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!fellas

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Note: This is foid is not a leftoid, she's an anarchocapitalistoid. This does not stop moids from responding as if she's ridin' with Biden.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17133796963478303.webp

Patriarchy is a protection racket

!biofoids You have to be subservient to us or those other moids will hurt you. They're not in on it, I swear :marseyangel3:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1713379696293048.webp

https://twitter.com/CoolHandJames0/status/1780261530078007527

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17133796966219916.webp

https://twitter.com/dvigilrpg/status/1780629789960708339

Castrato

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1713379696485616.webp

https://twitter.com/MsMostDope/status/1780315882612232680

She knows :malefeminist:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17133796967278223.webp

https://twitter.com/carynannharlos/status/1780472634376945897

Approximately 500 pictures of that one guy

I'm not posting them all, make a Twitter account if you like him that much

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17133796968062096.webp

https://twitter.com/dvigilrpg/status/1780629789960708339

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so, this is a cry for help from me to be honest, because i have no female role models or women older than me to confide in and get advice.

recently, these past few days, i've been going down the rabbithole of how harmful porn, but most importantly "mainstream" porn is (the stuff that is on the front page of pornhub when you don't have an account with a curated feed), which is becoming more and more extreme, misogynistic, a power fantasy and in a survey, it was determined that up to 45% of porn videos contain acts of violence against women.

i've also read a very worrying article about how choking is becoming "vanilla" now, and an act that isn't even discussed beforehand (a huge surge of men in college just choke their partners without consent because of how normalised it is). and i have seen various ways being "vanilla" is used as a way to insult and shame women.

i have a pretty nuanced point of view, by which i mean that porn and porn production that actively abuses, r*pes, manipulates, drugs and exploits women is not in the same boat as women drawing manga for women and selling them, and professional voice actors selling audio CDs. i'm posting here, because i don't want a debate right now, i want a way to cope.

back to my point: i am an 18 year old girl, and part of one of the first generations to grow up with what i'll call "as soon as you hit 13, almost everyone has seen porn". the first time i saw porn, was when i was 11, and googled it because we were warned about it in s*x ed. i didn't really become a girl that watches a lot of porn, but i'd seen it, and masturbated to it before. i'd started masturbating when i was 8.

later, when i became a fan of BTS, i started reading wattpad fanfiction. and watching what was called "21+ imagines" on youtube. after a while, i realised that i didn't really like them as much as i thought, because the popularised daddy/babygirl, male dominance, "punishment" stuff was not my cup of tea. it's through yaoi and BL manga, that i was truly able to discover what sexually aroused me, and what didn't, due to the simple absence of a woman to objectify. now you might call me an evil fetishizer for reading yaoi and BL, but again, please, i'm not looking for a debate, but for possibly advice and help for my feelings. i also discovered otome content a year later.

a few years ago, i started watching irl porn from time to time, which was mostly solo male stuff because couple's porn disgusted me, and turned me off immediately, because of the clearly male gazey shots. but most importantly: the violence, degradation, spitting, slapping women's vulva, and those horrid titles implying incest, barely legal, forced, and all those degrading ways to describe women's reproductive systems, and women themselves. because i only watch solo male videos, my feed is only male focused, when i do open up pornhub. but i always saw the "popular in your region" underneath my feed, where i saw all these horrifying things, whether i wanted it or not.

my brother and father make porny jokes around me all the time, and it honestly makes me uncomfortable to hear "haha put your spermidium in this sauce for some extra protein and rejuvenation" every second sentence. my father was always what i call "too open" about s*x with his children. he is determined of not making it a taboo, but he went too far. i know he likes anally fricking women, that he bought a sounding device for himself, that he downloads porn, caught him masturbating thrice, etc.

now i've watched "beyond fantasy", a documentary about porn. and yesterday, i cried when finishing episode 3. maybe i feel even more pain because of my own history with (non-sexual) child abuse, but still. no matter how you look at it, it's horrible.

