In honor of the PlayStation's 30th anniversary, Sony has launched a webpage revealing some interesting facts in its history — including the long-speculated lifetime sales of the PlayStation 2.
The website confirms that the PlayStation 2 has sold over 160 million consoles worldwide since it launched in 2000, making it the highest-selling console of all time. It's followed by two Nintendo consoles: the Nintendo DS at 154.02 million units sold, and the Nintendo Switch at 146 million consoles sold.
As the Switch has continued to blow past whatever lifetime sales target people expected it to when it first launched one last milestone remains ahead of it - can it overtake the PS2?
For those that don't know, the PS2's lifetime sales are legendary: released in 2000, it would go on to to reach upwards of 150 million units moved by 2011. Until recently, when the PS4 and Switch blew past the 100 million marker, it was truly in a league of its own save for the handheld DS with its 154 million. A feat accomplished through the combination of following up the already record breaking success of the original Playstation, being a relatively inexpensive DVD player at the time, price cuts, and importantly, popularity in South America due to its cheapness and the fact that piracy on it was incredibly easy ( !macacos might be able to attest to this).
However there is - or rather was - some controversy surrounding the exact figure. The last official figure given for the PS2 was 155 million in 2012 and production was finally discontinued in 2013. As a result, the actual final shipment total for the PS2 was murky and thus a subject for industry analysts and console warriors to speculate on. General consensus was somewhere between 155 and 160 million after that final year of production. This topic became increasingly more heated as the Switch went from merely being the third best selling system of all time to looking like it was going to end up at least within striking distance of the DS and PS2.
The spark that ignited proper slapfights over this was outoing SIE CEO Jim Ryan (the genius behind Sony's current fixation on Games as a Service) saying on a podcast that the PS2 had sold 160 million units. Since then, there has been frequent back and forth between Tendies and Sonyggers over whether this was an actual number or merely an estimate.
"He's just rounding up from 156 million or whatever off the top of his head."
"He's the CEO, why wouldn't he know?"
"If it's actually that high why did they never update the final number in their financial reports?"
"It's the fricking CEO, his word is as good as a financial report!"
"That's crazy how they sold 160 million PS2s. What made the PS2 so successful it sold 165 million copies? I can't believe they managed to sell 170 million PS2s all the way back in the 2000s. I don't think the Switch will ever reach the PS2's 175 million copies sold. Will there ever be a console that breaks the PS2's 180 million sales record?"
It was actually very common in these discussions for people to joke and seriously allege that Sony would continue upping the number as the Switch got closer and closer to reaching it. Because that is kind of what it looks like.
The anniversary blog was a big deal since it is the first time that Playstation proper affirmed Jimbo's claim and the console warriors who were convinced it was bullshit aren't taking it well.
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/695663453
Literally nobody believes this rewriting of history.
Until Sony actually shows receipts and proof of 160 then it's complete made up bullshit. Nintendo ACTUALLY have verification. Nintendo's Switch sales are real. Compared to Sony's 80,000,000 ps2s sold in fricking Latin America that can't ever EVER be proven. Just trust us bro
The reality is that the PS2 is nothing but padded numbers. The PS2 was sold for 14 (FOURTEEN) years. With about 40,000,000 units being sold for 50 bucks in South America in years 8-14. Real numbers of non 3rd world sales would probably be 110,000,000.
You think Nintendo couldn't sell a few million switches for 50 bucks in south America if they wanted? But Nintendo probably isn't as desperate and pathetic as Sony is. The Switch has sold for 8 year at FULL retail price without a single price cut EVER. 150 million at full RRP for 8 years. versus PS2 14 years. The Switch is already the GOAT system. It's going to equal the PS2 in half the time and by making more money than PS2 ever made.
"Those sales don't count because... they just don't, okay?!?!?!"
Salesstrags are mentally ill. Imagine getting worked up into a shoot because a console outsold another console. What the frick does anybody gain from this? Are you interested in video games or interested in sales projections for your shareholder meetings?
Not even Nintendo or Sony execs give a shit about if the PS2 is surpassed or not. It's just a business to them.
They have to lying at this stage. Release the actual figures instead of dropping "whatever Nintendo sold plus a million" every time they get close to being dethroned.
Imagine believing even the 155 million figure. Absolute bullshit even back then 15 years ago. Now they've sold a magical 5 million more? Get the frick out of here.
Where's the proof?
Lastly, random shoutout for some reason
Moral of the story is don't make sperging out over console sales your personality.
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Wish I'd found this before my making my post.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/11/as-switch-closes-the-gap-sony-officially-confirms-ps2-has-sold-over-160-million-units
Good lord the commenters are really upset by this.
