I can disagree with Marx on his hard atheist materialism. He was mostly being edgy and hated the church. He was also wrong about revolution sprouting from the most developed countries.
That's why we have Marxism-Leninism. We also have Christian Communist countries like Nicaragua
Materialist monism isnt like just some feature of Marxism, and It is the core, and Within Marxism, the mode of production determines social and ethical behavior, and This is in direct conflict with Christian belief that social and ethical behavior are a product of Gods grace and that deviations from His plan are attributable to sin, and I suspect you will conflate the teleology of Marxist economic development with said plan, but this excuse neglects the fact that Marxism fundamentally relies upon changing the modes of production for its realization, rather than faith in God but go off i guess
Edit: the Queen award is pain in the butt when trying to have a serious discussion, lol but go off
When you have a satanic mode of production people behave satanically
There is no such thing as a sinful mode of production, and People sin, not economic processes, and Furthermore, in this statement you clearly treat the mode of production as the determinant of human behavior, which is in direct contradiction with Christian thought
Refer to my previous statement about Marx being able to be wrong
Rejecting the tenet that mode of production drives society is basically discarding Marxism altogether
I dont think you really understand Christian soteriology
there is no such thing as a sinful mode of production
Yes there is it's called capitalism it promotes sin and the worst parts of humanity and adulates this as good and just. Capitalism promotes godlessness.
i don't think you really understand christian soteriology
I don't need to know gay butt words to know that the way things are organized now is for satanic ends
Gods creation is good, and It is man that is sinful, and That you cannot understand the significance of this is an indication that you dont really understand the Christian theological framework, and Youre like just a Marxist-Leninist who wants to co-opt the Christian aesthetic and subordinate Christianity to your ideological agenda, and I dont think you are doing this intentionally, youre like just too ignorant to realize thats what youre doing
Modes of production promote behavior I never said Capitalism created sin
Changing the mode of production wont change mankind or sin, and The like only thing that can save mankind is salvation through faith in God
Your ideological stance is a form of idolatry because you implicitly privelege revolution and changing the mode of production over faith and prayer, and Your repeated fixation on and justification of the mode of production over mankinds inherently sinful nature is an indication of your lack of understanding and inadvertent idolatry, and You care primarily about changing the mode of production and you merely see Christianity as a means of achieving this change
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also like Materialist monism necessarily rejects the supernatural
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I can disagree with Marx on his hard atheist materialism. He was mostly being edgy and hated the church. He was also wrong about revolution sprouting from the most developed countries.
That's why we have Marxism-Leninism. We also have Christian Communist countries like Nicaragua
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Materialist monism isnt like just some feature of Marxism, and It is the core, and Within Marxism, the mode of production determines social and ethical behavior, and This is in direct conflict with Christian belief that social and ethical behavior are a product of Gods grace and that deviations from His plan are attributable to sin, and I suspect you will conflate the teleology of Marxist economic development with said plan, but this excuse neglects the fact that Marxism fundamentally relies upon changing the modes of production for its realization, rather than faith in God but go off i guess
Edit: the Queen award is pain in the butt when trying to have a serious discussion, lol but go off
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When you have a satanic mode of production people behave satanically
Refer to my previous statement about Marx being able to be wrong
Material Conditions + Faith = Changes in Mode of Production
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There is no such thing as a sinful mode of production, and People sin, not economic processes, and Furthermore, in this statement you clearly treat the mode of production as the determinant of human behavior, which is in direct contradiction with Christian thought
Rejecting the tenet that mode of production drives society is basically discarding Marxism altogether
I dont think you really understand Christian soteriology
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Yes there is it's called capitalism it promotes sin and the worst parts of humanity and adulates this as good and just. Capitalism promotes godlessness.
I don't need to know gay butt words to know that the way things are organized now is for satanic ends
学习雷锋好榜样忠于革命忠于党爱憎分明不忘本立场坚定斗志强立场坚定斗志强学习雷锋好榜样毛主席的教导记心上全心全意为人民共产主义品德多高尚共产主义品德多高尚
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Wrong, humans sin, not economic processes, and Furthermore, sin is a product of the Fall, not a mode of production
This is basic Christian belief
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Yes and Capitalism promotes more sin. "Soddom and Gamorrah aren't sinful cities they just have sinful people" -you
Modes of production promote behavior I never said Capitalism created sin.
You're arguing with shit I haven't said and what you do say doesn't counter what I say
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Gods creation is good, and It is man that is sinful, and That you cannot understand the significance of this is an indication that you dont really understand the Christian theological framework, and Youre like just a Marxist-Leninist who wants to co-opt the Christian aesthetic and subordinate Christianity to your ideological agenda, and I dont think you are doing this intentionally, youre like just too ignorant to realize thats what youre doing
Changing the mode of production wont change mankind or sin, and The like only thing that can save mankind is salvation through faith in God
Your ideological stance is a form of idolatry because you implicitly privelege revolution and changing the mode of production over faith and prayer, and Your repeated fixation on and justification of the mode of production over mankinds inherently sinful nature is an indication of your lack of understanding and inadvertent idolatry, and You care primarily about changing the mode of production and you merely see Christianity as a means of achieving this change
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