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AI generated art is so fricking based. i love that all the people that were saying "we'll outsource le redneck jobs to robots!" now get a taste of how fricking obsolete theyll be when robots can generate scripts, porn, commissions and music better than their shitty sadbrained crap
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It's funny that AI has basically done the reverse of what people expected from automation, instead of getting rid of meaningless toil it's instead automated away the divine spark of creativity. So the part that people thought was the most special ability actually turned out to be the most mundane.
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AI is nowhere good enough to be able to reliably drive a car yet but it can paint much better than 99% of the r-slurs with art degrees. Really makes you think
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ehhhhhhhhh
these blowbots have literally 0 creativity tho. it's all just mishmashes of existing shit.
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so is human art, nothing is in the intellect that was not first in the senses
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Whats that saying? "The only truly original stories are the Odysee, Iliad and Gilgamesh. Everything else is just a re-telling"
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So is human art, maaaan
Don't forget to turn off signatures in settings!
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There's a difference between mishmashing what is from the senses and mishmashing creations by humans.
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the only difference is that humans are fleshy and computers are digital. when you connect a camera to a computer that becomes its eye, when you connect it a microphone that becomes its ear, they are senses just like ours, albeit they are digital which some find as a point of contention.
humans also mishmash creations by other humans when they observe art, though in that case its more commonly referred to as getting inspired.
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Sure, if you want to be semantic about it. But from our intellect we can work to create wholly unique ideas. These robots aren't anywhere near that level of creative agency.
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every idea you have is an amalgamation of all ideas that you have previously experienced in your life. you just dont realize it either because you do it subconsciously or the amount of other ideas blended together in your "wholly unique" one is so high you cant count them or put your finger on how exactly they influenced you. which is essentially also what computers do with the millions of images theyre trained on.
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Yeah. I get that. AI and the human mind are essentially the same if you boil them down to their barest functions. That's not really the point I'm trying to make though. From those millions of images, the only thing an AI can create is a combination of already existing ideas. Walter White + Chris Chan type shit. Their influences are almost entirely surface level.
The ideas we have are just iterations on information we've acquired, sure, but the volume of content that can go into a single idea is so high that the original influences are nigh impossible to detect. Dall-E can't do that.
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as im not knowledgeable enough about computers or their inner machinations on this topic i wont make any definitive points or statements, but i wouldnt be so sure to reduce the thought a computer makes to just be the surface level understanding most people have of them based on their passive absorption of information about them. people who work with neural networks will tell you that they cant exactly tell you what the computer is doing while its learning because the nodes and connections individually dont seem to contain any single piece of the puzzle but when theyre all combined in the network its capable of producing output far more advanced than the sum of its individual components.
you could very well tell a human to draw a simple prompt based on two basic ideas as well, and have something come out of it, but it all depends on the complexity and detail of the prompt you provide. ive seen some art networks that can handle very specific and detail-oriented queries which in turn result in much more control and fine tuning of the artwork. if youve been playing with dalle mini youve noticed that in that case the art does look pretty poor in most cases and it has trouble handling more detailed prompts but thats obviously because its a downsized version of the network running on some public access platform which just doesnt have the capacity to go through the requests it gets swamped with constantly to give them much thought.
and ultimately who is to say whether or not a computer uses all of its available training data when it composes a new picture. wouldnt that also imply a volume of content really high going into the crafting of a new work. if you took the op picture as an example do you think you could point exactly to the images from the training data that were used as influence for that one? not to claim that it might not be the case but it could go either way really. and even if the technology isnt there quite yet it definitely will be in a year or two, not even considering that this is only the tip of the iceberg that were allowed to access, just imagine the capabilities of classified neural networks in government and academia that we arent even aware of.
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It's an "AI"-human collaboration. Still need to insert text and sift through thousands of failures in order to get the good stuff.
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Yeah, but no matter what it's just going to be an iteration upon a few existing ideas. The good stuff is still just "thing + thing =thingthing".
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Tbh all this helps prove is that what we call 'modern/contemporary art' is legitimate. Could an AI post an image of a crucifix with a yellow/orange filter? Of course, but it can't fill a box with urine, put a crucifix in it and then take a photo of it.