and i know for a fact, all men my age watch porn. almost all of them. enough of them, that making porny jokes infront of your own daughter is okay. enough, that porn has become this normal thing that every man and teen uses. and porn isn't what it used to be.

i read a comment from someone that used to be in the porn industry back in the day, and she said something along the lines of "back then, anal was the most non-normal thing in porn, the most extreme. today it's become this mandatory part of porn".

i can't get what i saw in this documentary out of my head. it's like the ceiling came crashing down on me. will this be the reality of dating? will i be called a prude for disliking mainstream porn? will i have to sift through endless amounts of men that watch extreme porn, to find someone to love me? will porn continue to literally detroy women's bodies, and drive them to suicide?

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!macacos

Erika Vieira Nunes wheeled a dead 68-year-old man into a bank where she told staff he wished to take out a loan worth £2,600.

Erika Vieira Nunes wheeled the corpse into the bank in a suburb of Rio de Janeiro and told an employee that the man wanted a loan for 17,000 reais (£2,600), security camera video showed.

She then held a pen to the man saying: "Uncle, are you listening? You need to sign," according to the footage.

"He doesn't say anything, that's just how he is," she said, adding: "If you're not okay, I'm going to take you to the hospital."

Bank staff soon became suspicious as the man's head kept falling back so they called the police who arrested Nunes.

She was charged with vilification of a corpse and attempted theft through fraud, according to the Rio newspaper O Dia.

"She knew he was dead… he had been dead for at least two hours," Fabio Luiz Souza, an investigating officer told the breakfast news programme, Bom Dia Rio, on Wednesday.

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I was inspired to dig around for some delicious downvote trauma from @JimieWhales comment since I hadn't in a while and found a day old downvote trauma thread in my favorite girlboss sub, /r/CPTSD :marseyembrace:

I know I'm asking for downvotes for this one, so this time I'm prepared lol.

Like you just poured your entire list of traumas and coping mechanisms into one post, you allow your heart to just let everything out, raw and uncensored, entirely of how you feel. You're sad, you needed to let it out, so you did. You're in a weak place right now.

You upload it, and the first reaction you get is that you're indirectly told that it's stupid or doesn't matter so people hit the dislike button. At least, to me, that's how it feels. Which is fair, not everyone on Earth is going to approve of me as a person or who I am or what I do. There are plenty of people on this planet who hate me. But honestly it just re-enables the notion that my trauma really is my fault, that I am a bad person, and sometimes I don't know wether it's a safe place to ramble or not if someone was so quick to say my issues were invalid in a sub that was literally created exactly for what the subject matter was about.

This is honestly though, with everything I ever post or upload. One Downvote, I delete it. One dislike on a YouTube video, I delete it. I don't know why I'm so sensitive, but one singular hint of someone disapproving my issues or me really expressing myself just sours my mood and I just go silent. My brain makes a big deal out of the most trivial things, even down to some stranger across the country who doesn't even know me judging who I am or what I say. Is this a trauma thing? Does anyone else deal with this? Why?? Why am I so darn sensitive to every little thing?

:#marseystopposting:

I think some of it is just trolling. When I sort by new there's been a few times that I've seen several posts in a row that have been downvoted to zero, like someone has just worked their way down the list and hit the down arrow.

Oh wow, that's such a piece of shit thing for someone to do on a sub like this...

:#marseytears:

Most of the time I post it and then immediately delete it because maybe someone will argue with me.

:#marseyscared:

Years ago, I deleted my whole account for a downvote on a sensitive reply I made. And yes, definitely a trauma thing for me. Perfectionism can be brutal.

:#marseyschizotwitch:

Upvoting to counter all the downvotes :) are you familiar with Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria?

:#marseynotes:

time to add a new thing to the CTPSD/CFS/POTS/fibromyalgia/chronic lyme/long covid list

Decided to dig deeper into seeing who you're causing downvote trauma to when you're irresponsible with your heckin' downdoots.

Claims her dad is a narcissist for wanting to spend time with her. Mentions autism, anxiety, depression

Calls her mom a narcissist for not having enough money to pay a vet bill for a marsey with a broken leg

“If I had the number of chromosomes of how many times my posts have been automatically removed, I'd be an autist..”

