Spent $187 Million 
Secretly 
Buying 1,600 Acres of Hawaii 
Land, And Now He Is Reportedly Building 
A Massive Self-Sustaining Apocalypse 
Bunker
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/mark-zuckerberg-spent-187-million-191118946.html
mmt of in early 2020 and all those CEOs were stepping down
Several notable executives have stepped down or announced that they're stepping down in 2020. In fact, January 2020 set a record for the most CEO departures in the US in one month — 219 in all.
https://www.businessinsider.com/bob-iger-keith-block-ceos-that-stepped-down-in-2020
Also the tech billionaires have been expecting something for a bit
https://observer.com/2019/10/luxury-bunkers-billionaires-apocalypse-nuclear-war
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/511507434
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/business/bunkers-new-zealand-intl-hnk/index.html
Not that any of that was predictive programming, butt DAE member that intro to The Dawn of The Planet of The Apes(2014)
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It's so cute when rich people think that their money will mean anything without a strong government in existence to enforce contracts
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When one government falls another or more will emerge from the chaos. Those governments are typically founded by the people with resources. Its not like chaos exists sustainably. Even in war torn Africa there is rich people running shit and poor people working for breadcrumbs or in chains.
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What "resources" will Zuckerberg have sitting in his fancy bunker? At best he might have gold bullion, which would do frickall for rebuilding civilization and would likely just be stolen from him when he emerges to try to barter his way back to power.
Because their wealth is stored in the West.
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probably food, potable water, guns/ammo, seeds, advanced computers, running electricity, probably a few boston dynamic ai cyborgs
something something globalization. That also doesnt counter my point
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They're going to have enough for a handful of people.
lol
For a bunker and a small family. Not an electrical grid.
A couple computers aren't gonna mean shit when the priorities are growing food, building shelter, and re-establishing order.
You have no idea what actual survivalism entails. None of that will make them rich and powerful after a civilizational collapse. The new rich and powerful will be the warlords who can marshall the firepower to re-establish a monopoly of force under their local regime.
Yes it does. The Western financial system and economies are where these rich Africans store their wealth. If civilization collapses, there won't be anymore wealth.
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so rich people/military industrial complex connected people
You dont know either, because you dont even know what cataclysm we would be trying to survive.
because africa had no money/civilization b4 westerners showed up. Lmao dont be a racist
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Naw, more likely field grade officers, police chiefs, i.e. the people who can rally and lead the guys who are trained in organized violence. Maybe there are some "rich and connected" who can help keep things running, too, but the power inevitably goes to the guys who can command the most people with guns. The late Roman Empire and the Warlord period in China are instructive on this matter.
You're the one citing "boston dynamic ai cyborgs" as a useful thing in a survivalist scenario.
Wtf are you talking about? I'm talking about modern rich Africans storing their wealth offshore to keep it away from local instability. During a regime collapse, the ones who don't store their wealth offshore have it sacked and stolen either by the next regime or during general unrest. You're the one that brought up "war torn Africa".
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bc thats totally comparable to what would happen in a modern scenario.
what about that wouldnt be useful in maintaining a $167million self-sustaining compound in a post collapse world?
there were rich africans before modernity, chud.
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The Warlord period was only a century ago. This is what always happens when there's a collapse of the current order. All of the complex systems that relied on this order fall apart and power decentralizes.
It wouldn't be useful for a local subsistence community. Neither would a luxury bunker.
When there was a war that brought down the regime upon which these rich relied, then they stopped being "the rich".
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I'm curious about their gun collections
The politics of their groups are extremely anti gun, but there's no fricking way you're preparing for the apocalypse without hoarding guns and ammo.
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deep down the politics was always anti poor people having guns, mainly so that we dont raid their compounds during the mass cullings.
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You don't need a gun when you've built a series of interconnected underground bunkers with other rich people.
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you definitely do, or else there is no stopping other people from entering your underground tunnels, shooting you, and taking them as their new base.
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How the frick are you getting into the bunker? You gonna kick the door down? Are you r-slurred?
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Nothing is impenetrable.
Break through concrete walls with sledge or jack hammer.
Or they have to get air from somewhere unless they have some type of underground forest.
Block their air intakes and exhausts and they will have to come out.
Or get some thermite or w/e and burn through that shit.
