https://x.com/60Minutes/status/1792337978313802225
"We are all fundamentally good. Yes, there are some rogues and sinners, but the heart itself is good," says Pope Francis. https://t.co/MmLPBhWVU2 pic.twitter.com/7Be2GrKrdB
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) May 19, 2024
Bro, has the Pope even met people?
Does the Pope not realize that what goodnees he sees was hard-fought-for by his own church, and only possible by the grace of Our Lord as mediated by the Holy Spirit?
Does he not know that this is the good news that the gospels are named after?
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Oh wow, gee, the Pope of all people, his word infallible, his robes immaculate on his golden throne, would lead people astray from Christ?
That cannot be true.
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
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In b4 "it's not infallibility unless it comes from the ex cathedra region of the magisterium, otherwise it's just sparkling heresy"
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Nice.
https://rdrama.net/h/truth/post/270447/pope-says-people-are-fundamentally-good/6430746#context
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Look even if you disagree
with the doctrine at least argue against the doctrine people actually 
believe.
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Martin Luthor dumped a load of books from the Bible lol
"Removed in this way were books that supported such things as prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45), Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7), intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14), and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15). Ultimately, the "Reformers" decided to ignore the canon determined by the Christian Councils of Hippo and Carthage (and reaffirmed and closed at the Council of Trent4), and resort solely to those texts determined to be canonical by Pharisees long after the death and resurrection of Christ."
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https://www.fisheaters.com/septuagint.html
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I appreciate the source, I truly do.
So, if you examine what Luther did in his Biblical scholarship, he knew intrinsically something was amiss with contemporary theology. The mass politicking in the Church, the indulgences, the idolatry to Mary, things that if you were well versed enough in Medieval Christianity and an actual scholar, you'd be like, "Yeah that's weird." And you are right, Luther did look to the Pharisees about his source for the books in the Bible, because as we all know, the Bible is divided primarily into two books, the Old Testament and the New One. From your source:
Now, if the only problem Catholics have of the Protestant Bible is that it lacks parts of the Old Testament, why exactly would pull from some council of early Catholic churches that took place nearly 400-ish years after the Crucifixion, when you literally have the jews who witnessed Christ's crucifixion in living memory (The Pharisees dissolves in 73 AD, meaning their documentation of jewish texts is literally contemporary to Christ.) giving you the documentation on jewish literature?
Like, I get the reflexive "Jews killed Christ so they're probably misleading us" if they were tampering with accounts of the New Testament, but as your source says, Catholics and Protestants are aligned on the New Testament. But basically, Luther saw the sourcing for the Catholic Bible relying on Catholic sources for texts that seemed out of line for the Old Testament, and comparing it to the Pharisee's Tanakh, Luther felt that the Pharisees, the literal Rabbinical authority on judasim in the time of Christ being more accurate than that of a Catholic Diaspora on jewish texts contemporary to Jesus.
I'm certainly open to the rebuttal, and I'll probably call my grandfather Sunday and get his opinion. Probably won't be much debate, he's protestant too. But I welcome more sources and debate.
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Mommy is soooo proud of you, sweaty. Let's put this sperg out up on the fridge with all your other failures.
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Sorry
I don't feel like retyping but check 
my rebuttal
https://rdrama.net/h/truth/post/270447/pope-says-people-are-fundamentally-good/6430587#context
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Interdasting
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Its called the Deuterocanon. Jews also dont think its legit. Luther shoved these books into the apocrypha before that meant gnostic slop so if you have an old enough KJV its still in there.
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In the past before the Rabbis decided after the destruction of the Second Temple, which books they'll accept, there were many Jews that did accept many of the deutercanonical books, I mean it was Jews themselves who translated the Septuagint. Even among the Dead See Scrolls deutercanonical books were found.
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their non cannon status was determined by Jews after christs death.
I don't see the logic
in following their biblical 
cannon after the rejection 
of Christ. We split off from them for that very reason.
Same way it wouldn't make sense for a Protestant
to listen 
to the pope. Maybe he says something that you agree 
with maybe he doesn't but it is entirely irrelevant 
to you at that point.
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The Pharisees took out the Book of Maccabees because the Flavian Emperors pressured them in order to prevent inspiration for Jewish revolts iirc
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Cracks me up that a religion as simple as "bend the knee to Jesus" has managed to create so much confusion and strife. Clearly the Pope is wrong.
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The Church only considers the Pope infallible when he's speaking ex cathedra, which is not that common.
!catholics
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I want to like the Catholics, I really do, but then Papa Frank says something like this and later this week my YouTube feed will be filled with the Catholic apologists aCtUaLlY
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!Catholics it's just like the real PBS/NPR in every way.
Why on Earth, my fellow child, would you ever trust the duplicitous deceitful and demonic
@C-SPAN? !christians Pray with me.
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I hope you're not questioning papal infallibility, because you know, that would be against doctrine...
You must not watch a lot of C-SPAN if you're comparing them to PBS or NPR. First, C-SPAN is not a publicly funded entity as their primary revenue, it's cable dues as stipulated by Congress.
Secondly, most of the time you won't know the C-SPAN anchor's names because that would distract from their interviewees, such a politicians, lawyers, and other scholars. It's pretty open access, and has a toll free number to call if you disagree with one of the casters, and if you're lucid they will patch you on and hear you out.
If free thought like that sounds demonic to you, I can offer you some indulgences so you can buy your way into Christ's Grace.
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!catholics
@C-SPAN doesn't understand the nature, scope, and historical basis of Papal infallibility. Color me surprised. 
You're uninformed, unintelligent, and unworthy of further regard prior to repentance. Your presence on this website serves only to sow racial and religious resentment. You have never engaged in an honest manner with followers of Christ or political dissidents. I pray that you find Our Lord Jesus Christ and change your ways.
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Wow I really must be on a reddit clone to already be accused of arguing in bad faith.
I've just never met a tradcath that can defend their religion on any basis except reflexively screeching in my direction followed by an insincere offer of prayer.
I'd actually discuss this with you if you're serious, but if you're just an alt of
@literalp-dophile I'm probably not interested.
!metashit whose alt is this?
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!Catholics !Christians this organ of state propaganda thinks he can stand before the generations of theologians and believers before us. He's a dumb racist agendaposter, an adherent to the darkest depths of !metashit -ery our site has to offer, and has never once posted an original or insightful comment upon our Blessed
forum. I accept his offer to discuss, knowing full well he has nothing new to offer. Sidevote this "man".
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is this the real cspan how do i sidevote im so confused
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ew christcuck
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Where is your hijab? Do you simply live in the West, adopt our Christian values, yet denigrate the basis upon which they are formed?
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Okay, I give
@C-SPAN an upmarsey. Thanks!
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I only sidevote papists, sorry
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The Pope was mad that his Papal States were no more, and it was inevitable that Italy will take Rome too to have is it as their capital. So he decided that what he says will now be infallible, sure only when he says it "ex cathedra", but he can just choose to say whatever he wants "ex cathedra".
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Wrong. Plus I'm arguing against one of our prolific chudposters, are your values primarily anti-Catholicism or anti-Chud?
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Primarily anti-chud, I still don't like that Pope who kidnapped that Jewish boy, and called the First Vatican Council so they declare him infallibale.
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You know that child became a priest and an advocate of the faith despite ample opportunity to seek secular refuge? I can understand dismissing his witness as "brainwashing", but he chose his path in life.
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God isn't real btw and Jesus
was just a very successful cult leader.
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