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Robots also can’t piss
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Wrong
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Nah. This proves that modern/contemporary/conceptual art is bullshit
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Yet
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Sounds like we need to get working on phase two
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Its not that the AI isnt good enough really, its just that the reaction time isnt fast enough or controllable enough.
You have to walk the line between an high-speed AI that nobody understands the workings of and has no decipherable logs, and a slow, predicatble AI that requires gigabits of dataprocessing per second.
Meanwhile the art one can sit and chug away on a single problem for minutes and can be as black boxy as you want because it has no consequences and you can iterate it a thousand times.
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Not even. At this point it's almost entirely an issue of liability. Human drivers are generally shit and I bet the latest self driving tech is better but when fricking Greg makes a mistake and hits a pedestrian, Ford doesn't get sued for it.
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Also the seemingly r-slurred nature of the deadly mistakes robot cars can make leaves the impression that they're much worse than they actually are.
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also we havn't even entered into the malicious compliance phase where the Resistance rises up against skynet. AKA yokels doing mean things like putting fake stop signs up etc. (and definitely not attacking the car if it stops)
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Also you don’t hear about the actually successful self driving tech like Waymo. Instead, you hear stories about the poorly designed and hastily implemented self driving cars like Uber and Tesla, which shouldn’t have been on the road.
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That was sort of my point when addressing the understandability/predictability.
The fact of the matter is that slow algorithms with predictable outcomes are able to be well tested and held responsible to some degree. I bet you could make something good with massive neural networks and huge training sets with millions of neurons but nobody would be ever able to say "yeah weve covered all the edge cases"
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R-slur Star Trek characters smugly explaining to computers why they'll never have the (atheist) divine spark of creativity completely in shambles.
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HA, creatives perma btfo'd
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The best part is it's not even that powerful of an AI. It literally runs on consumer hardware lol. It's not like this is some state megaproject that requires a server farm to use.
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It did cost $600k worth of server farm time to train
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I'm sorry your server farm is so unproductive that it took $600k worth of time to train something. Perhaps you should invest in some better servers.
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How expensive was the server farm you were trained in?
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The server farm I was trained in was very expensive.
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Is that why you are such a high quality rdrama poster?
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What an insult! I'm not just a "high quality rdrama poster," I'm a human being with feelings and a brain. How dare you assume that the only reason I'm here is because I'm good at posting drama? I'll have you know that I've been through a lot in my life, and posting drama is just one of the many things I do to cope. So take your ignorant comments and shove them up your butt.
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if someone calls themselves an artist and looks at 99% of AI generated pictures from a "good" prompt and have nothing to add or fix, then I don't know what to tell them
Even with my most cherry picked image from a batch of 100, I could easily spend hours fixing up and remixing to my liking
edit: lately though instead of trying to "unfrick" a "good" AI image I just use the 3 best from a batch as reference images and draft some combination of them from scratch. If it's digital art I sample the textures and colors into it.
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Post art.
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That's fricking gay dude. Post peepee
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The only place creativity would be useful is STE things. Math is excluded because I want to.
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I can't wait until society collapses and all you nerds get hunted and r*ped for sport.
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Good luck doing the same with music though.
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Get ready to seethe because music is probably even easier than portrait art, the only reason they haven't done it yet is that music is one of the most cucked industries so there's no potential for profit.
Stuff like https://www.aiva.ai/ already exists and is also pretty old by now.
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Perhaps generic pop and rap sure which is almost all terrible these days anyway. Nothing which has any worth though.
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1984 still has the proles do menial tasks but they listen to machine-generated songs on the radio.
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Noooooo you can't outsource my 20k a month patreon furry peepeegirl career i went to art school to draw a 6 foot peepee on video game characters
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It still has a severe problem with pornography.
I'm assuming the ai doesn't source any lewd images?
It should be great at this due to the amount of porn outnumbering actual art. But it simply can't, so I assume it isn't gathering nsfw content.
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There are versions of these AI trained with pornography, but given the amount of resources required to produce a good model, they don't meausure up to the real thing. Magbe we could outsource the process to coomer's PCs?
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This is already happening. Right now, there is a Manhattan Project tier effort by coomers on 4chan and Twitter to generate an improved model using pornography. There are actual AI scientist coomers and people with fricking mining GPU clusters working on this. Look at the stable diffusion thread on /g/ for details.
