Daddy has some unique ideas about how to end the ukro-rusko conflict in a way that leaves neither country happy 
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1854888415164072428
🚨TRUMP’S PLAN: EUROPEAN TROOPS TO ENFORCE BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE
— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) November 8, 2024
Trump reportedly plans an 800-mile demilitarized zone between Russia and Ukraine, with British and European troops patrolling the area. Under the proposal, Russia would retain its territorial… pic.twitter.com/irWY0tPakw
Ukraine: loses territories, can't enter NATO, but still gets protected by NATO
Russia: keeps Ukraine as a buffer state, keeps the conquered territories, but has to deal with even more NATO at it's borders
Tbf it's not the worse solution he could come up with 
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God I love this man's ability to completely ignore everybody's wants an needs
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Europe will also have to finance the whole buffer zone thing with it's own people, tech and money, so we lose too. But at least this proves he doesn't want to give up on NATO, so again it could be worse
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Y'all couldn't behave and now daddy's home.
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not everybody. this plan would be pretty ok for america.
for all my complaints about him, he's always been an american nationalist
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Cant wait to see his new Israel/Palestine plan
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Statehood, move the capital to Jerusalem
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It is so fricking over for zelenski, I'll be shocked if no one tries to
over this given how many lives he threw away for literally nothing
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You r-slurs keep forgetting what the war was originally about. The Russians weren't trying to take over some border areas. They were going for Kiev and the entire country. You can hardly say the Russians have won and Ukrainian resistance was pointless.
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Oh I know they came for it all, and Ukr has done well in halting their progress, but lets pretend DDR doesnt force anything here at all and keeps away from the conflict. How does it play out and end in your mind other than:
As soon as it was clear that you were alone in this fight (almost the very beginning of the war) the only proper thing to do was to move to quick end and go through diplomacy. Ukr is still not being let into NATO or EU and this was a major concern for russia even starting the war. This could have literally ended through diplomacy years ago without major loss of life and territory, but only if Ukr agreed to take the L up front, and the reality of this is that compared to what you could have gained with diplomacy Ukr threw it all away for nothing, especially as it seems DDR will force them to accept the L they should have negotiated weeks out rather than years out.
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Braindead take but
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Slavs have more pride and bloodthirst than sense. Willing to bet that he won't accept this deal either, even if it's probably the best one he'll get
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He will have to accept it, because if DDR tells him to accept it or lose funding he will lose the entire war. No more tanks, no more guns, no more rifles, and dwindling numbers of soldiers... he cannot and will not make it. The war of attrition will collapse and at that point russia just has to walk their way to victory.
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Most of all, no more skimming off the top.
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More like the top, half, and bottom
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I agree with you, but have you ever met a slav?
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Ukraine funding can absolutely get veto proof votes in both houses
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It's either deal with Trump or fricking lose lol
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You're looking at this through the lens of someone who might give a frick if all your citizens die and your country is destroyed.
This is not the Slav way. It's all about personal interest.
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I know you guys are r-slurs but what exactly is the plan you want. It's currently a stalemate costing us billions and slavs that would otherwise be making us some terrible HoMM rip off for us.
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The purpose is to make Russia suffer and weaken BRICS to further the interests of the western bourgeoisie imperialist empire. This is a good thing because it lets us force 4 year old Chinese kids to work 80 hour weeks for pennies in factories without AC or safety standards in order to make cheap plastic shit for us.
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Good thing America has only accomplished to do the exact opposite so far then
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More dead slavs
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Exactly. Trading old equipment for dead slavs was the deal of the century.
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!coomers this war has crippled the visual novel market. Uks and Russians were the bread and butter of that entire industry
Post the games you were saddest to see die below
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Mine is witch hunter trainer. It was a fun story with good art and good pacing
Plus tomboy enf.
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Visual novels peaked with Full Metal Daemon Muramasa, it's been a dead industry forever.
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kill every single russian in existence. Thats the only solution I'll accept
!friendsofkong
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thank you real recon. real. thank you. thank you real regonini. thank you real recognizes real!
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I want everyone to admit that Patton was right and that we should have genocided Russia in 1945 while they were weak and MacArthur was right and we should have nuked the gooks.
