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Am I the only one who thinks this would be a win for Ukraine? Looks like they keep 85% of their landmass and remain a sovereign nation. I don't see a realistic more favorable alternative.
So Redditors don't want Ukraine to stop fighting, they have no idea how now Ukraine can win and
best what pro khohols can claim in Kursk is 1:1 ratio 
2024 #Kursk Offensive confirmed equipment losses as of 11 November 2024
— Naalsio (@naalsio26) November 13, 2024
In summary:
315 (+7) Ukrainian 🇺🇦 losses vs. 303 (+11) Russian 🇷🇺 losses
Ukrainian 🇺🇦 confirmed losses added since last update:
1 destroyed M113A3
1 damaged M1126 Stryker infantry carrier vehicle
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At first they coped with Ukraine has big losses in Kursk because they are attacking.
But they haven't gained ground in Kursk since 15 August so they actually now defending with bigger loses
Edit: I started this post 2 days ago but got a bit sick so didn't had energy to finish it.
But yesterday was big day for pro khohol it was first time a western tank destroyed a Russian tank. It's a very big day and proves western tanks superiority despite that event western tank vs Russian score card in Ukraine is like 1:80
But on that post I mentioned that Ukraine actually lost that battle and very hard
Russian broke through around 6km and entered Kupyansk
gUpdate: There are now reports stating that Russia did indeed secure a foothold in Kupyansk. Apparently, it was off Nekrasova street (red outline). pic.twitter.com/7T8E69SxLo
— AMK Mapping 🇺🇦🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) November 14, 2024
The brigade that was protecting it is 116 brigade one of the brigades that has those leopards 2a4 (2a6 and abrams pretty exclusively used by my faf brigade 47)
That brigade is now in HUUUUGE trouble all types of glowies are send to find the reason of this fail. The only comment 116 brigade has given is that Russian attacked them during rotation.
Losing of Kupyansk will lead losing of black marked territory
And let Russia go after Izym and lyman. Russian being near those 2 location will lock all highways to Donbas and let only 2 weak roads to support whole Donbas front for Ukraine in Donbas so its as good as GG for them in such case.
Ukrainian didn't fought as hard now in Pokrovsk as they do in Kupyansk because it's easier to defend it than Pokrovsk
Hier BIPOC meer bewijs dat de #Russen inmiddels midden in #Kupyansk staan, i.p.v. jullie leugens gebaseerd op info van #Oekraïne, die ook heel het #MH17 dossier bij elkaar gelogen hebben, @telegraaf. Doe eens je werk als ECHTE journ*listen !! https://t.co/AXc5RbtELX https://t.co/f13D0BxcGd
— Kees de Beuker (@KeesDeBeuker12) November 14, 2024
And some neighbors even suggest Russian claimed a huge chunk of Kupyansk.
So back to main topic.
Trump plans is way better than what in reality Ukraine can get yet Redditors mad
Here how things will go with Trump plan. Putin will say he won't sign anything with unelected president. Republicans know it and been stealthy suggesting it:
But Zelenskyy is against it, he is going to lose and he sees that UK is helping Zaluzhnyy create an political image:
So Zelenskyy lived long enough to become Sadam
And there is legit no valid argument to tell Ukraine can't do president election since it's an parliamentary country, not at war (still to this day didn't declared it), martial law only spaces about parliamentary election no president election. Zelenskyy could had easily fixed it by doing constitutional hearing and asking all the judges if he still legal, but I guess he is afraid.
So Trump main road bump will be make Zelenskyy legal or get rid of him.
And that problem will takes at least months
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!jidf !neolibs !glowies !anticommunists !antifascists WE'RE SO BACK
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No heya-hoyas in trump's cabinet
Heya-hoyas don't think trans lives matter
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Real Americans know that the only thing that matters is a meatgrinder that kills Slavs.
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This but unironically, it's not about victory, it's about grinding down Russia as much as possible no matter the cost
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Cope. 2 years ago you did sound quite a bit different.
Слава россия
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THEY DIDN'T DECLARE WAR SO THERE'S LITERALLY NOT A WAR HAPPENING
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it's a three day special operation
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How many days was the first special military operation ?
"Congress authorized troop deployment in Vietnam, but, because it did not issue a declaration of war on North Vietnam or the Viet Cong, the Vietnam War is, technically speaking, not considered a war in the United States"
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vs
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Fun fact: the only US war since World War II which began with an actual declaration of war was in 1989... when Panama declared war on the United States.
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South American countries were smoking crack in those days when they thought they could fight Mayos.
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zoz
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we never should have been in 'nam, ho chi minh wanted to be allies with the US but our government were gigar-slurs about it
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In Vietnam, frogs told US that it would be great idea to help Vietnam then basically did nothing and let US do the heavy lifting.
In Ukraine, UK did the same.
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Then why Zelenskyy extending martial law every 3 months ? That shit cost money and if they at war he shouldn't do it
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/zelenskyy-extends-mobilization-martial-law-by-another-90-days-in-ukraine/3297526
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/zelenskyy-signs-bills-on-extending-ukraine-s-martial-law-mobilization-into-law/3386246
https://foreignbrief.com/ukraine-to-extend-martial-law-and-general-mobilization/
War is a legal status for a country so if country don't declare a war then it's not at war. This idea was created by burgers for Vietnam where it was world first special military operation. And Ukraine is at counter terrorism operation.
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Special military operation was first time used in Vietnam.
But it's kinda interesting Israel did declare war on Hamas
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classic coned
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i really need to pump those numbers up
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Funny the same thing happened to the Russian army 2 years ago.
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Did Russian stopped or I didn't finished it ?
