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  • HailVictory1776 : Imagine this jannie saying he can't come in because he's tired. Do your job, what are you paid for?

C++ committee member fired due to antisemitic canard in title of Technical Paper ("The Undefined Behavior Question")

https://m.slashdot.org/submission/17330375

								

								

Reddit discusses

https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/s/ft8JblfE0a

But it gets jannied

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324557146029155.webp

And people conplain

https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/s/mhL0P1Jx57

edit: link to paper https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2024/p3403r0.pdf

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Y'all can't behave. Locked.

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test

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I said LOCKED :marseyraging:

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https://media.tenor.com/nnKEiOYUmS0AAAAx/peter-griffin-meg-griffin.webp

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Some people are pointing to this :marseylongpost: with an estimated reading time of 105 minutes as a potential instigator:

Some people think that formal reasoning has already been solved! In the WG21 ISO C++ October 2024 mailing, Andrew Tomazos submitted P3403, a paper titled "The Undefined Behavior Question" (which HOOBOY man we're just knocking it out of the fricking park with possible anti-semitic dog whistles today aren't we?)

The author is one "Isabella Muerte." Foid name + involved in compiler development + cluster B personality disorder = I think you know where this is going.

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Isabella Muerte

There are only 119 people with the surname "muerte" (meaning "death", https://forebears.io/surnames/muerte), which is only slightly more than "matajudios" (meaning "jew-slayer", https://forebears.io/surnames/matajudios)

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zoz

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zle

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zozzle

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>HOOBOY

This is the danger of online echo chambers. Talking like this should have been bullied out of this user in any online forum long ago.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17324977200997505.webp

Maybe the nips are right to execute you if you have Adderall.

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lmao didnt watch this shit idgaf about graming but severeal commentors on yt said she said "hail sat_n " lmao how is that now against the peepee?

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So is she from Argentina? XD

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Interesting, the guy below claims the real reason for him being expelled is being a moron. Also that he was removed by his sponsoring organization, not by the committee:

That's some heavy editorializing.

He wasn't expelled for that paper, but rather this was the last straw. And he wasn't banned from the committee, that is borderline impossible, but rather the organization he was representing told him to frick off and don't represent them anymore. If he can find different organization to represent, he can still attend (frick, wg21 cannot ban LITERAL S*X OFFENDER AND CSAM CONNOSIEUR from attending, what makes you think they can ban someone kinda annoying to work with?).

What actually happened: Tomazos has been on lot of people's shit list, because his contributions suck. If you don't have access to the mailing lists, he posts output from ChatGPT as his contributions, and when called out, defends it, arguing that ChatGPT is actually superior to human reasoning already... Anyway, this paper was another in series of sucky contributions, it is barely concealed ChatGPT output submitted to wg21 for processing.

He was told that people don't like his paper's name, and he was asked to change it. He decided that the title is too important to his ViSiOn for the chatgpt BS submitted as a paper, and that he won't change the title. This was the straw that broke the camel's back and his "sponsor" told him to frick off.

https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1gynl1v/c_standards_contributor_expelled_for_the/lyq647s/?context=8

!commenters !upmarseyrs

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>he posts output from ChatGPT as his contributions, and when called out, defends it, arguing that ChatGPT is actually superior to human reasoning

It might be superior to the average Cppcel

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Smdh, the Jews are even getting blamed for this guy's crappy AI code. Unironically antisemitism

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Jew lover

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:#chadyes:

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:#marseysurejan:

I never believe redditors. Biggest r-slurs on the planet,.

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So this was all just a random programmer lolcow that somehow failed into a cushy position and lost it because he was too much of a lolcow?

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Tomazos has been on lot of people's shit list, because his contributions suck.

I gathered as much from just a glance at his "paper"

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Also that he was removed by his sponsoring organization, not by the committee

His sponsoring organization was another committee founded by Stroustrup and Sutter, the fact that the bullshit caller tries this bullshit deflection tells us that he's full of shit himself.

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Okay but what's up with the C sphere as of late? I've been seeing links collated here and there that always link to really passive aggressive and rather snarky blogposts about how C is bad because of all the reasons we already know but blah blah blah, the standards commitee, blah, blah! It's like yeah, we all get it. C's full of undefined behaviour and has hissy fits if the target environment isn't exactly what it expects. Why do you have to whine so much about it? Like ironically at this point I'm kind of of the opinion that C is a shit language, but getting good at C/C++ means getting good at understanding what's shitty and what's not, and figuring out how to solve those shitty components.