Calls her mom a narcissist for refusing to play taxi for therapist appointment

“Is It Normal To "Seek Attention" So To Speak, Due To C-PTSD?”

:marseynoooticer:

Another example of her dad being a narcissist and giving her CPTSD for telling her about Santa Claus

How Do I Know If I'm Actually Having Depressive Thoughts Or If I'm Just Being An Attention Whore? (self.CPTSD)

:marseynooticeglow:

Upset that her narcissistic parents aren't accepting of her art

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17132963490031881.webp

“Does Anybody Have a Food Disorder or Eating Problem Due To Your Trauma?”

“Some random person on the street today shouted "FAT B-WORD" at me from the back seat of their car today.”

:marseyobesescale:

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He said to me, “she's beautiful. She's quiet, she's simple, she's not annoying. She doesn't nag me. She doesn't argue, she's not combative. She's not fat and she's not lazy. She's fun, she's spontaneous. I forget about my troubles when I'm around her. She makes my life easier oppose to complicating it like you. She's just everything that you're not anymore but you use to be. She's a younger version of you. She reminded me of you 15 years ago”

Proving yet again if a woman is having marriage problems it's because she either doesn't put out, got fat, or is a nagging b-word. In this case all three.

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I said this for a long time. He's an Ahole but not a p-do. It seems like there is a witch hunt to lump him in that group and has been for a while. It's really sick what people do with the media tool

Yeah the dan schneider stuff was pretty mid. He's a misogynist with a high schooler sense of humor. Thinks it's hilarious to get subtle adult shit past censors (which isn't uncommon for kids shows, see Shrek). Toxic boss. Violated labor laws. None of this was new.

But definitely not a p-dophile. Seems like he got lumped in with the other two

I'm not going to deny Alexa Nikolas' experience but she's a bit of a grifter if you take one look at her channel.

Christy Carlson Romano had the best description for "Quiet on Set" she called it "Trauma tourism, these are people who are not part of the community, they add nothing to the community, they just want to gawk and exploit it."

This is a little off topic, but since we're talking about manipulative editing, I found it pretty off putting how during the Brian Peck episode, they kept dramatically cutting to pictures of him, almost like a jump scare. Especially because they acted like they were candid photos when a LOT of them were in character as (gag) Pickle Boy, who's whole shtick was being creepy

A character that he was voluntarily agreeing to play - he didn't have to do a bit part, and he was connected enough to say “no” to anything. And people like this who think they're too powerful to get caught, they love to “confess” through comedy, the innuendo was part of the appeal to him.

Its important to note that Alexa Nikolas was a disgruntled employee.

She was fired for feuding with Jamie Lynn on set. Of course her experience was toxic- she was fired.

Just watching her YouTube channel, she seems very unhinged & would likely accuse anyone of anything based on how you look at her.

She even went after lovable Matt Bennett for being a DJ using Nickelodeon songs.

"Disgruntled employee" bro she was a 13 year old girl

Yeah they also painted convicted felons as sympathetic victims, all while there's evidence this man is actively grooming a minor. Pathetic.

"Yeah they also painted convicted felons as sympathetic victims"

I mean, Reddit and X do this on a daily basis.

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I'm a 34 y/o woman. Struggling with dating apps and dating in general. I'm trying to put the work in to meet men outside. I am just struggling trying to figure out where y'all are? I've been to HEB, Central Market and Whole Foods, no luck. Tried going out alone to restaurants a couple times and sat at the bar with no luck. Are there certain areas y'all professional men like to hang after work? I'm usually at the gym lol

Following bc I'm curious too. 30F and I go out enough to public spots but too chicken I guess to actually talk to someone. Gym had some cute bro dudes but I'd never approach. I've been approached at HEB on wash ave a couple times, maybe that's the new move? Perhaps pickleball spots?

