!hoi4 Göttedämmerung in 3.5 hours, patch note time!

Some interesting changes :marseyhandmaid:

Notable balance stuff

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17315918511048486.webp

Safrica mentioned :marseyletsfuckinggo2: :marseysheep2: :parrotsouthafrica:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1731591851168327.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17315918512224872.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1731591851270898.webp

Air italy buffed further :trollclosedmouth:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17315918513172812.webp

Subs nerfed

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17315918513710508.webp

Japanbros,

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17315918514194686.webp

.. no more planes

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Also again, not norway man :marseygiveup: Every norway is one less real nation, say you do hold as norway, nothing happens cuz zero industry :marseyxd: Just some thoughts :marseyhandsup:

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Norway has a democratic path that makes it stronger than e.g. Romania, but yeah it doesn't work if there's nobody on USA or France.

I can do France.

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>Norway has a democratic path that makes it stronger than e.g. Romania

Not it doesn't lol, romania starts with 3 times the factories and gets civboosted to the moon from oil trade while also having way more manpower, it also has the fastest fighter 2 rush. I don't think you realize just how powerful the central european minors are. and hungary is also getting a new tree remember.

>I can do France.

Well sure, but I'd still advise you to probably do a different minor since they do lose a lot in vanilla when capping.

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>Not it doesn't lol

Do you know the focus I'm talking about? Gives you wargoals on Denmark + Sweden and you form Scandinavia. It's at least in the same ballpark as Romania

Regardless I'm not going for that if the majors aren't filled

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You don't get to do that in MP lol, and even if you did, with that level of ahistorical germany would just r*pe you :marseyxd: Remember, you're not up against the stupid AI. Assume you only have what you start with or get historically. It's an MP game, not an RP game. :marseyfreud:

Also funniest part, you would still have less industry than romania, and would have wasted so much focus time on stupid alt hist stuff they would just r*pe you from the air.

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>You don't get to do that in MP

:woj#aknofunallowed:

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What's fun about fighting a no-supply war with the AI just to get r*ped by someone who played sensibly? The fun in MP is that your opponent isn't braindead and can counter micro/macro :marseyfatrick: HOI4 isn't about map painting, unlike say EU4.

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>HOI4 isn't about map painting

:marseysmug2: sure it isn't

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There really is something off with some of you neighbors and your love of fake nations

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Try map painting in MP and what yourself get r*ped by volunteers and embargoes :marseyxd:

HOI4 has gameplay and good micro unlike EU4, it discourages map painting as you lose out on a massive amount of industry and scaling in doing so, it's literally not a map painter, you can play it like one in single player because the AI is r-slurred, but when your opponent has a brain, it's just not possible.

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