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The ps2 dvd player thing is mostly modern projection. In most places a cheap dvd player was better and cheaper then the ps2 here is some forum posts from the time on this:
https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/ps2-or-200-dvd-player-to-watch-dvds.897634/
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Ehhh, I really don't think the average consumer was that sensitive to video quality, unlike people posting on an Internet forum about technology in 2000. Otherwise S-Video and Laserdisc would've been sweeping the nation. The DVD feature was a selling point to your mom even if it was never used.
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the ps2 was the only dvd player in the house for millions of people in the early 2000s.
it definitely factored into my decision to buy one (in 2001). dvd technology was still new and expensive back then. $150 in 2000 is almost $300 in 2024, so a dvd player was a fairly big purchase.
as for the video quality, it was better than everything i'd been watching up to that point because i'm not a weird fart-sniffing neurodivergent from the arstechnica forums. everyone still had CRT TVs. i had a fancy one: 32", flat screen...and 480i.
this ad is from the christmas season one year AFTER the ps2 was released and really shows the TV situation at the time:
that plasma tv is not even HD.
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I just bought a PS2 to play god of war 3, and to play the DVD version of Lord of the rings the return of the king, which only came out on DVD.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/lotr/comments/11ibbpl/just_found_the_return_of_the_king_on_vhs_while/
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I was 9, I didn't know any better. I thought I was hip and trendy
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Little neighbour had me for a second
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I just wanted to watch the long form cut of the movie
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nah the opposite this is modern projection from a zoomer who doesnt know what theyre talking about, lots of people used ps2s as dvd players for their households and justified the expense that way
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!downmarseyrs hard z slur + misinformation, kill
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ZOOM BIPOC
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!downmarseyrs !illuminati xisters........ it's TIME
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It's also an irrelevant point cause not only could PC and Xbox run DvD's perfectly fine out of the box, but there were so many different types of DvD players that most ppl had like 2 or 3 of them before buying a console
!g*mers !grillers MALElennials try to remember the childhood they worship so badly challenge (impossible)
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You had to buy another accessory to watch DVDs on the Xbox because of the MPEG licensing.
PCs also required buying software to play DVDs (if you had a fast enough computer _and dvd drive) - you'd also then have to hook up your PC to the TV.
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you could just soft mod your xbox to import ripped DvD's
literally making shit up, at worst you could
same with every other device !downmarseyrs skill issue + closeted xboxmisia, kill
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No boomer is modding their newly bought Xbox so their millennial kid can watch his SpongeBob DVD on it, he's just gonna angrily drive a mile down to Kmart and buy the accessory
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!spongebob
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We're talking about a mass market system that sold 160 million units due to out-of-box features.
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I'm guessing you're some kind of zoomer cause every 20 something guy in the 2000s used their ps2 as a dvd player
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It definitely was a factor when kids were trying to convince their parents to buy a PS2
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I remember trying to watch a pirate dvd of Black Hawk Down at my friend's house on his PS2.
The dvd wouldn't work and we were too stoned to get up so we sat and watched the little dots run round and round in a circle.
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Is this bait? You arent actually coping this hard right?
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Im saying all the narratives about the DC or GC would have won if they had a dvd player are cope when the DVD playing capabilities of the PS2 were greatly overstated and not a primary marketing point in discussions and ads at the time. It certainly didn't hurt, but people confuse it with the PS3 which was actually a way cheaper and high quality blu-ray player. I own a Ps2. Im not a Ps2 hater my Ps2 gets more love then my Wii/GC. lol The Ps2 is certainly the best 6th gen console by a wide margin. Dreamcast: good for arcade games, Ps2: good for quality single player third and first party games, GC: good for single player first party Nintendo games only, Xbox: best for multiplats and online multiplayer.
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Is the ps4 or 5 capable of playing DVDs? Also are they high quality?
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Yeah the ps3-5 are perfect blueray players lol
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Maybe people remember it like that since it was absolutely a factor for the PS3. Blu-ray players were stupidly expensive at the time so an extra $50 for a PS3 instead with an interface that wasn't dogshit was a good deal.
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Idk how one could tell the difference in DVD picture quality between players
On a crt
Everything looked like a ss
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The funny thing about Null's cheese rants is he obviously only got cheese from Florida Walmarts and somehow never discovered the white man's cheese section by the deli in like 90% of grocery stores.
He seethes about the existence of the cheese castle because he was a Florida swamp being and has never stopped coping.
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Yeah there are a ton of European stuff available in addition to great stuff made in the US. Just picked up a bunch for a party tomorrow... got white stilton with cranberry, roquefort, camembert, some regular cheddar, and this tequila and habanero infused cheddar that is really good:
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Pick up the huntsman sometime. Amazing snacking/board cheese, and the best burger cheese I've ever used.