Wishing you all the best. Same, I go out a lot alone actually. I have heard that women sometimes unknowingly are not open to men approaching them. So I'm gonna try to make an effort to make eye contact and smile more. I go to the HEB in montrose. I'm a resident and figured I'd run into more like minded men there? Idk. Pickleball does sound like a great place!

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This bait is :marseychefkiss:, just read the thread yourselves.

Best subthread: misandry does real

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Ladies, would you rather be in the forest with a bear or a man? :marseybear:

My backyard borders the state gamelands, I've had bears in my yard. I've seen them as close as my front door and they are usually minding their own business, and run away if you are loud enough. I needed a protection order to get my ex away from me. So, I'll take the bear.


I realized I'm not very informed about bears, so I hopped to Google to see how often they attack humans:

Although rare, attacks on humans have occurred, inflicting serious injuries and death. Each bear and each experience is unique; there is no single strategy that will work in all situations and that guarantees safety. Most bear encounters end without injury.

And then I realized we can rewrite it like:

Although rare, attacks on women have occurred, inflicting serious injuries and death. Each man and each experience is unique; there is no single strategy that will work in all situations and that guarantees safety. Most encounters with a man end without injury.

But I guess I'd rather be in the forest with a man, just because it's a more familiar terrifying situation.

If I die by bear, it wasn't personal. It was an animal doing animal things for animal reasons.

If I die by man, it was most certainly personal. It was a person making a choice to hurt me for cruel reasons.

I'd sooner take my chances with a bear.


I shoot astrophotography so I'm sometimes out all night alone in remote areas. I keep bear spray and a knife on me during those trips and it's definitely NOT the bears that I'm worried about.


I dunno. I live pretty rural and I assume there is some sort of predator nearby when I go hiking. Out of the two if I saw a wild animal predator like a cat or bear (ignoring the standard rule that if you were being stalked you wouldn't see it until the initial charge/attack) I think I'd feel semi secure just backtracking to my vehicle as long as I'm armed.

If I saw a man coming and he gave me predator vibes I'm not sure. I've read stories of women even with like a Doberman being overpowered if the man is armed because he's proactive with his weapon. The timing of “is he coming for me or just walking past me” can be the difference of life or death even with a protection dog. He could even disarm me if he came at me with that as a priority and caught me off guard instantly. I think a bear wouldn't reach for my gun and hopefully I've responded by the time it got that close.

So I'm leaning to preferring walking across a predator like a cat or bear then having to deal with that rather than an unexpected man in the woods.


I'd take a black bear over a strange man for sure. Grizzly bears are scarier, but then again, a lot of men are scary and wily. I think once you get away from the grizzly it wouldn't bear a grudge and come back for you, but as we all know, unfortunately men will. For polar bears, maybe I'd choose the man.


Bears are not smart enough to carry a gun or machete

Bears are not smart enough to anticipate a face full of capsicum

Bears are scared of loud horns

On the flipside I am instinctively scared of bears and I would automatically go into panic mode if I saw one anywhere close to where I was and if it had noticed my presence. I would probably end up spraying it in the face with hot pepper.

I don't know who the man is, what he's capable of and what weapons he's carrying. The man could be anyone and since at least 40% of men have admitted that they would rape a woman if they could get away with it. Around 20% would commit violent rape. I'm plus sized and 35% of men are attracted to a chubby-fat woman, 12% prefer obese women. That gives me around perhaps 5-10% odds that I could be with a potential attacker. Just under 90% of people arrested for robbery are male (that doesn't even account for the fact that a lot of women are accomplices for a man). If I have my phone with me, which is a rather nice phone, how do I know that said man won't steal it from me? Plus all the cash and debit cards I could be carrying.

Not to mention all the other things that exist in the woods during summer, hornets, wasps, mosquitoes, gadflies, wild pigs, stags, snakes, spiders. I also have an unstable knee and ankles and I am physically unable to run and I can't walk very well on uneven surfaces. I think I would rather stay out of the woods.


Bear. Where I live, we only get black bears. They are not that large, and they tend to shy away from humans. Also any decent hiker knows basic black bear behaviour and can act accordingly when they encounter one.

