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Todays video of new destroyed m777
It’s brutal that the thing destroyed more than 30% of m777a2 than burgers ever produced
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More like a 1 sided slaughter in this case
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Do you remember how last they were hyping m777 calling it a ultra game changer and for months nafo homos were acting like there is no way Russia can destroy it or capture and when Russia showed a captured intact m777 they forgot that this weapon existed and now trying to cope with German one that yet to be send to the front.
Also interesting how lancet was able to wipe out a t84 and Ukraine had only 6 of those
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Was it people here saying that? Who was hyping up standard tube artillery as a wonderweapon? I want to laugh at them
Russia's traditionally had an acknowledged/perceived firepower advantage in rocket and tube artillery going back to the early Cold War. I'll always be a NATOid because I love my country, but online NAFO type r-slurs are goofy.
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Yes here also, but I mostly remember pizzashill who was telling how better those things are than Russian artillery and one such thing is worth more than 10 Russian artillery and that Russia have nothing in comparison to its excalipoor and if Russian have something, they won’t be able to build it because of chips shortage. (That chop shortage I never understood because military shit uses out of date chips and Russia can produce Intel i9 processors lvl even though a bit bigger but size it’s not such a big deal for military shit)
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Russia lacks machine cowtools and a bunch of other stuff needed to maintain production of advanced weapons.
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Is lancet advanced or that tos system ? They ramped those thing system and even modernized it. Tos had range of 4km and now it’s 12km
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The lancet is dogshit lol.
Big scandal rn because they're so weak most hits are only causing minor damage.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/12/01/russian-loitering-munition-racks-up-kills-but-shows-limitations/
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Big scandal rn: gives a link from 1st December…
To frick artillery it’s enough to give light damage to the barrel and something like this https://x.com/avanpost2/status/1643333710211608583?s=46&t=rp86Br4jFL5QpcMU6p6szw if you try to shoot it
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Neighbor theres a video in that article showing the aftermath.
They had to change a wheel.
Theres more too, I'll find it later.
Basically russian troops were complaining about most hits doing very minor damage.
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arti is way more relevant than people thought, the war has shown this.
There was talk even back in 2013 or so about how the US needs to look into greatly improving tube arti capability because in modern wars it might end up being pretty critcal.
Either way this is a stupid post - tube arti accounts for the vast majority of death and destruction in this war, as in like 90% of it.
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I agree with everything you just said, and nothing in my post contradicts it.
I wasn't disputing the utility of tube artillery. I was laughing specifically about people thinking the m777 and its associated shells were a wonderweapon and a game changer. Russian guns like the 2A65 perform at effectively the same level gun for gun as the M777.
Tube artillery needs numbers, not just tech wizardry to be effective, and the ~90 m777s shipped to Ukraine weren't going to change the overall ground reality that much. The Excalibur shell is a great tool, but dumb shells are what's coming out the tube most of the time.
I think a lot of the NAFO types overemphasize the importance of the real tech advantage the US/NATO have and don't consider how important numbers and industrial production are in a conventional conflict.
You might find this interesting:
https://www.fieldartillery.org/news/closing-the-fires-gap-crop-a-baltic-fires-proposal
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Ya idk it won't really turn the tides, but it's enough to inflict pretty serious damage on an enemy without the ability to replace higher end equipment.
Same reason I got in an argue with whats his name over HIMARs - he believed it wouldn't be a big deal and Russia could totes deal with it, except they couldn't, and anyone that follows Russian military spheres knows why they couldn't - Russian command structures are way too immobile abd centralized, which makes guided arti seriously effective.
Ukraine was sniping Russian generals left and right and bringing down their entire logistics chain with like 20 HIMARs.
Russian mil bloggers were terrified of guided rocket arti before the war even started.
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