dnd heroes drama has resurfaced once again
So you agree? The only reason abled people want disabled people to be cured ASAP is because they're "a liability", pretty much treating people like tools who need to prove their worthiness to exist by providing? https://t.co/5UyWdqETgA pic.twitter.com/UvMI7O8nSZ
— give me kynesis (@marysunshine_7) March 18, 2024
Once thought a meme, now an actual talking point for leftoids (I even seen one unironically post making a wheelchair dnd thing on heroesforge).
It's that thing once again, leftoids are trying to push a certain thing in a fantasy hobby that fits their political worldview of idealism that usually makes no sense and requires even more suspension of disbelief than roleplaying in a magic land with dragons and unicorns.
WHEEL 
CHAIR ACCESSIBLE DUNGEONS
WHERE IS THE ADA ON THIS?
Anyway there is plenty of "right wing extremist" dunking on the thread, so I picked some replies/subthreads from lefties since those are more interesting to read.
They WILL pull their weight because they ARE heroes, simple as that.
Complete with PF card for said wheelchair
Some friendly fire:
https://x.com/StrixObscuro/status/1769843234568638931
Few more choice pearlclutching.
https://x.com/OddishHime/status/1769994460786499808
https://x.com/AquamarineFB/status/1769858783075766663
Last time I read a thread on this I think the "adventureres wheelchair" I saw was something that basically couldn't be broken unless there were two crits against it, which makes you wonder why not every wagon and vehicle was made with this cheap wheelchair technology. These people can't even design something with some risk because they're so afraid of losing so they need an invulnerable wheelchair.
And why even a wheelchair? Learn to levitate or something. If you're a wheelchaired martial character just go home 
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Yet these bigots will still not accept the existance of the 2021 BMW 3-series with optional heated seats in the fantasy setting... curious.
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The existence of magic means that the only kind of disabled people who exist are those who cannot cure themselves, or refuse to be cured. If you can adequately explain that in character then you can play a cripple.
Literally nobody who wants a wheelchair PC because "muh representation" can do that though.
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Because there just aren't very many good explanations. Or at least, any that would satisfy this particular brand of weirdo.
In a world where healing magic exists and has always existed, there wouldn't be any strange subcultures around disabilities like deaf people have in real life, so no one would refuse to be healed for that reason. They're setting off on a dangerous journey, so no one would refuse because they just don't have any need for it. And if they did, that would change the first time their disability put them or their party in danger. And it's magic, so no one would refuse because they're worried about some kind of negative side effects. Well, not unless they're opposed to magical healing in general, like some kind of Dungeons & Dragons Jehovah's Witness. But that means other people around this character would judge them, the same way people in real life judge Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood transfusions.
You could have characters that haven't been able to be healed because they lack the resources, but that's not a refusal, it's being poor and/or isolated. Besides, as they continue on their journey, level up, acquire money and items, and meet new allies, they eventually will be able to heal themselves. Well, unless whatever is crippling them isn't natural, it's magical, and you'd need the strength of a god or something. But even then, the obvious outcome is that they get healed at the end of the journey, and these idiots don't want that, they want a character that starts crippled and ends crippled.
So that leaves us with a disability that can be healed by magic, and they have the resources to heal by magic, but they won't because they... see some need for the disability itself? They find it beneficial in some way, practically or psychologically? For practical reasons, it could be some kind of Daredevil situation. The disability makes something else about them stronger. But that's more like a monk making a vow of silence than being mute because you were born without a tongue, so it doesn't really fit what these people are looking for.
Which leaves psychological reasons. They could heal themselves, but doing so would be abhorrent to them. So abhorrent, they'd rather travel across the land with a group of people they might get killed than pop a magic pill. Aside from the aforementioned Jehovah's Witness analogue, the most obvious explanation is it's an acquired disability, not a hereditary or congenital one, and they're staying crippled as some sort of self-flagellation. But that requires the character and everyone around them to acknowledge that being disabled is a negative thing, which is exactly what these morons refuse to do.