Some random dude in the woods? Nah. I hike alone every once in a while, and I automatically go into hyper vigilant potential defense mode if I encounter a man in the woods. They are not predictable, and they could potentially try to do me harm for no reason. I'll take the bears.


A bear! Hands down!

Why?

A bear isn't going to rape me, trap me, or torture me. If a bear means me harm it's gonna slaughter me quick. How do I know this? Well it will either eat me cuz it's hungry or end what it thought was a threat. Either way it's going for an efficient kill. Men on the other hand might have other intentions and motives

Also, my experience has been, bears are just as afraid of me as I am of them. Men on the other hand, they aren't afraid of a tiny petite woman like me. They know if they use force, weight, strength, etc that they'll win unless I have a weapon to defend myself with

Nothing will change my mind on this subject

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For context:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17127868922984662.webp

From OP:

I've seen a few reposts about the Romeo and Juliet play and how unforgivably unattractive the actress is. Each time it's posted, it's just comment after comment saying this girl is "fulgy,"...

I have similar features to that actress (I'm also very fat). I've made peace with the fact that I'm ugly

:marseyl#:

Oh... She's not ugly. She's just black.

:donkeythonk#:

Francesca Amewudah-Rivers is an attractive young woman. Don't listen to all this racist garbage.

:marseycope#:

Had to look it up - she's stunning. And now she's gonna be gaslit by people who insist otherwise. It's exhausting

:surejan#:

Wait until these chucklefricks learn that back in Shakespeare's day when R&J was written, boys played BOTH roles.

So you're saying black women look like men?? :marseydetective#:

It's not that she's unattractive. She isn't. It's almost certainly the fact that these people are racist.

:marseyindignantretard#:

I'm fat and definitely not pretty…. I consider myself plain & nondescript on a really good day. Heck, my ex told me repeatedly that I was “passable”. But my current partner thinks I'm gorgeous. As in I catch them staring in awe of my beauty. (Yes I'm like WTF is wrong with you?) At first I was really confused but I'm starting to understand that as long as I'm beautiful to them, the world's opinion means NOTHING.

You're actually really pretty tho'. Your ex was definitely lying to you .

!foidmoment :marseyfoidretard#: :marseymanysuchcases#:

Bonus /r/FauxMoi Sneed: 1 2 3

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Good morning!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1712985289948134.webp


Research shows women build cardio and endurance faster than men. Strength gain is basically the same but cardio much faster. RELATIVE muscle gain is the same with the same workout. Women's bodies use oxygen more efficiently and supply it to the muscles better than men. The only advantage men have is starting mass and starting strength.

Oh, is that all? :marseysurejan:


I was asked the "can you handle the work" question when I was 18 and was in amazing condition. I spent my high school years in the gym from 5 pm to 10 pm 5 days a week. They still asked me the question. The body builder question might be sexism, but if it's blocks that are like 120 lbs, it's fair to ask that of a woman who might weigh less than 100.

:soycry: Noooo you can't use your personal experience to suggest this isn't sexism!

I used to work for a small company that did a lot of this type of work, and they've turned plenty of men away for being too scrawny. They didn't want anybody that looked like they couldn't press their body weight.

:soycry: Noooo you can't use your personal experience to suggest this isn't sexism!

If youve never worked any landscaping or similar type job, its about 10 times harder than you would imagine. My line of work sometimes required some minor excavation, and I just hire day laborers for that. A solid 30 seconds with a shovel and i want to die

:soycry: Noooo you can't use your personal experience to suggest this isn't sexism!


He probably skimmed the email, said “eh whatever.” And called some other applicant lol.

Or maybe he read it all and cried.

