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Am I the only one who thinks this would be a win for Ukraine? Looks like they keep 85% of their landmass and remain a sovereign nation. I don't see a realistic more favorable alternative.

So Redditors don't want Ukraine to stop fighting, they have no idea how now Ukraine can win and

best what pro khohols can claim in Kursk is 1:1 ratio :marseyxd:

At first they coped with Ukraine has big losses in Kursk because they are attacking.

But they haven't gained ground in Kursk since 15 August so they actually now defending with bigger loses :marseyxd:

Edit: I started this post 2 days ago but got a bit sick so didn't had energy to finish it.

But yesterday was big day for pro khohol it was first time a western tank destroyed a Russian tank. It's a very big day and proves western tanks superiority despite that event western tank vs Russian score card in Ukraine is like 1:80

But on that post I mentioned that Ukraine actually lost that battle and very hard

Russian broke through around 6km and entered Kupyansk

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17316008286680984.webp

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The brigade that was protecting it is 116 brigade one of the brigades that has those leopards 2a4 (2a6 and abrams pretty exclusively used by my faf brigade 47)

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17316008291890788.webp

That brigade is now in HUUUUGE trouble all types of glowies are send to find the reason of this fail. The only comment 116 brigade has given is that Russian attacked them during rotation.

Losing of Kupyansk will lead losing of black marked territory

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17316008296991425.webp

And let Russia go after Izym and lyman. Russian being near those 2 location will lock all highways to Donbas and let only 2 weak roads to support whole Donbas front for Ukraine in Donbas so its as good as GG for them in such case.

Ukrainian didn't fought as hard now in Pokrovsk as they do in Kupyansk because it's easier to defend it than Pokrovsk

And some neighbors even suggest Russian claimed a huge chunk of Kupyansk.

So back to main topic.

Trump plans is way better than what in reality Ukraine can get yet Redditors mad :marseyxd:

Here how things will go with Trump plan. Putin will say he won't sign anything with unelected president. Republicans know it and been stealthy suggesting it:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17316008303778157.webp

But Zelenskyy is against it, he is going to lose and he sees that UK is helping Zaluzhnyy create an political image:

https://english.nv.ua/ukraine-negotiates-with-britain-to-train-thousands-of-future-civil-servants-zaluzhnyi-50466012.html

So Zelenskyy lived long enough to become Sadam :marseyxd:

And there is legit no valid argument to tell Ukraine can't do president election since it's an parliamentary country, not at war (still to this day didn't declared it), martial law only spaces about parliamentary election no president election. Zelenskyy could had easily fixed it by doing constitutional hearing and asking all the judges if he still legal, but I guess he is afraid.

So Trump main road bump will be make Zelenskyy legal or get rid of him.

And that problem will takes at least months

To end on funny note:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17316008308926487.webp

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Do you think this a good deal for Russia? As in will Putin cut his losses in your eyes?

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What Putin offers is a no no for Ukrainian politician. He wants Ukraine to recognise territorial loses.

US offer is freezing the conflict. Accepting for west that Russia legally start owning Ukrainian territory is huge political problem so they are nowhere near accepting this so Putin will continue saying wast don't want real peace and continues grinding Ukraine

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None of this would have happened if Ukraine kept its nukes.

Bush and Putin were planning this shit when they met on Epstein island

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Ukraine never owned any nukes. During Soviet Union all nukes were property of Russian Soviet republics, all launch codes were there and even soldiers that were protecting those nukes were always picked to be out of Russia.

If Ukraine tried to touch those nukes US would been the first to start bombing Kiev.

There was also nukes in Kazakhstan and Belarus but they returned it without any problems but Ukraine started demanding stuff for them like they got some Soviet embassy's and etc, they didn't wanted to give Russian all the soviet legacy. So US decided to sell some memorandum (memo) to Ukrainian and to this day many people don't understand memo is just reminder you need to do something and doesn't mean you did it so memorandum have no binding or legal power

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soviet

The Soviet Unionn was a shithole.

The soviet state collapsed under its own incompetence and corruption

There's no more Soviet Union like there's no more Nazi Germany.

Read news from 2024 not 1940

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Yeah yeah blah blah under glorious communism they're the people's nukes that belong to all the workers of the world

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What does that have anything to do with what is being discussed here?

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Putin would have second thouughts about Ukraine if nukes could fly towards Moscow

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yeah but they can't so whats the point of circlejerking about alternate timeline

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True

Like that timeline where Russia's economy is booming and they are replacing tanks and missiles faster than they lose thdm.

Black trans lives matter

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Nah this is a L for Russia tbh.

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Should Russia take it though? :marseyreading:

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Russia should take it. If they spend another year in Ukraine, they might have to make concessions to China on some border disputes and actually give the North Koreans ICBM technology instead of just giving them a 1980s book on rocket technology.

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NATO troops deep into the left bank of the Dnipier is obviously a hilariously bad deal for Russia.

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Russia isn't gonna get its shit reconstituted to do anything about that for at least a full decade.

A full decade is enough time for Europe to forget about Russia and self-sabotage themselves militarily again.

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