There's really no explanation that would satisfy this particular brand of r-slur's ridiculous list of criteria. Which is exactly why they always just fall back on, "Have you tried being a better world-builder, bigot?" Because they're not a good enough character writer to realize the nonsense necessary to justify their bullshit.
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Why not? I can give my horse a magic Horse Revivor serum in a non-magical world, why can't your magical world do it?
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That unironically sounds cool. Cripple yourself to reach enlightenment and aquire neat monk powers.
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There would be; in a world where there's nobody deaf by accident of birth, it's a deliberate choice. It's a sacrifice, and therefore would be regarded as holy by religious nutters.
I stopped reading here btw because
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I explicitly addressed that with my Jehovah's Witnesses (religious nutters) and Daredevil (trade-off for super powers) comparisons. Shoulda kept reading.
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No thank you
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What?
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There's roleplaying games that do that. My favourite, Ars Magica - a game about being a wizard in 1220 AD Europe, has a whole bunch of disabilities you can take, freeing up more points that lets you get better at magic. The way it explains it is that it violates one of the two fundamental laws of magic, that of the Limit of Essential Nature. That magic can not permanently alter somethings true nature, only temporarily and for some people a disability is part of their essential nature.
Essentially you stay a cripple because God made you that way.
It's also a game where all the wizards are unlikable neurodivergentis by default. It's great fun.
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That actually sounds kinda fun
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I really like the spell creation system in Ars
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Can you combine the fireball spell with horrendous flatulence?
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It's unironically autism. if the game doesn't lay it out and have rules for it, then how does it work?!??!
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As was explained to me by the DM after i blinded someone, a cleric high enough in level to cure grevious injuries is prohibitively rare and expensive. So no it wasn't "no big deal" and he is going to spend his life getting revenge.
Most people will go their entire life never seeing a high level cleric or even someone with an adventure class unless they live in a city.
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Sure but anyone without access to a high level cleric and disabled isn't going to be an adventurer in a world as dangerous as D&D
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This is the flip side of the argument they don't bring up, why a party should include someone in a chair. We're going into the swamps, the mines, the dungeons, places where your disability is a real liability. Why does your character want to go, and why do the rest of the characters want to deal with the hassle?
But no, it's all just
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Probably because the implementation they'd all wanna use, the combat wheelchair, not only negates all of the downsides of being in a wheelchair but also buffs the player rather significantly (controlled via thought with a 30ft move and hover speed, immunity to difficult terrain, advantage against being knocked prone, and more).
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That is something that's also a consideration. That certain type of minmax g*mer who wants to have a flaw turned into a bonus so they get more points to spend. Definitely know a bunch of those. A lot of those types become less about the practical applications and more about 'in theory' when faced with disadvantages that are actually disadvantages.
But really you don't want to play with anyone making these arguments, no matter where they're coming from. All of the reasons they could be huffing and puffing about ableism and inclusivity might be different, but they're all indicative of someone anti-fun.
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The chair easily travels through all terrain
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Yeah, that's why a disabled person just wouldn't be an adventurer. They're supposed to be like Olympic level athletes.
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Not special olympic levels
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So just find and pay for a high level cleric.
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The economy of dnd is r-slurred.
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I played an alcoholic wizard. Money was never a problem for me
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Which is the issue. Players regularly have pocket change that's more than the gdp of a village.
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what if they traded the lower half of their body to an evil god in exchange for arcane powers
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Why would I want someone who thinks that's a reasonable idea in my party?
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Raistlin Majere intensifies
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And he betrayed the party
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It's the people who want the cripples to have exactly the same capabilities as normals who can't accept the existence of disabled people in their fantasy setting. It's not a disability if it doesn't affect your abilities. It's a fashion choice.
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I assume the chair is enchanted so it can float off stairs. In which case why even give it wheels? Are they emergency backup in case the magic goes out for some reason?
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