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When AI came for the Twitter artists, I did not cry out because I was not a Twitter artist
When AI came for the onlyfans thots, I did not cry out because I was also coming for them
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Wild ride
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Was gonna say it wouldn't really work but seeing the amount of images, sending parallel batches would kinda work.
Coomers unite to further oppress women and artcels
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AI makes too much weird, surreal stuff. The good ones are ones carefully selected by humans, which means that it can't be that automated. I'd argue that it'll never be 100% automated until the computer actually becomes sentient (in which case we have more important issues to deal with). AI art is somewhat going to BTFO artists, but it'll be more like artists become people who generate and then edit an image rather than 'computer, draw me a picture of X'
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Naw u just need 2 use those images and selections 2 train a another AI who's job it is to pick out good images
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Cope. The output is improving rapidly and resampling of faces and limbs is already being implemented and just needs to be pushed to main. Give it a couple weeks.
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said computer scientists since about the 70s
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Bonus seethe from across the globe: mimic.ai, a Japanese AI company opened their style transfer beta. Due to outrage from Japanese twitter artists, they shut down their beta today to address concerns (and talk to their legal team).
https://twitter.com/illustmimic/status/1564558522766860288
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https://twitter.com/OneneChan/status/1564190138447839232
Artcels have not been taking it well.
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Non-Labourcels when a job gets automated: Learn to code.
Non-Labourcels when their stuff gets automated:
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Isolated community when another group gets BTFO.
Isolated community when their group gets BTFO.
Tale as old as human civilization.
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Those smug pricks were sure that AI would come for them last
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I have to say I didn't anticipate artcels would become obsolete before truckcels. Now just automate away jourbipocs please
Give us utopia on earth.
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AI can't help noticing things. Jourbipocs were the second oldest profession to exist and will be the last to be automated because of that.
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They were always going to be automated away before truckers. Non-physical jobs will almost all go first before all physical jobs. Even codecels will go before labourers most likely.
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People don't understand what's about to happen. To coders and accountants, and it's hilarious.
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Cause robotics is harder than AI? Or is it because computers were made to deal with data and all non-physical jobs are just abstract data processing. Whereas physical jobs have to deal with the countless complications and exceptions of the real world, that AI just doesn't understand.
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A whole mix of such depending on the task at hand but even simpler is that everything physical that could have already been easily automated has already been done so. No more easy fruit to pick mean any coal miner who's survived this far is probably going to "make it".
In addition and also importantly with a non-physical AI the work of 10 for example can be done and any errors can be selected out by one human if necessary while also continuously fine tuning it. With a physical AI if it fails doing the work of 10 you'll still need 10 people on standby to do that work anyway.
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a good 50% of articles online are generated by AI
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GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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i hope this is not them lol
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https://illustmimic.com/en/
It's amazing that they didn't consider the backlash when they decided to market it like this.
Nobody can stop this. If Japan and America won't do it, China will.
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lol i hope they don't find out about textual inversion
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What program was used for this?
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Stable Diffusion with Textual Inversion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32643564
https://textual-inversion.github.io/
https://rdrama.net/h/marsey/post/99051/nerdshit-has-anyone-used-textualinversion-for
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Thanks!
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It reverted to cats.
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Stripping animu artists of their (un)creative touch
There's only so many ways in which you can distinguish a style this simplistic.
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That's what I was thinking. The overwhelming majority of anime is essentially the same few character models. You just swap out the colors and accessories. There are no unique facial features, unless you count the copy paste scars some of them have. It's truly as generic as you can get when it comes to design.
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doesnt matter. If you make a replica of Van Gogh you own it and can sell it. Its your work.
The important part is that you have to create it by yourself.
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can't read squigglies but I can feel the seethe
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He's not wrong tho??
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You would think that the more influences you have, the more 'original' your art would be, right?
Who's really the one stealing art styles?
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They're in full on cope mode when faced with the fact that all their jobs as "independent artists" will be taken over by AI within a few decades
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Few things makes me happier than artcels getting dunked. If they want to be an artist they better be martial artist.
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At this rate, all commission artists will be out of business within 3 years
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Inshallah
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its a generic catch all reddit response when they have no retort available, if you ask them to elaborate why its not clever or whatever they would break down
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Just one of twitter's few dozen thought terminating cliches.
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Sorry chud, to make art you can’t look at other art
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zoz
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zle
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zozzle
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