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The holodomar happened megathread

Eurocucks seethe

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Argentinia remains Naziland

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My taters bring all the micks to they yard, but not going to feed you going to let you starve

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Srdines

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Slovenia tells the Russian people to go to heck

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The deprogram is a stupid subredditd full pf stupid people

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French do the right thing for once

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/13ktoft/french_senate_passes_recognition_of_holodomor_as/?sort=controversial

The deprogram embraces antisemitism

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Uk is on the side of good for once

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Russia loses the propaganda war

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/13ucpxx/russia_slams_french_parliament_for_calling/?sort=controversial

Communists belong in heck

https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/13950fg/excellent_thread_on_rbadhistory_that_debunks/?sort=controversial

Learn about the bengal famine and how we shouldn’t let subhumans who take bribes live

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Rock and Morty communist fans

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Nintendo fans don’t seem to realize they’ll be the first against the wall when communists take over

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Hobbydrama sucks

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Eastern europeans hate the Soviet trash

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/13xpjlv/for_international_childrens_day_we_decided_to/?sort=controversial

Truth hurts the communist

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Soviet propaganda enjoyers cope

https://old.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/13vzxue/long_live_the_great_soviet_friendship_poster/?sort=controversial

Fricking communist scum proud of being communist scum

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Commies are liars

https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/13tjkrs/soviet_union_had_more_slaves_than_all_western/?sort=controversial

Socialists in Berlin are like Nazis: the city is infested with them.

https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/13wuew6/berlin_wall_and_defectors/?sort=controversial

Soviets talk about breaking chains.

https://old.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/13gg60w/breaking_chainsthats_an_echo_of_our_revolution/?sort=controversial

Free speech in the Soviet union

https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/13sm2bf/rant_what_capitalism_has_done_to_historical/?sort=controversial

Anti-imperialists

https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/13llwbv/the_antiimperialist/

Anti-semetic communist

https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/13jk9rw/babe_wake_up_new_antisemitism_just_dropped/?sort=controversial

This is a ballet and concert hall

https://old.reddit.com/r/ArchitecturePorn/comments/137i4rj/chuvash_state_opera_and_ballet_theater_soviet/?sort=controversial

Berlin tells Russians to go to heck

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/13c7cwf/russian_symbols_will_not_be_allowed_at/?sort=controversial

The old Eastern European gang hate the Russians

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1390u4i/moldovan_president_were_only_safe_thanks_to/?sort=controversial

Poles also tell Russians to go to

Heck

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/13cjdew/the_mausoleum_of_soviet_soldiers_cemetery_in/?sort=controversial

Austin hero fights communism

https://old.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/136yyju/whoever_planted_soviet_russian_flags_on_the/?sort=controversial

Open season on Soviet monuments

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1370usp/ukraine_passes_bill_removing_protected_status_of/?sort=controversial

/R/conspiracy nazi simps

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/13c83mv/was_the_soviet_union_really_better_than_the_nazis/?sort=controversial

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I'm personally sick of these anti-communists trying to steal Stalin's clout and say that Holodomor was not intentional. It was and it was keyed as frick.

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Keyed? Keyed on what?

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On Ukrainian bussies.

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the holodomar either did or didnt happen based on who im trying to piss off

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Rule says if country population is above 10 millions no genocide.

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could it happen again?

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both HOLO's should happen again

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Yikes, why do you want to murder TIME's Person of the Year for 2022 twice? :marseyzelensky:

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I meant the holo-caust and the holo-domor

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Bigger story here is that the potatoe disease was actually /r/latestagecapitalism in disguise.

Basically, bad thing happen = the russians/capitalism.

Also, whenever I hear Holodomor I just think of Hodor

https://media.giphy.com/media/XT93ON803qRlS/giphy.webp

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Also, whenever I hear Holodomor I just think of Hodor

Aww thanks bby

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>I'm honestly surprised that the US recognized this Holocaust, and it was W that made it official. They still won't acknowledge the genocide of slavery or manifest destiny.

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Genocide is when you grow the population from 1MM to 4MM

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Also not trying to defend the trial of tears or anything, but everyone wants to ignore that it was more often than not the injuns that started the conflicts with the white settlers. Or how the "traded beads" for land thing is BS because they were nomadic and didn't have the same concept of land ownership, so they were basically the ones ripping the Euros off.

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Not a great take here, Indians ripping off whiteys doesn't have modern effects, whiteys ripping off injuns certainly does.

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:#usarentfree:

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even if you're a cynical redditor why wouldn't the usa dunk on nonexistent dissolved states like the soviet union

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:#marseyeyeroll2:

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The stupid fricks got the wrong country.

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dead slavs are not a crime

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It happened but it wasnt targetted and on purpose, it was just a normal famine

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This is a reasonable take held by some well-regarded historians. In Germany it's also a crime to say it out loud :marseyeyeroll2:

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The problem was how it was handled. Instead of feeding starving ukrainians and to a degree Russians, mister mustache (Slav) continued to sell it to the west.

