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Safrica mentioned 
Air italy buffed further 
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I have a cunning plan. Not going dibs on any of the majors, you guys pick whatever you want. I'll go a major like France/Canada if I need to.
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Also again, not norway man
Every norway is one less real nation, say you do hold as norway, nothing happens cuz zero industry 
Just some thoughts 
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Norway has a democratic path that makes it stronger than e.g. Romania, but yeah it doesn't work if there's nobody on USA or France.
I can do France.
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Not it doesn't lol, romania starts with 3 times the factories and gets civboosted to the moon from oil trade while also having way more manpower, it also has the fastest fighter 2 rush. I don't think you realize just how powerful the central european minors are. and hungary is also getting a new tree remember.
Well sure, but I'd still advise you to probably do a different minor since they do lose a lot in vanilla when capping.
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Do you know the focus I'm talking about? Gives you wargoals on Denmark + Sweden and you form Scandinavia. It's at least in the same ballpark as Romania
Regardless I'm not going for that if the majors aren't filled
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You don't get to do that in MP lol, and even if you did, with that level of ahistorical germany would just r*pe you
Remember, you're not up against the stupid AI. Assume you only have what you start with or get historically. It's an MP game, not an RP game. 
Also funniest part, you would still have less industry than romania, and would have wasted so much focus time on stupid alt hist stuff they would just r*pe you from the air.
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What's fun about fighting a no-supply war with the AI just to get r*ped by someone who played sensibly? The fun in MP is that your opponent isn't braindead and can counter micro/macro
HOI4 isn't about map painting, unlike say EU4.
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