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EFFORTPOST Russian game devs "alter the deal", gaymers rise up

Escape From Tarkov is an extraction shooter developed by Russian studio BattleState Games (BSG). It's somehow been in "beta" for 8 years. Players enter a game, find loot or kill players/AI and take their loot, then if they can exit the map they keep the loot.

:#marseykyle:

The game has a weird monetisation model. The developers promised no microtransactions, no pay 2 win, the usual stuff that makes gaymers smile. Instead the base edition is $50, going all the way up to the Edge of Darkness edition at something like $150. What do you get for that? Basically extra space to store items between games and a season pass for all future DLC.

:#marseysoyswitch:

A few months ago BSG stopped selling Edge of Darkness and suggested they'd offer the features to other players as microtransactions instead. G*mers were less than pleased, but it all blew over in a few weeks.


Arena

Meanwhile, BSG released a seperate standalone game called Arena, which is basically a Team Deathmatch mode for Tarkov aimed at being an esport. Like most "esports ready" slop it flopped, probably because Tarkov doesn't do balance. There are good guns and shit guns, it's ultra realistic. Guy with the better gun and better bullets always wins.

:#marseygamer:

So, 8 years after initial release BSG dump their money into a new, failed game. It's given out for free to Edge of Darkness owners as a "DLC" but still fails. People suspect that this might mean that BSG is running out of money.


PvE

Perhaps the biggest thing the players want is a non-PVP mode. A big part of this is because the game is hard and most players suck, but to be fair Tarkov also has a massive cheater problem.

I mean massive btw, cheaters can see every item in each game. If you enter a raid carrying good gear, the 3-5 cheaters in each map will immediately charge you down for it without fail. BSG supposedly bans these players but does little to stop it, probably because most cheaters sell rare items for real world cash and use the profits to buy a new copy every week. That said, it's been worse in the past. There were times when cheaters could just teleport all the loot in the game straight to them. Fun.

:#marseythegrey:

So naturally, players really want to get away from the cheating and play offline. BSG insists it's not possible, although somehow modders were able to reverse-engineer things and create their own Single Player Tarkov (SPT) mod. Someone is lying there, I can't tell who.

:#marseyshrug:


Unheard Edition

This week BSG announced a new edition of Escape from Tarkov - Unheard Edition. In this you get all the Edge of Darkness features plus a special knife, woo.

Just kidding, alongside the knife you also get a character with bigger pockets to carry more stuff in game, extra gear and a bunch of other utilities. Naturally gaymers are mad about these more blatant Pay 2 Win features. It's not too bad though, right?

:#marseysoyhype:

To sweeten the deal these paypigs also get access to a new coop pve mode. Yay! The devs insist that this isn't DLC, but a unique game mode. Edge of Darkness players don't get it.

:#marseyputin:

Oh, and they get a special item which makes the AI not shoot at them.

The best part? The new edition costs

$250

Cue rage.

:#soysnooseethe:


Drama

The Reddit jannies open the flood gates and promise to be less neurodivergent than usual. Just don't use naughty words.

The devs have been caught repeatedly editing the website to remove promises they just broke. At this point you can just look at /r/escapefromtarkov and see a dozen threads full of seethe.

Highlights:

Big seethe thread

Lawsuits incoming

The devs give in and offer Edge of Darkness owners a 6 month trial of PvE mode. Redditors even madder.

:#marseylaughpoundfist:

The lead developer gives an interview where he shits on all the complainers, apparently "True Believers" will buy the new version.

Oh, and you know how Edge of Darkness players got a "season pass" for DLC?

"No dlc planned"

:#marseytroll:


This is ongoing. Will BSG give in or let it all blow over? Only time will tell.

Update

BSG studio head doubles down again. PvE for Edge of Darkness will come later, for now you're paying for a preview before full release. They're also going to offer a 50% discount on upgrades for top tier paypigs. Oh, and if you already paid full price you can have a second game key for the shit-tier edition, but you're not allowed to sell that.

Redditors are still mad

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God darn i was gonna post this. Fricking work.

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!nooticers :marseypizzashill: directly supported :marseyputin: conquest of Ukraine with his American coinage.

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HEY, Fatty! Don't forget to exercise today.

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Work

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You're fat

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i thought you quit

did they hire you back

new job?

dirt on poj?

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Excellent post, been meaning to write one up on this trainwreck. They are MAD.

You didn't even mention that this is a Russian dev and all transactions are handled by them (no steam), so the paypigs who were blatantly lied to about the $150 package that they bought years ago have absolutely zero recourse to get their money back

The cosmetic knife that comes with the new paypig edition is an off the shelf asset flip skin that they bought on unity store :marseyxd:

EFT has some genius mechanics and is actually an excellent game with the exceptions of some inexplicable design decisions. If they fixed the cheaters it would have been as popular as PUBG was, but instead they choose to do whatever this is

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Problem is that preventing cheating will harm their income. Most new sales are banned item sellers at this point, so there's a status quo of sorts.

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EFT has some genius mechanics and is actually an excellent game with the exceptions of some inexplicable design decisions.

Classic eurojank, ambition, interesting mechanics and vibe, mixed in with some poor ideas and bad execution.