Can you link to the well regarded historians?

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Idk here are some dudes for a start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor_genocide_question#Famine_not_as_a_genocide

In Germany you have Jörg Ganzenmüller who doesn't consider the holodomor a genocide. It shouldn't be a crime :marseydisagree:

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Danke, I read through some articles and it seems that the idea was heavily politiced. I mean we know, but the idea is that you are NOT peneliced to discuss if it's a gonicde or not, but rather when you deny it to paint Ukraine in a bad light to justify the war.

My stance is that yes. Germany can officially recognize a genocide but the discussion on its own shouldn't be peneliced in any kind or form evenif you're a zigger. We have to see how the courts will rule when it's infringed.

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Complete lies, there was more than soviet starvation involved.

Just like Nazis with their pretending and minimising, you lot of 19th century rejects

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Caused by the Soviets stealing all the food.

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Caused by the Kulaks, and many of the Seredniaks (temporarily embarrassed Kulaks), being a bunch of shitters and burning down their crops and killing livestock at a time of horrible weather and collectivization. Hohols shot themselves in the foot for trying to resist collectivization. Stalin unironically did nothing wrong. In fact, he should've persecuted the Kulak class, and aspirants, harder. :chadstalin:

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So why are you still alive then?

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Huh? :marseyconfused:

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I mean you are kulak personified

Tell me how tasty is a peepee of a dead mass murderer dictator?

Because you are slurping on it quite a lot

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Take your meds.

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Frick off westoid tankie trash

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That's horseshit, the actual Kulaks were all purged in the 20's during the revolution. The land had been redistributed to the serfs afterwards, and those serfs had owned land for less than a decade before being scapegoated as kulaks for miniscule wealth differences and sometimes using hired labor (while in compliance with strict soviet labor regulations).

Marxist ideology is based on conflict theory and they understand everything as a conflict between the oppressor and the oppressed. Principled Marxists cannot rationalize problems existing without having an oppressor to struggle against. So even in a situation when they gained full control of society and were logically the oppressor, the Soviets had to have someone to label as the bourgeoisie so they could see themselves as the oppressed.

What happened is party officials would take massive amounts of the food for collectivization and in part of Ukraine, they never redistributed ANY of it. The food was sold to foreign countries to pay for industrialization, this was well documented and the amount they took was raised during the Holdomor. So when farmers saw G-men with guns coming to steal all their food they would try to hide it so their families wouldn't starve to death. When hiding didn't work, they would burn the food rather than see it all taken away.

Starving peasants who were tired of being taken advantage of are who commies scapegoat for the famine.

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>the actual Kulaks were all purged in the 20's during the revolution. The land had been redistributed to the serfs afterwards, and those serfs had owned land for less than a decade before being scapegoated as kulaks for miniscule wealth differences and sometimes using hired labor (while in compliance with strict soviet labor regulations).

This is not true. Dekulakization did start in the late 10s but it was kicked into overdrive after the first five-year plan.

>The food was sold to foreign countries to pay for industrialization, this was well documented and the amount they took was raised during the Holdomor.

This is the only part that is factual in your comment. The rest is just nonsense and Kulak apologia. Stalin was undeniably right in exterminating this parasite class.

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You really are r-slurred

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Lmao you just went on a downmarsey spree. Seethe

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I would do worse to you personally if I could

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The Soviet Union imploded and communism failed. Everything Stalin did was in vain.

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You can thank Khrushchev and Gorbachev's traitorous asses for that. Also, Communism hasn't failed because it hasn't even been achieved, yet. The specter is still alive, there might still be hope for humanity.

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The specter is still alive, there might still be hope for humanity.

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It'll probably go nowhere, in all honesty.

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I'm a big fan of Stalin because the man was absolutely brilliant (and also he slapped Hitler down like a b-word), but that doesn't mean he was a nice person. If the Holodomor happened, it wasn't an accident. Stalin didn't do "accidents": almost everything was planned, which is exactly why he was so successful

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I heard Stalin personally ate all of the food and starved the poor ukranians

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Tankies go to heck.

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Why?

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Because the devil is red.

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I'm a straight guy who used to be friends with people like this. I know exactly what you're talking about. They killed my self-esteem for months. Cutting them out was one of the best desicions I've ever made.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13q2n31/slovenian_parliament_recognises_holodomor_as/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/13pgwki/those_of_us_who_havent_gotten_banned_on_the/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/13ktoft/french_senate_passes_recognition_of_holodomor_as/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/13vvvfs/new_way_of_determining_historical_truth_just/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/13rr723/uk_parliament_recognised_holodomor_as_genocide_of/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/13ucpxx/russia_slams_french_parliament_for_calling/?sort=controversial:

https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/13950fg/excellent_thread_on_rbadhistory_that_debunks/?sort=controversial:

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go off king

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