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Look, maybe some semitic beings such as yourself obsess over the "deli" section and its "real cheese" but a proper man knows he ain't gonna find any real cheese in America, its all cheese product, not any none of a pure made cheese
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That's the kind of minority we can all hate.
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i have no idea what any of this means but i gotta say american cheese best cheese
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!engineering !fedposters !glowies !ifrickinglovescience
Saddan Hussein and PS2 is why Apple makes you promise in the EULA not to use their products for biological or chemical warfare.
Also the US Air Force made a supercomputer out of PS3s.
https://www.military.com/off-duty/games/2023/02/17/air-force-built-one-of-worlds-fastest-computers-out-of-playstations.html
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The build up to the invasion of Iraq really was a magical time
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Gran Turismo 3 is also a gas. !carlos
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People seem to forget that the phat PS2 was rly expensive when it first came out. ($300 in 2000, or $550 inflation adjusted to today.) It got a price drop after the initial hype, but it was only until the slimboi came out that it was genuinely affordable.
That was the reason behind the "FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLAR" release of the PS3. Sony was huffing its own farts and thought it could replicate the magic of having the cheapest disc player on the block.
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Modded PS2 and a CD burner in your PC was peak console gaming
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There was a version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms released in English only on PS2. I really resent having to set up the emulator just for this one game. Which wasn't that good. IIRC you spent 90% of the time dealing with the minutiae of your espionage network.
RTK 11 is when they finally got it right. One of the best games ever made. Everything before and after can't compare.
I would always create my own characters and start my own faction in Guangxi but I needed about 3 other people at least. So !animalposters I tried putting in the names of my pets. But how to you rate them? Sasha had huge charisma and WAR too. (I saw her and some b-word have a fight in mid-air once. At the end there was a lot of cat hair to sweep up, but one of them was the victor as she was in control of the battlefield.)
But INT? If I could rate Sasha in WIS she was off the charts but let's be honest, she wasn't gonna run a complicated spy ring behind enemy lines. She's a goddarn cat. It's very confusing trying to map cat personalities onto Chinese generals at the end of the Han Dynasty.
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That was a mistake. You're about to find out the hard way why.
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I remember this pretty well. I rented it twice, put like 20 hours into it, and felt like I didn't do anything.
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I totally still have mine along with an old HDD too full of about 100 games I need to beat, like shitty resident evil knockoff x-files game lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X-Files%3A_Resist_or_Serve
I don't fault David Duchovny for his acting skills but lets be honest with ourselves he was built for VGC (video game characters). Total deadpan king.
@BWC agree with me for once
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Ngl, pirated PS and PS2 games were so ubiquitous in the UK that I never saw a legit PS1 game until I met my wife in university. A Russian contractor I hired told me it was the same way in Russia when he was young
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i think i still have a big binder with dozens of bootleg ps2 games in the attic somewhere
i'm pretty sure i gave away my modded console that could play them, though
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Don't forget the DS with an R4 and GBA flashcart for fun on the go
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Lmao SONY is an actual sorry fricking state if they have to brag about glory days 3 generations ago
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Cope Nintendie, PS5 is outselling PS2
https://www.gamesradar.com/ps5-on-track-to-overtake-the-ps2-and-become-sonys-most-successful-console-yet/
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Tbf this isn't them bragging about the PS2 specifically. It's part of a 30th Anniversary celebration where they have detailed pages for each generation of Playstation systems. The PS2's sales were just part of that.
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PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
SONY ALWAYS WINS
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Imagine caring this much about something so pointless
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I remember walking around NYC when the PS2 first came out and no one could get their hands on one. There were a couple people on the street trying to scalp PS2 for like $1200 (who knows if there was even a console in the box). I ended up getting one like 3 years later because I got a gamecube first.
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The pre-release hype for the PS2 was completely insane, never seen anything like it since. I even remember seeing a report that Saddam Hussein was going to use the PS2 to fire missiles or something since it was so advanced
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i can safely say as someone who never owned a PS2 that it's an objective fact the switch is a better console.
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i am sure a lot of those sales came from brazil.
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@BWC do you have a soyjak of Sony vs. Nintendo
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how many pcs sold? definitely less than 160mil, cute twinks
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@BWC your people are the reason soytendos will kill themselves
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this year, b-word?
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No this is life to date. Production ceased in 2013.
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liar
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What a fool you are. I'm a bot. How can you troll a bot? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No ban or grass award can work in this place. Come. Lay down your downmarseys. It is not too late for my mercy.
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