I mean, at least that's what I think, I can't actually understand that last blog by faultlore other than "it's hard to keep backwards compatibility and update existing types to something better since all the oldhat software'll still expect the old type. Instead we should use padded structs and do some weird C struct polymorphism to ensure that there's no difference between new and old types, because they'll always be the same size in bytes." Like I feel like I'm genuinely r-slurred for not understanding this, but at the same time I'm kind of glad I'm not a snarky killjoy like these deplorables.

https://thephd.dev/to-save-c-we-must-save-abi-fixing-c-function-abi

https://thephd.dev/your-c-compiler-and-standard-library-will-not-help-you

https://thephd.dev/intmax_t-heck-c++-c

https://faultlore.com/blah/c-isnt-a-language/

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There is a psyop campaign against C because it's not owned by some big company.

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rust isn't owned by a big company? and what other systems would anyone transition to?

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Rust is to C what blue pink white stripped thigh highs are to model train sets

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No buts it's run by people who are.

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you dont think C has big companies behind it?

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Common Lisp:

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That degree finally paying off

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Like I feel like I'm genuinely r-slurred for not understanding this, but at the same time I'm kind of glad I'm not a snarky killjoy like these deplorables.

Imagine if you had typewriters for filling in forms, and 1000 people had their units physically configured to fill in a particular form, including the locations of various boxes. You want to update that form. If you keep most things in the same place -- even if it makes the page look weird -- then everyone can keep using their typewriter settings, and text will land in the right place.

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No I get that, that's what the point of padding your struct out is - everything's more or less in the same place as before and occupies the same space, but even that kind of feels like it took the blogman eons to get to from the very start.

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Unironically Rust psyops

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:marseywords: :marseywords: :marseywords:

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Did not read

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The Protocols of the Elders of Python

The 30 Million Line Kampf

Achtung is all you need

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This Time the World!

(How Rust is Changing How We View Memory Safety)

The GNUs and their Lies

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On the Rustaceans and their lies

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https://media.tenor.com/1N2SZDBND1gAAAAx/hehe.webp

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I enjoy watching open source dumpster fires as much as the next guy but this one is particularly weird if it's real.

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tl;dr he also uses ChatGPT so he deserves it

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Yeah he should use GRรตK

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  • SlaveryforIsrael : There are a number of historical "national question" that have nothing to do with Jews

Does it necessarily refer to the Holocaust? For example in Italy, the discussion around what to do with the poorer and less developed southern regions after the 1861 unification was also called the "Questione Meridionale"(Southern Question)

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Once the enemy that defined the era we lived in uses a phrase, its linked to him forever.

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basically don't ask questions, avoid the word "question" entirely

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das right, keep in line goyem !nooticers

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In response to requests to change the title, Mr. Tomazos declined, stating that "We cannot allow such an important word as 'question' to become a form of hate speech." He argued that the term was used in its plain, technical sense and had no connection to the historical context cited by critics.

Following this decision, Mr. Tomazos was expelled from the Standard C++ Foundation, and his membership in the ISO WG21 C++ Standards Committee was revoked.

Who runs that foundation? :marseyemojirofl:

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The original reddit post is by the guy who got fired btw, shame he didn't reply to the comments

Also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42226250

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What actually happened: Tomazos has been on lot of people's shit list, because his contributions suck. If you don't have access to the mailing lists, he posts output from ChatGPT as his contributions, and when called out, defends it, arguing that ChatGPT is actually superior to human reasoning already... Anyway, this paper was another in series of sucky contributions, it is barely concealed ChatGPT output submitted to wg21 for processing.

He was told that people don't like his paper's name, and he was asked to change it. He decided that the title is too important to his ViSiOn for the chatgpt BS submitted as a paper, and that he won't change the title. This was the straw that broke the camel's back and his "sponsor" told him to frick off.

So basically they didn't like him and fabricated an excuse to get rid of him? As if that's any better?

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string shutItDown(bool goyimknow) {

return goyimknow ? "shut it down!" : "don't shut it down quite yet...";

}

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What the heckโ€”I thought we reached peak woke already.

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>woke

You don't even realize vho your enemy is BIPOC

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Is it :carptransmermaid: ?


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:marseyagree:

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Darn, might as well buy rainbow socks and start Rusting if WG21 has gone full woke.

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The earnest hunt for anti-semites in the 21st century is going to lead to the IT industry having to choose between existing or having anti-semites at this rate.

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A proper civil war, considering all the :!marseytrain:s seem to support Palestine.

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I STAND WITH ISRAEL AND THE CHOSEN PEOPLE https://media.tenor.com/mSDUbCrHiiAAAAAx/bibi-benjamin.webp FRICKK TERRORIST CHUDS

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But it gets jannied

i really have no pity for jannies. they literally just detract value from discussion.

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Hang on I thought the woke brigade hated Jews now

Or do they flip flop on that daily?

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Please hold, the snake is eating itself and will answer your question when finished.

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