:#marseycope:

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it's been 50 years since we got the right to open our own open bank accounts & credit cards.

in 2024,

  • we pay 30% more in overdraft fees

women overdraft their account more often, and this is mens fault :marseywomanmoment2:

  • the wage gap exists after adjusting for hours worked, occupation, education, & industry

no source, so I found this https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/02/24/childless-women-in-their-twenties-out-earn-men-so/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/

  • everyday goods & services cost us more 42% of the time

women choose to buy more ex0ensive stuff than men, again this is mens fault

i don't think society ever wanted women to have money.

we now outnumber men in the college-educated workforce, yet we still have a whole host of financial issues to grapple with. clearly the system was designed to leave us out and powerful forces are involved in keeping the status quo as it is.

womxn have more access to education and thats bad too

with the rise of the tradwife/stay at home girlfriend trends, "lobotomy core," and "i'm not a feminist" becoming a trend on TikTok, it's clear that people still (at least subconsciously) don't want women to be financially independent.

womxn dont want to be :marseywitch2: and the west has fallen

also womxn:

Women long held primary purchasing responsibility for everyday household items, but today, they control or influence 85% of consumer spending.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/05/21/unlocking-the-trillion-dollar-female-economy/

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:marseyfoidretard: :marseywomanmoment2:
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https://old.reddit.com/r/DabblersAnonymous/comments/1bz95xq/video_elisa_jordana_being_attacked/?sort=controversial (this foid cut off the start of the video lol I hate women)

https://old.reddit.com/r/DabblersAnonymous/comments/1bz6fq8/anyone_else_just_see_elisa_jordana_get_assaulted/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/howardstern/comments/1bzese3/elisa_jordana_more_footage_of_her_altercation/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/howardstern/comments/1bz7wnj/elisa_jordana_gets_in_a_brutal_fight_on_livestream/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/CrazyFrickingVideos/comments/1bzkm8t/former_howard_stern_employee_livestreams_fight/?sort=controversial

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1bz810w/former_howard_stern_employee_livestreams_fight/?sort=controversial

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:marseyl: Slam pigs :marseychonkerfoid: of Reddit, how did it feel being a side piece? :marseyl:
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:#marseysow::#marseyfoidretard: :#marseyreapcrying:

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For context, here is xir KnowYourMeme page

Back in February, she paid stan Twitter account ThePopTingz to promote her album with this tweet

It ended up going viral and becoming a joke among stan twitter cute twinks:

idk what's making me laugh harder, the pic, the limited replies, the account being private or like who tf is this 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Olivia Rodrigo in jail for promoting alcohol to kids, Tate McRae gone missing, Lorde in retirement,Sabrina Carpenter doxxed and abducted by certain people, she knew she had one chance. She came and delivered

The way this album is from July 2023 😭😭😭 she only got the payola money this week

SHE COULDN'T EVEN AFFORD POP CRAVE IM CRYING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

In 2019 she paid another more prominent account, Pop Crave to promote her:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17125825960628707.webp

Pop Crave deleted the promo tweet in 2024, after the PopTingz Post went viral and now Julie is sneeding about it.

From 4:00 minutes into her video :marseylongpost#:

It just sucks, it feels like they are trying to forget my herstory...

:marseywomanmoment#2:

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Woman gets upset about not being noticed, gets upset about being noticed later on after putting in effort to be noticed.

OP responds to quite a few of the most downvoted comments. Many comments have been jannied.

:marseymisssize#:

Kinda want to get this off my chest, but… Went to this house party I was invited to, it was a small gathering and I'm the new friend in an established group of friends.

I turned up with my wavy hair all tussled because I didn't have time to blow dry it properly, so car blow dried it, no makeup… Besides maybe mascara… Everyone was quite nice, and introducing one another.

There was this one guy though, in particular who doesn't have the best reputation, completely dodging me all night, not even asking my name, or introducing himself. Basically in a, “I'm to good to talk to you” particular way. Now I shouldn't care what he thinks, because of his poor reputation … Context: (“Tik Tok'er”) that has young girls thirsting over him, million likes, etc, brags about the women he pulls… Even though he's 25, dating a 19 year old…

But it immediately just flashed me back in High School, where guys would treat you awfully, or wouldn't even acknowledge your existence unless you were attracted to them.

Today we all went again (another small gathering party), and he was there again. This time I actually had my makeup done, my hair blow dried, and a cute casual outfit.