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cyborg anime girl Stalin II
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I mean. It's honestly not the worst idea tbh. Reading it's more a Pompeo plan than a Trump plan.
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Yeah, he actually tried to find a sensible solution instead of just abandoning Ukraine
Selling those NATO troops at Russia's border to Putin will be pretty hard tho
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there's basically no chance putin goes for it, it undercuts his previous rhetoric about being worried about nato encroachment, even if he doesn't actually believe that he's gotta sell it to his citizens
but that might be the point, if putin rejects a reasonable-sounding deal trump can continue feeding munitions to ukraine and respond to complaints with "look, what do you want me to do? I had a reasonable proposal and putin rejected it, it's on him"
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It's literally in his darned book. Go in, throw a hand grenade (a completely unreasonable offer) and that will immediately get people discussing what they ACTUALLY want instead of kitty-footing around
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He's basically doing the Nixon madman thing. Except people actually believe it.
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today i learned, that's pretty awesome
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Russian's will believe what they're told to believe. That isn't changing anytime soon. The only question is how badly is Putin looking for an out.
Russia just had the 3 best months of territorial gains since August of '22. In that time, they gained 995.57 square km, or less than a third of the total size of Rhode Island. They may not run out of men, but their military stockpiles are drained and their economy is a mess. It'll take decades to fix this if they start now, another year or two will be devastating. Putin looking for an escape hatch on a war he expected to not last a month may not be completely crazy.
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i mean, i certainly hope you're right, but he's had lots of issues with domestic sentiment before and there are lots of people taking a harder line than he is
if he takes a crappy deal he'll probably actually have to do some purging and that's always a risk unless they're total r-slurs
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Holy copium
Out of rockets in 2 weeks, economy collapses in 1 week
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This is why I'm livid about the "maximum pressure" bullshit with Iran. In diplomacy you don't announce "hey everyone, I'm going to be totally intransigent and insist on getting everything I want". You make a reasonable offer and either the Iranians refuse and prove that they're the ones causing the conflict or they accept and you actually get what you want. But nobody gives a shit about America's national interests. They just have to act tough for domestic audiences.
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Give the DMZ territory to Israel
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Jewish settlements in Kiev when?
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wasn't that the plan all along? turn ukraine into israel 2.0?
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The United States of Khazaria
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This would be worst deal in the history of deals, surely DDR can do better
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They should do this, then just make Poland annex Ukraine.
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Annexing sounds bad, it's merely reclaiming old borders.
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LvivLwówYet another massacre in Galicia-Volhynia
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On one hand, I'd tell you to keep reclaiming until you hit Moscow, but no one wants to share their country with Russians.
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Its the absolute worst situation.
It's like letting Hitler keep Sudetenland, Danzig Corridor, Austria, Poland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, and Norway.
It's like letting Hirohito keep Manchuria, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan, Borneo, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Singapore, New Guinea, The Solomons, The Marshals, Guam, and The Marianas.
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Ukraine doesn't have a single ally or friend or any mutual defence contracts with any other country
If they wanted protection they should have tried to befriend other states. In the end nobody owes Ukraine anything because they never did any favors for any other country ever. And now they're paying for it.
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I forgot they existed till 2014
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It's the first step in the negotiation.
It's not necessarily the outcome he's aiming for.
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Tardbrained idea.
Its just giving russia what it wants, and "freezing" the conflict which we have seen in every conflict of the last 30 years is just a blank check for the agressor to resume the attack at the time and place of his choosing.
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The prerogative to choose the time and place of an attack is really the essence of being an aggressor. If you think about it.
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Yet no one talks about reasonable alternatives. Ukraine can't push Russia out with what they have, the West isn't going to intervene directly, and when Russia finally reaches their breaking point, they'll just dig in and say come and take your territory back which Ukraine can't do.
Only thing I hope is that if Russia doesn't come to the table, we keep sending stuff. Cripple them for several more decades past the point they're at now.
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did u not read second part of proposal ?
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You're right but I don't think we're going to get a better deal than this.
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The only country that wins from that proposal is the US, so of course DDR is recommending it. Not that I blame him for trying
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Unironically
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This is why she left you you fricking cuck
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