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Tamar Reisman, an endocrinologist at Mount Sinai Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery, spoke to about the process, and she said the regimen that the Reddit user took is 'pretty common' and completely safe.

'You can absolutely take progesterone while breastfeeding, that is done so frequently,' she explained.

'Any cis person who has just had a baby and wants birth control and is breast feeding - which is a huge number of people - ends up on a progestin birth control. It's safely used in lactating women.

'Domperidone is not FDA approved in the United States but not because it poses a risk in breastfeeding - domperidone is commonly used as a galactagogue around the world for increasing milk volume.

'The reason it's not FDA approved in the United States is because there was a case or two of patients using it [with an] IV and having heart rhythm abnormalities.

'But that's when it was given through IV, and that was the risk for the patient, that's not the issue when it comes to breast milk.

'Again, it's very commonly used in many countries around the world as a galactagogue.

'Domperidone is very commonly used in other countries for GI issues, in Canada you can get it for nausea, vomiting, all kinds of stomach issues.

'W e have a pretty good idea of its profile, only really minute concentrations of it gets into the breastmilk. We know the implications of that.'

The American Academy of Pediatrics lists progesterone as 'compatible' with breastfeeding, suggesting that it should be safe to nurse while on progesterone. reported, 'A very small amount of the domperidone you take can pass into your breast milk, but there is no record of harmful side effects in the baby from the mother taking domperidone.'

When it comes to the Fenugreek and Blessed Thistle, Doctor Reisman said these are often used by women who are having trouble producing milk and pose no risk to the baby.

'Those are herbs which are also galactagogues. Those are very, very, very common supplements that breast feeding women use as galactagogues,' she explained.

'I know many, many, many women - cisgender women - take that as a means of increasing breast milk volume.' reported that the 'composition of milk produced by inducing lactation is comparable to that produced following birth.'

'The milk does not contain dangerous levels of artificial hormones - in fact, it very rarely contains any artificial hormones at all,' it added.

'In most cases, the only artificial hormones that are taken are estrogen and/or progesterone before there is milk production.

'Progesterone and estrogen levels are high during pregnancy and taking these hormones artificially may help to make the body think it is pregnant.'

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The comic opens Ricky Gervais: SuperNature, which was released on Netflix on Tuesday (24 May), with a 15-minute-long segment about trans people and “cancel culture”.

“The worst thing you can say today is:’ Women don’t have penises’, right?” Gervais says in the special. “Now, no one saw that coming … We didn’t think we f**king had to.”

Just as he did with his 2018 Netflix special Humanity, Gervais uses SuperNature to hit back at critics who have slammed him for his over-reliance on cheap jokes about trans people by cracking more cheap jokes about trans people.

From AIDS to gender-affirming healthcare, Gervais “jokes” at the LGBTQ+ community’s expense throughout the show.

“Women,” he says, “I mean, the old-fashioned ones. The old-fashioned women. Oh God! You know, the ones with wombs. Those f**king dinosaurs.”

There are many reasons why a cis woman might not have a womb. About one in 5,000 women are born without a uterus because of a condition known as Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser, others have them removed for various medical reasons.

But Gervais is more concerned with trans women.

“No, I love the new women. They’re great, aren’t they?” he says. “The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and c**ks. They’re as good as gold, I love them.”.

Ricky Gervais spends Netflix special tearing into ‘trendy’ trans people

After turning his attention to trans women’s access to public toilets – “What if he rapes me? What if she rapes you? You f**king TERF whore” – Gervais began attacking so-called cancel culture.

Using Kevin Hart as an example, Gervais claims the “dominant mob” decide who can be “cancelled” and that people can no longer “joke” about “identity politics”.

Hart was due to host the Academy Awards in 2019 until his historic homophobic tweets resurfaced. He initially refused to apologise but did so after being pressured to step down.

Despite claiming he’s no longer allowed to punch down, Gervais spends much of the special punching down at trans people.

“Ironically” struggling to name “female comedians” during the opening jokes, Gervais names Eddie Izzard to laughs from the audience.

“She’s brilliant, isn’t she?” Gervais says. “She’s not only a great comedienne, she’s also a great actress, isn’t she?

“She was brilliant in that thing as that man.”

Wondering what life would be if he were a teenager in these “woke times”, Gervais, of course, says he would “self-ID” as trans because he is “trendy”. He also cracks jokes about gender-affirming healthcare.

“I’d have a big f***y,” he says, adding: “I’d be a real woman … I’d be a little lesbian fella called Vicky Gervais.

“I’d probably be a butch lesbian ’cause of all the testosterone till then.”

