Going back to vague memories of childhood playing of the TSR computer games, after the level 3 fireball I think there's a level 4 meteor swarm? You didn't get it until level 9 or so, but by that point you could already silence a room and mandatory hit a whole bunch of d6 magic missiles.
Doesn't sound like much, but they couldn't miss and weren't mitigated by armour or defence, and you got a new missile every level. Mandatory damage every round adds up incredibly quickly, especially if they start getting d6+ modifiers.
Is it worse to be a wrong D&D nerd? I think it is. To be fair to me, I'm not really into systems and have been going by osmosis from games and others who are.
But am I wrong that it can build to be a very dangerous spell in its own level 1 right?
I haven't looked at 2nd edition DnD for years - and that is what the old DnD games (Spelljammer, Death Knights of Krynn, ...) used so not really sure what you can do with magic missiles. It does have the advantage that you don't need to roll to hit (no (ranged) touch attack) and immunity to force damage is quite rare.
In high level Pathfinder (1st edition, what I play) it's also not really useful. You can pump it up with metamagic but then you are using a higher spell slot which negates the "only lvl1 spell". You can add one metamagic though for free with metamagic rods, so not super bad. It also allows no saving throw (which makes it superior to most low level damage spells) since your spell DC doesn't increase with caster level only spell level. That said you honestly use low level spells for utility in high level play and not for combat.
It's iconic and has its usages in early & mid level play, but there are better ways to play a caster ;) Discern next of kin is way more fun to annoy your GM
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I think you could get rekt by rats and dogs and basically everything at level 1
Carrying the fricking sorceror until level 4 or 5 is painful
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Until 'linear fighter quadratic mage' kicks in, then you just have to hope they remember the little people.
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It's frickin true. I cant remember the spell but its meteors or smth and with the right min/maxing it does like100 d6
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Going back to vague memories of childhood playing of the TSR computer games, after the level 3 fireball I think there's a level 4 meteor swarm? You didn't get it until level 9 or so, but by that point you could already silence a room and mandatory hit a whole bunch of d6 magic missiles.
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Doesn't sound like much, but they couldn't miss and weren't mitigated by armour or defence, and you got a new missile every level. Mandatory damage every round adds up incredibly quickly, especially if they start getting d6+ modifiers.
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I was meaning you and being an neurodivergent dnd nerd.
Magic missile does d4 damage (+mod). You also don't gain a new missile every 2 level, not every level.
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Is it worse to be a wrong D&D nerd? I think it is. To be fair to me, I'm not really into systems and have been going by osmosis from games and others who are.
But am I wrong that it can build to be a very dangerous spell in its own level 1 right?
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I haven't looked at 2nd edition DnD for years - and that is what the old DnD games (Spelljammer, Death Knights of Krynn, ...) used so not really sure what you can do with magic missiles. It does have the advantage that you don't need to roll to hit (no (ranged) touch attack) and immunity to force damage is quite rare.
In high level Pathfinder (1st edition, what I play) it's also not really useful. You can pump it up with metamagic but then you are using a higher spell slot which negates the "only lvl1 spell". You can add one metamagic though for free with metamagic rods, so not super bad. It also allows no saving throw (which makes it superior to most low level damage spells) since your spell DC doesn't increase with caster level only spell level. That said you honestly use low level spells for utility in high level play and not for combat.
It's iconic and has its usages in early & mid level play, but there are better ways to play a caster ;) Discern next of kin is way more fun to annoy your GM
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