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Do game developers skip Linux because of the low market share or because Microsoft is paying them off? /r/linux_gaming discusses

https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1guv49z/why_game_devs_do_not_support_linux_and_why_valve/

								

								

Our post starts off with OP sharing their hypothesis on why very few games are developed for GNU/Linux - not because of low market share, but because of 'backroom licensing and exclusivity deals'.

The post is relatively well received and generates some interesting discussion, but the slapfights begin when OP starts replying to every comment that disagrees with their assertion.

Some comments trimmed for brevity, click the links for the full text. I've linked a few nuggets but OP is all over the comments.


Is Game Pass the same thing as Windows exclusivity?

game pass isn't windows.

OP:

It's money from Microsoft which often implies exclusivity. [...]

Commenter:

Another Linux gaming thread where the poster has revealed how much they don't know. And how much they hate the thing they know nothing about.

OP:

Making vague and accusatory statements does not prove anything.

You're only trying to discredit my idea by insulting me. It's a last ditch effort of someone that lacks arguments of his own.


Do game developers have the facts? Or are their bosses lying to them?

Game developer here. It's not a conspiracy—it really does come down to the number of potential users. [...]

OP:

Indie game devs never get exclusivity deals because of how small their potential sales are.

And if you're working for a big game dev company as a developer then you sure as heck aren't privileged to the reasoning behind your boss's decisions.

All you get is pretenses and platitudes just like any other employee.

Another commenter jumps in and the thread eventually ends with:

You are not providing constructive criticism. Instead, you have insulted me on multiple occasions and you are now personally attacking me with your every reply.

I don't usually block people here but you've crossed a line I cannot tolerate.

I really hope you seek professional help. You are a deeply disturbed individual.


Another game developer adds their take

As a professional game dev I disagree 100%.

I've tried to ask for Linux and macOS support at some of the places I've worked at (because using a different compiler helps flush out bugs) but it is very hard to argue against the data to management AND publishers. [...]

OP:

You disagree because your boss told you something else and you believe him?

Dude...

Commenter:

On one game that we supported Windows and macOS on I looked at the telemetry data first hand on what Operating Systems people were using. macOS was a rounding error. Talking with other game devs the story is ALWAYS the same whether it is it is Linux or macOS.

The Steam Hardware Survey shows the same ~1% data.

You are in complete denial over the facts.


The book club joins the fray

TLDR big word budget, rambling confused conspiratorial nonsense

OP:

If that's a "big word budget" that you didn't read then I'm not going to ask you what was the last book you've read.

Commenter:

It's really just the ratio of words to value that's off here. The last book I read was Ocean at the End of the Lane. I recommend it in general, but I don't think you'd connect with it.


Some commenters just go for the jugular

It's absolutely low market share. It's not that deep and you're not that smart.

OP:

Insulting me does not prove your point. Quite the contrary.

and

why is this theard still up? why isnt this absolute low iq moron banned yet?

OP:

Insulting me only proves your own incompetence.


All this and more in the full comments, sorted by Q&A for your viewing pleasure. You'll have to expand to view most of OP's comments since they've been downmarseyd.


https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/linux_gaming/comments/1guv49z/why_game_devs_do_not_support_linux_and_why_valve/

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1gvppkx/do_game_developers_skip_linux_because_of_the_low/

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this is a post I made of a linux issue I had this morning

>having issues with file "master_bash.sh"

>check the lines giving me trouble by hand and they all seem to work

>create new file "test.sh" and dump all of master_bash's content into it

>works the first time

:marseyfacepalm:

I'm sure it's some weird permissions issues or something but it such an annoying issue to deal with and trouble shoot considering it's supposed to be "the year of the linux desktop"

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bash sucks but also sounds like ur doing something r-slurred tbh

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Sounds like a skill issue honestly.

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Reported by:
  • DK_KD : simpler if ur a wizard. userside nothing's easier than "do u want to run as admin" prompts

Ironic because the Linux permissions model is so much simpler than the windows one lol

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I absolutely hate how terrible scripting ACLs is under Windows

Yeah it goes a little deeper than Linux, but shit sucks so bad

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>ACLs

Slow as dogshit too. God help you if you're making changes on a laptop with a HDD.

:#marseyunresponsive: :#!marseyskeleton:

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I dunno. I'd rather deal with bash scripts on linux then batch/cmd/powershell bullshit on windows. I've got this script on winderps that sets the backup file to "current date" + time. It worked flawlessly for two months, but now it fricks up and won't complete. The syntax for the time-date command no longer works. It's frickin r-slurred.

I've dealt with powershell for years, and it's such a pain in the butt because it doesn't like outputting stuff as simple text or something like a table so I can copy-paste it as a .csv. It's some kind of "object" with "properties" that have to divined in order to then convert into something useful like text. It's infuriatingly r-slurred.

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Most file managers you can open up properties of the file and check the "Allow running this file as a program"

aka

chmod +x filename

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oh, it's also a linux version without a UI, it's got OMV installed on top of it.

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there was also some weird ownership stuff going on with it

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