their take

As a professional game dev I disagree 100%.

I've tried to ask for Linux and macOS support at some of the places I've worked at (because using a different compiler helps flush out bugs) but it is very hard to argue against the data to management AND publishers. [...]

OP:

You disagree because your boss told you something else and you believe him?

Dude...

Commenter:

On one game that we supported Windows and macOS on I looked at the telemetry data first hand on what Operating Systems people were using. macOS was a rounding error. Talking with other game devs the story is ALWAYS the same whether it is it is Linux or macOS.

The Steam Hardware Survey shows the same ~1% data.

You are in complete denial over the facts.


The book club joins the fray

TLDR big word budget, rambling confused conspiratorial nonsense

OP:

If that's a "big word budget" that you didn't read then I'm not going to ask you what was the last book you've read.

Commenter:

It's really just the ratio of words to value that's off here. The last book I read was Ocean at the End of the Lane. I recommend it in general, but I don't think you'd connect with it.


Some commenters just go for the jugular

It's absolutely low market share. It's not that deep and you're not that smart.

OP:

Insulting me does not prove your point. Quite the contrary.

and

why is this theard still up? why isnt this absolute low iq moron banned yet?

OP:

Insulting me only proves your own incompetence.


All this and more in the full comments, sorted by Q&A for your viewing pleasure. You'll have to expand to view most of OP's comments since they've been downmarseyd.


https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/linux_gaming/comments/1guv49z/why_game_devs_do_not_support_linux_and_why_valve/

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1gvppkx/do_game_developers_skip_linux_because_of_the_low/

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Jane and Joe Average aren't going to switch to Linux. There have been countless small laptops available at retail stores over the years running Linux, and each time they sell poorly and end up on clearance at 75% off.

It's because before companies like Framework and System76, everyone (even brands that sold laptops with Linux preinstalled) had atrocious Linux support. Now that someone can buy a Linux machine that just works (that's what Chromebooks are) Linux usershare has predictably increased.

Google has also made changes to make Android more like mainline Linux. Assuming the company doesn't implode within the next 15 years, I could easily see Android using the mainline kernel.

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>Chromebooks

:#pennjillette:

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NO NEIGHBOR NONONO YOU WERE SO CLOSE BUT SO FAR. THE INNOVATION OF CHROMEBOOKS WAS NOT "JUST WORKING" IT WAS GETTING THEM INTO SCHOOLS ON GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. NOT ONLY IS THAT MUCHO BEAUCOUP MONEY BUT IT ALSO FORCES MILLIONS OF KIDS TO USE THEM. THERE ARE NOW MILLIONS OF ZOOMERS THAT HAVE NEVER TOUCHED WINDOWS AND SEE IT AS THE WEIRD G*MER OS.

AND NO BOOMER, GETTING IT INTO SCHOOLS IS NO LONGER JUST THE LIBRARY AND COMPUTER LAB. EACH ZOOMER GETS HIS OWN PERSONAL ZOOMER TOP THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE ALL THEIR ASSIGNMENTS AND EXAMS ON. THIS IS WHY CHROMEBOOKS WON. THIS IS HOW YOU WIN.

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