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You know the things are built to withstand nukes
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Titanic was also built to not sink
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Good luck with that. How are you powering a jack hammer? How long to sledge hammer through a concrete wall that's several feet thick and reinforced? Can you squeeze through rebar? You sound r-slurred.
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Cope and Seethe Zuckercuck, I'll find a way in.
And when I do your pale white butt is mine.
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Simple. I go to my kitchen, mix up some chlorine gas bombs, and drop them down the vents. Anybody who runs out is getting dropped by a silenced scoped rifle, and anybody who stays in dies from the gas.
Admittedly I would prefer if they run out because making thermite is really a hassle (it's tricky to get the mix of aluminum and magnesium just right) and it would be a lot more convenient for me to get access if they just opened the doors up, but if they were reasonable people they wouldn't be gatekeeping me in the first place, so
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Literally all you need to get into these "impregnable" compounds is alcohol, bleach, and chlorine.
Maybe a little ammonia and vinegar if you're feeling creative
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see, you get it
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Where there's a will there's a way, particularly if what's inside is of great value to someone with a will to do something other than just lay down and wait to die.
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There was an article last year written by some guy (probably larping) claiming he was a consultant on the bunker building of all these billionaires. It claims they're insanely paranoid and are looking for techies to tell them there's a solution to having some warlord execute them and take all their stockpiles (which there isn't). I don't know if I believe anything in the article was real. I posted it here at the time, I'll try to find it again. But at some point the writer also talks about regular people trying to doom-prep and how all the normal people are trying to form communities ahead of time so that they're not one man against the world when the apocalypse comes.
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Was it this article? https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff
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Yeah I think so. Thanks for finding that. I said I was going to but I really probably wouldn't have.
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Are they gonna live in their bunkers forever? What will they eat after 3-5 years?
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Fungus.
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Everyone else will be dead within a year. They can come out after that.
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Neighbors act like every redneck can't make tannerite. Your doors can't resist near infinite high explosives
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tannerite is popular because it's a legal explosive to buy at the gun shop and moxify into the ready to go form, not because rednecks are synthesizing it from scratch. I'm guessing actual post apocalypse explosives would be ANFO. That being said, if you're not able to project power out of your fortified position, your enemies could simply bury you, smoke you out, or pump diesel in and roast you like at fort drum. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/fort-drum-the-concrete-battleship.html
This is why a proper bunker is constructed with multiple concealed entrances, and hopefully positions covering entrances, so as to make attack too expensive, and allow sallying against the enemy's rear and siege train.
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The fact that these people are so dumb that they think the bunker thing is gonna work is hilarious.
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Dude it's ammonium nitrite and aluminum powder. Mix it and shoot it. No problem making anfo at that point since you have something to trigger it with. But you can't just make anfo bc it won't explode with out a primary charge. Ngmi.
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You should read up on the private conversation Putin had with the Russian oligarchs shortly after he took power. You know, the one where he made it clear to them who was in charge. That's the kind of thing you're describing when you say "When one government falls another will rise from the chaos."
It's like... you're definitely not wrong, but you're really obfuscating a lot of wild shit with that one euphemistic phrase
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An authoritarian government is still a government. My point is that the idea of roving bands of poors simply going into purge mode with butlers stabbing their rich employers in the back and taking there gold is unlikely/wouldnt last very long after the dust of whatever cataclysm that lead to that settles. Afterward some kind of governments or governments would form and take hold and probably have their own organized skirmishes for power. Rich people who survive that will do so because they will have been rich, but alsp because they picked the right alliances. The poors wont have as good a chance as the rich in either case. imho
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So if American's "new government" turns out to be like Venezuela you're confident in your ability to thrive because you "picked the right alliances"?
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No, butt I assume the rich would have a better time than the poor. Why do you think Im talking about myself?
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That's what they assumed in the Russian Revolution also. And yet...
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true, didnt a lot of the wealthy simply escape though?
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My family escaped because they had been banished to Siberia so the Red Army took a long time to get there. But most of the nobility got fricking annihilated.
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They would never!
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Money isn't a resource in the apocalypse. Did you learn nothing from mad max?
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Money buys resources. He probably isnt gonna be counting on a pallet of greenbacks in his basement. He'll probably have lots of highly tradeable goods stored up and precious metals
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Except, unlike Africa, if the literal world fell into chaos there'd be no wealthy countries to contribute aid.
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