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I still think we should make this war go on for as long as possible to maximize Russian suffering but if we want to end it this is probably the best option for Ukraine without getting NATO involved.
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As much as I would love to see NATO air power just melting aging communist junk to just end Commieboos forever, and 20 year old Army Rangers giving shout-outs to Zyn and Twitch thots on Livestream while they seize Russian airfields, I would also prefer to avoid WWIII and that one might be pushing it.
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Even if Biden/harris had won they would had tried to stop it. There is no real damage to Russia, they have now more missiles than in 2021 and losing less tanks than they pump. So the goal now is to save Ukraine and don't let Russian capture all Ukrainian resources, problem is Russia knows it. I wrote before spring counteroffensive launched last year if Ukraine fails it they won't have any card against Russia
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The same way Russian men are not really lost, now that they got replaced with -stanoids and africans?
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Russian got couple of millions Ukrainians as refugees.
And Russian mostly sent contractors fighting for those guys it's opportunity to steep up class.
Also in missile case it's easy, new missiles are always better. Like new Russian missiles have flares
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You cope a lot
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That's interesting, I haven't paid much attention to Ukraine since the US elections picked up. Do you think if the war ends now Russia will be in a better or worse state than before the war?
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I can't imagine it ending now tho.
But if all the sanctions are removed Russian will be better off.
Trump main goal is to break Russian/Chinese alliances. In long run this topic is way more important than Ukraine.
So Russia will be putt into position of choosing between west and China
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Do you think this a good deal for Russia? As in will Putin cut his losses in your eyes?
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Nah this is a L for Russia tbh.
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Should Russia take it though?
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Russia should take it. If they spend another year in Ukraine, they might have to make concessions to China on some border disputes and actually give the North Koreans ICBM technology instead of just giving them a 1980s book on rocket technology.
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NATO troops deep into the left bank of the Dnipier is obviously a hilariously bad deal for Russia.
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Russia isn't gonna get its shit reconstituted to do anything about that for at least a full decade.
A full decade is enough time for Europe to forget about Russia and self-sabotage themselves militarily again.
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What Putin offers is a no no for Ukrainian politician. He wants Ukraine to recognise territorial loses.
US offer is freezing the conflict. Accepting for west that Russia legally start owning Ukrainian territory is huge political problem so they are nowhere near accepting this so Putin will continue saying wast don't want real peace and continues grinding Ukraine
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None of this would have happened if Ukraine kept its nukes.
Bush and Putin were planning this shit when they met on Epstein island
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Ukraine never owned any nukes. During Soviet Union all nukes were property of Russian Soviet republics, all launch codes were there and even soldiers that were protecting those nukes were always picked to be out of Russia.
If Ukraine tried to touch those nukes US would been the first to start bombing Kiev.
There was also nukes in Kazakhstan and Belarus but they returned it without any problems but Ukraine started demanding stuff for them like they got some Soviet embassy's and etc, they didn't wanted to give Russian all the soviet legacy. So US decided to sell some memorandum (memo) to Ukrainian and to this day many people don't understand memo is just reminder you need to do something and doesn't mean you did it so memorandum have no binding or legal power
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Yeah yeah blah blah under glorious communism they're the people's nukes that belong to all the workers of the world
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The Soviet Unionn was a shithole.
The soviet state collapsed under its own incompetence and corruption
There's no more Soviet Union like there's no more Nazi Germany.
Read news from 2024 not 1940
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What does that have anything to do with what is being discussed here?
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Putin would have second thouughts about Ukraine if nukes could fly towards Moscow
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yeah but they can't so whats the point of circlejerking about alternate timeline
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True
Like that timeline where Russia's economy is booming and they are replacing tanks and missiles faster than they lose thdm.
Black trans lives matter
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owned nobody award
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when did he talk about this peace plan? I thought he wasn't being public about it
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His peace plan is fully giving responsibility for Ukraine to EU
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lol funny how I've been watching Western IFVs shit all over Russian tanks tho
Every dead zigger makes the world a little bit better
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What would
winning the war in favor of ukraine 
even look like?
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Putin declares victory and withdraws: Azov is destroyed and Ukraine has a Jewish president. The special denazification operation was a success!
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Putin offered them in 2015 to accept Crimea is Russia and he would had given them Donbas back so Ukraine just gambling for a miracle when every next day gets worse
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Yea legit ekection. The same way Putin got 80% of votes.
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80% is not even impressive compared how Moldovan president got 92% votes from EU Moldovan citizens. While inside the country she only got 48,7%
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Moldova is not part of the EU wtf u on about
If you mean people who moved out in the EU, yea they saw what life can be like outside a corrupt soviet shithole union. Who would want some vatnigs bleeding their country of resources?
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Now explain why Latinx voted for Trump and the wall
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Nukes.
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Honestly this is a bad deal for Russia
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They won't sign it
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Kiew in 3 days was it? Yea 9 more years of this shit.
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If Trump actually can get that piece deal for Ukraine that would probably be the most impressive foreign policy achievement of the US in the past several decades. Europeans are fricking delusional of course though and seem to still be convinced that Russia is losing. So I give it even odds that Ukraine is talked into rejecting that deal even if it's offered
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Factcheck: WARNING! THIS CLAIM HAS BEEN CLASSIFIED AS DANGEROUS. PLEASE REMAIN STILL, AN AGENT WILL COME TO MEET YOU SHORTLY.
This post was reviewed by an independent team of fact checkers.
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So no more eleven-figure donations to Slavs, please?
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If they had a good recruiting bonus I'd go fight Russia, yah
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I'll chip in 1000 DC/.month in addition to your normal salary
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