Immediately that's when he decides to come and approach me, asking what was my name, etc, and acknowledging my existence.

I don't know if anyone else has experienced behaviour like this, but it's quite vile, and honestly sad.

:#marseyarsey:

Reminder: This is a subreddit for women. "Not all men" and "Women do it too" posts from men are not ok.

:marseyjanny2talking:

Treat him the same way he treated you the first meeting and just brush him off and ignore him.

I do! I avoid him all the time. I feel so sorry for his young girlfriend. Such a sweet girl, with a horrible dude. (OP)

:marseyindignantretard:

Or maybe the guy was just playing the aloof, hard to get type. Or maybe he just shy. Or maybe we all use eachother when we want something from eachother.

I'm sure you treat guys you're not interested in just like that guy treated you, we all do it. We'll probably have a handful of relationships in our lives where the person we're attracted to feels similarly towards us and that feeling lasts enough for us to turn a blind eye to their shortcomings enough to build something together.

We simply don't have the time or energy to invest in every person we meet, unless you're the extrovert, social butterfly type, in which case your attention is not the type romantically interested people actually want. [jannied]

It never ceases to amaze me how many men will come in here and give excuses for other men acting like trash, and the second we return the favour we're actually the aggressors, actually actually

Don't force your "turn the other cheek" nonsense on us. Go lecture the butthole. And kindly buzz off until you understand the meaning of "double standard"

:marseytradragingtyping:

I just have to put it into perspective, cause I find the phrasing troublesome.

You go to a party, "everyone was quite nice", one guy ignores you = men are vile.

Incel perspective: I go to a party, everyone is quite nice, one girl whom I find attractive ignores me = women are vile. [jannied]

It's not just that he wasn't very welcoming or nice.. it's that he treated her differently (seemingly) depending on how cute she looked. If he always ignored her then I doubt this post would even exist.

The problem is that you make just as many general and broad claims across the board as any misogynist who has also had many individual, bad experiences with women. None of it equates to the majority of the population of the opposite s*x being that way. It is dishonest at best, and alienating at worst and will only help create a bigger divide than there already is. Your phrasing was literally that "everyone was being nice." But that one guy was a jackass and now men are vile. You single out the one bad experience, amongst all the rest and highlight it as the overarching experience you had, while in reality your experience was vastly more positive than negative.

Now, we are all victims of this, and we all hyper focus on the negatives over the positives in our lives. Streamers are an excellent example of this, 95% of the comments in the chat are positive and praising. One chatter says something stupid, the streamer will typically single out that individual, pull them out and make some sweeping general statement about how horrible people online are. I can relate to this in my life, on so many levels, because if there's one that's already way more critical about myself than anyone else, it's me. I have had to learn to take a step back to look at the bigger picture and put these individual instances into perspective, as to not drive myself mad. What is my overall experience with people? Is it truly majority negative, or is the negative experience just the one that I put the most focus on? [jannied]

The gaslighting and victim blaming is hilarious in this. My post has nothing to do with “incel” garbage. I'm not trying to hookup with anyone, etc.

I am disgusted by the mere fact that I am not treated like a human, but dog waste on someone's shoe, solely because I don't look “attracted enough” for a man.

Which is a common behaviour that women have to deal with from men, in our teen years, and adult life.

I didn't look “homeless” either, I just wasn't wearing makeup, which is disgusting to be treated that way.

It's really not hard to be polite and kind. It's bare minimum.

The amount of triggered men on my post trying to take over and or make their own twisted events is alarming. (OP)

:marseydarkfoidretard:

Why do u care about not getting noticed by a idiot guy? You alredy knew that he only dates young and pretty girls, so why do u have some kind of expectation on him? Just get over it.

Because people should be kind, and polite. It's bare minimum. Treating people like dog waste on their shoe, is absolutely rancid. Behaviour like this deserves to be called out, because many women go through it even in their teen years. Being disrespected by boys, or men, treated awfully because they aren't the top tier pretty girls.

