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adult human female

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Eve & dough this just kicks the question to "what is a female"

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do you know how humans reproduce?

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Hopefully the bioethicists stop clowning around and legalize cloning

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yeh, but how humans reproduce naturally!

if a male and a female frick (assuming they're healthy and she's at full egg carton age), they're pretty soon having a baby.

but a male can frick a male, or a female can frick a female, for 50 years 24/7 nonstop, and no baby will ever come of it.

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the fact that some females or males are infertile does not invalidate the reproduction-based definition of biological s*x. just like the existence of mutations, diseases, or injuries that cause some cats to only have three or fewer legs doesn't change the fact that cats are quadrupeds.

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you know all this, of course. it's not that you don't understand what a woman is. you just don't want it to be true.

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>the fact that some females or males are infertile does not invalidate the reproduction-based definition of biological s*x. just like the existence of mutations, diseases, or injuries that cause some cats to only have three or fewer legs doesn't change the fact that cats are quadrupeds.

This line of reasoning is the 'but i did have breakfast' of trans-exclusionary rhetoric. If you were making a casual statement of definition then yeah, 'women have XX chromosomes' is a mostly correct statement in the same vein as 'women are attracted to men' or 'women have testosterone levels below 50ng/dl'. But you're not making a casual statement, you're trying to draw a line in the sand that excludes everyone that doesn't cross it from the category "female". Since there are exceptions, the line is breached. Most cats have 4 legs, and it's mostly true to casually state 'cats have four legs', but 3 legged cats prove you dont need 4 legs to be considered a cat.

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who are you trying to convince with this? me or yourself?

Since there are exceptions, the line is breached.

no. the existence of a cat who got run over by a car and lost its front legs doesn't make cats bipeds. cats in principle are quadrupeds, they are born to be quadrupeds. only genetic defects, injuries, diseases can make them have any other number of legs than four, making such a cat a quadruped that lost some of its legs, not something else .

same with females and males: the latter are born to develop sperm cells. the former to develop egg cells that can be fertilized by those sperm cells, and with a womb to grow those into a baby.

how all this works in detail is not even relevant to the definition of male and female. isolated indigenous tribes who have never heard the concept of chromosomes or even egg cells, know exactly what a woman is and what a man is. there is no rational basis for confusion on this topic.

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>only genetic defects.... can make them have any other number of legs than four, making such a cat a quadruped that lost some of its legs, not something else .

A cat that was born with 3 legs never had a 4th leg to lose. Your line of reasoning fails here. Genetic mutations are foundation of evolution, so this is not a mere technicality

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cat that was born with 3 legs never had a 4th leg to lose.

a defective quadrupted. every part of its anatomy, behavior, instincts is designed (or rather: evolved) for life with with four legs.

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