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Can't people file chargebacks? Arguably worse for the dev because if enough people do it the card processors can ban the account from taking transactions

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You can't chargeback half a decade later. Their only route is to sue, but unsurprisingly the non-Russian entities they're paying are shell companies with no actual assets.

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Fair enough. I haven't heard of this game til recently so I assumed it was newer than that lol

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They're already banned from most western banks lmao

Most of these paypigs paid 5+ years ago and almost certainly aren't getting their money back

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Funny thing is that, if you were to weigh time played against the cost of the game, EFT is actually pretty efficient, at least compared to other MMOs. The old $150 paypig edition is generally considered to be the baseline for serious players as you'd pay more than that for a single year of any major MMO subscription. Of course, it became a limited commodity once the paypig edition was discontinued, though still very widespread, and now that we have this abomination only time will tell whether the community eventually gets over it and keeps paying up or not. Because, honestly, there's nothing else you can play that does what Tarkov does.

Luckily nothing will change for the legacy 'pigs, things continue as usual and the only difference is that now shitters will have more loot to steal, lmao. Script kiddies and streamers have been doing their best to make the game unplayable for years, and nothing given by the new paypig edition is worse than what cheaters already do, so realistically nothing will change except redditor/chinlet scav mains throwing a tantrum.

>muh ethics in vidya! muh mtx! :soysnoo4:

pipe down Junior and hold still for me.

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Because, honestly, there's nothing else you can play that does what Tarkov does.

what exactly is that because it sure as heck doesn't look all that unique compared to the millions of shooters out there

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It has a unique vibe idk, very ambient but with more horror than most horror games.

It's neat

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The gun autism metagame is unparalleled. BSG is meticulous about getting licenses for their guns, so you're not using an EK-47 or some other token knock-off, you're playing with actual fully modeled AKs, using actual realworld AK gun mods, etc. It shines best with the Western guns, being able to fully trick out an M4 or one of the many mankiller 308 platform guns in the game is really not something you will find in any other game.

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Let's be real though, half of the gun mods aren't significantly different from the others. Sure, you have a few dozen foregrips licensed, but why? There's no tangible benefit to half of the item bloat.

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:marseyshrug: the only gun mods I do in tarkie is put 5 flashlights onto the end of a shotgun, then spam them on and off at fellers while screeching through the mic.

It's only a little more fun than going in naked with just a knife :marseyretardchad:

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For whatever reason people aren't really answering your question.

The number one thing that sets it apart is that it was the first shooter to take the "one life no respawns" idea to the extreme by adding a meta inventory. So any gear you take in will be lost forever if you die. Imagine grinding hours to buy a cool weapon and then you're in constant danger of losing it (and all of that grind went to waste). Or scoring a lucky kill on some no-lifer and taking all of his sweet shit that he grinded for.

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Tbh I don't think they're going to just get over it this time. Larger pockets was a hard sell, but immunity to scavs plus PvE mode has really pissed the paypigs off.

To some extent I get BSG's position, they've had no income for 8 years beyond cheaters buying new accounts, but no game should be in early access for that long to begin with.

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Larger pockets is beyond broken. You can run magazine based rifles without a vest which is a huge buff for budget runs. The "scav runs on main" item is just beyond broken though. I wouldn't be surprised if they added it as ragebait so that they can later remove it and have people ignore the fact that this new addition is like a 20 hour head start on every wipe.

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Mods allow people to have fun for the first time and post about the things they want to talk about, Redditors praise them.

The absolute nanny state of Reddit

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The EFT mods are unusually bad even for Reddit. Until relatively recently pretty much everything was banned. No complaining about cheating, no screenshots, no suggestions... Pretty much only streamer clips could be posted.

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/r/minecraft has a similar situation, posts related to mods or specific servers are removed for advertising/being "off-topic", but fanart gets thousands of upmarseys.

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DID YOU JUST POST A HECKIN SINOPHOBIA???? :marseycatgirljanny:

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No escape from micro transactions

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!g*mers new Russian :marseyazov: devs finding new ways to fund Ukrainian :marseyazov2: Invasion :marseyufo:

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:npcsupportoppose:

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But surely War Thunder isn't funding the Russians :#marseyclueless:

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Russian Devs in F2P or semi F2P games are always willing to piss off the player base at every chance lmao. Gaijin is the same way with War Thunder though I have heard they have actually been getting a less egregious with their bs in the last year.

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I don't get it :marseyshrug: Surely have a reputation against cheaters and hacks would entice people to try out your game?

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hey, 'member when every time you bought a game the beta was already done by the japs and if the japs wanted to make more money from the franchise, they had to make us a whole new game? :marseyboomer:

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Being a racist loser that makes fun of racist losers doesn't make you any less of a racist loser. Pretending you're too stupid to understand how you spend your free time doesn't make it any less pathetic to spend your free time that way.

Snapshots:

Escape From Tarkov:

Unheard Edition:

open the flood gates:

/r/escapefromtarkov:

Big seethe thread:

Lawsuits incoming:

6 month trial:

an interview:

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>playing a Russian game

Gaymers get what they deserve

Trans lives matter

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Never trust slavs. :marseyxd:

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