It's vile behaviour, plain and simple. (OP)

:marseyindignantwoman:

This is just an incel talking point repackaged.

No. All men think this way

:marseymad:

Do you like the guy? I feel like you like the guy.

Why are you thinking about how he in particular treats you? I think it's because you like the guy.

You see, I think it's the same in both directions: Attractive men tend to be buttholes (not all, but many) because they have many women competing for their attention, hence, they will pick and choose. And invest time only in the ones they are attracted to.

Attractive women tend to be rude and mean (not all, but many) because almost every man they meet wants to frick. So they "filter" the men they are not attracted to. And invest their time in the attractive guys that aren't creepy.

It's a normal human thing. You can't expect people to not have eyes or instincts. I doubt you are interested in talking to every single person around you all the time.

I stopped reading at your first sentence. I do not like the guy nor is he my type. I think men treating people who they deem unattractive cruelly is disgusting behaviour. (OP)

:dukenukemtldr:

Yes this is common with men unfortunately. I agree it's vile. It's a byproduct of them not seeing women as complete/real people.

This is not a gendered thing at all. If anything it's more prevalent in the opposite case. Attractive women also treat unattractive and average men with less respect and will avoid them. Average and unattractive men on the other hand tend to treat women who are in their own league with respect while average and unattractive women seem to have less respect for and avoid men in their own league.

Both are bad. All people should be treated equal no matter their appearance. But to claim this is common with men and not women is just dishonest. It is common for both genders but more common for women.

The OP could literally be a genderswapped post from an incel sub. Like this is a very stereotypical incel complaint. They often express frustration at this exact same phenomena though usually they are complaining about women in their own league (as opposed to much more attractive in the case of OP) not treating them with the same respect they treat attractive men. [jannied]

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. What the frick.

Incels = women only care about looks. I will never get a girlfriend (that I'm entitled to) 100% because of my looks. It has nothing to do with how I act. Women ONLY care about looks. I hate them all. Ropefuel.

OP = wow, has anyone else noticed that men ignore you when they don't find you attractive?

You are so fricking wrong, I can't even imagine how anyone could have made this insane leap. Work on your critical thinking skills - PLEASE. Think about what you're saying for more than one second.

I'm reporting your comment and I hope you get banned. These trash opinions need to stop being spewed everywhere., It's disguising. Go spew your shit to incels.

I'm sorry my statement enraged you so much that was not my intention at all. My statement was accurate. This post literally could be reposted, word for word, with only the genders swapped, and it would be a very normal post on an incel sub. I used to debate incels on purplepilldeabge and they made this identical complaint regularly. It was the thing they whines about more often than anything else.

It's understandable in both cases. Treating people with more or less respect based on their physical appearance is disgusting. No matter their gender. I genuinely do not understand why that angers you so much? No one should be treated with less respect because they are less attractive.

Please think about why my comment enraged you so much. All people deserve empathy no matter their gender. It's wrong when women are disrespected because they are deemed less attractive but it's also wrong when the same happens to men. It's sad that you guys can't empathize with eachother when dealing with the exact same experience.

Please do some introspection to see why me pointing this out pissed you off so much. You must have realized it was an accurate observation and just really wish that wasn't true. [jannied]

Lolol “my statement was very accurate”

Yeah… according to you, right?

Edit: Also, this is very mansplain-y

:marseywomanmoment:

Weird how much you complain about the male gaze and now that you don't have it...

:marseywrongthonk:

Please tell me you blew him off! In a very dismissive tone!

I'm too passive but I just gave him the same energy back, by avoiding him all night and not interacting with him. (OP)

:marseyindignant::!marseyindignantwoman:

I was going to say-also vile how they treat you when they find you attractive.

:marseysourgrapes:

Match that energy, ladies. I treat all men I meet like they are beneath me.👸

:marseynails:

Bonus threads by OP:

Have you guys ever dealt with hot and cold behaviour and then stalking you? During No Contact.

They never post the new girlfriend?

:marseynoooticer:

Does anybody else always feel awful seeing people live their perfect lives through social media?

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