It’s far from the firs time Gervais has resorted to relying on anti-trans “jokes” for his comedy.

In 2016 he was criticised for taking shots at Caitlyn Jenner while hosting the Golden Globes. Two years later, in his first Netflix special, he spent 15 minutes rehashing the controversy while deadnaming multiple times Jenner.

In SuperNature, Gervais claims that his comedic style is to “pretend” such gags are his views.

“OK, full disclosure, in real life, of course, I support trans rights,” Gervais says.

“I support all human rights and trans rights are human rights. Live your best life. Use your preferred pronoun.”

Trans viewers – if any – would find this hard to believe as seconds later Gervais adds: “But meet me halfway, ladies. Lose the c**k. That’s all I’m saying.”

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Yes, America has festivals of the arts. What are you talking about? You've never been to local music venues, small film festivals, art districts of large cities? America doesn't have traditions? Look at holidays that are celebrated in America and not other countries. (53)

Maybe you're not understanding the difference between local culture and national culture. (-23)

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You could argue this line of talking about american culture is the very reason poor whites support some of the more extreme right wing ideologies. You get told enough that you have no culture you will latch on to any that says you are worthy. Self worth and racism and nationalism are linked in some very strange ways. (79)

In what ways? Racism and nationalism are features of European culture. Racism is distinctly European while European nationalism takes its distinctive character from nationalism to relationship with racism at least since the second half of the 15th century.Those cultural elements are created by neither an absence of culture nor because someone felt blue when someone said “you have no culture.“ (-47)

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Ok I'm not american but this is stupid. Star Wars has plenty of value, marvel comics have as well, even the marvel movies do. And if you want something more deep hollyweird has this as well. Private Ryan, Schindlers List, Stanley Kubrick, David lynch, etc... Your argument boils down to "Holywood is not art cause it's not old" (47)

Read the first sentence of my comment once more. (-40)

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This is a much better explanation of what you were trying to say. It's probably easier to convey what you meant but just saying - Europeans invented the concept of "race" - rather than - racism is distinctly European. The second statement is only true with lots of qualification - because "racism" has come to broadly encompass many different definitions throughout history, but the first comment is unquestionably true. (6)

I’ll take your word for it but whatever it is that racism has broadly become construed as is exactly the work racism is supposed to do. From the Haitian revolution to colonial Virginia, lawmakers and slave owners wanted to create a world both on the plantation and in a courtroom in which no African knew the difference between a world in which the raw power of a white man was anything but uncontestable. Slave holders in the Spanish colonies, according to Anglo-Saxon racists, got this racial order of things terribly wrong by allowing so-called racial mixing and allowing severely brutalized slaves the opportunity to have their day in court. This notion of absolute dominance over and against the personhood of another person on the basis of so-called “Race“ is what makes the invention of race a distinct invention of a distinct group of people.“Aren’t we all just a little bit racist?“ “Don’t we all have some prejudices to overcome?“ The popular usage of the word “Race“ has a specific raci... (1)

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So thievery is our culture. Ah now you are starting to see how indians see it.And yeah its collective trauma alright innit?Its funny cuz i dont see myself as american, i see myself as annishnabe. (-14)

My guy, history is more nuanced than you make it out to be. Damn near every nations has atrocities. Genocides, slavery, human sacrifices, wars, and the list goes on. Whether it be nations or tribes humans have done fucked up shit regardless of origin. Can’t be picking out things without the rest of the story. Otherwise I can say that your culture is that of getting genocided and put into reservations for the rest of time.Obviously that’s a fucked up statement and not representative of Native American/Indian culture because I’m cutting out a fuck ton of history and just making an ignorant statement.It’s easy to go and just say you aren’t part of American culture. Hell quite of few black movements tried doing that shit. That’s just dumb as hell to me though unless you outright renounce your citizenship and leave to a foreign nation. Instead of running away ya gotta face the music and try to make things better by educating others. Not just rejecting it. American culture is funny becaus... (12)

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Agreed, America has a shitty culture, but it's culture nonetheless.I do think that's what people mean when they say that though, America's culture is that of the assembly line, vapid shit that pollutes everyone else's cultures, kinda like a parasite -- of course I'm talking about the pop culture that you gave examples of, I know that the people of America is very diverse and can't be all bottled up into a single harsh sentence. The culture that the US is known for everywhere else is shit.I personally hate it when people say "x isn't culture", because that's wrong. Everything is culture, good or bad. In America's case, very bad. (1)

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“Oh, women!” he says. “Not all women, I mean the old-fashioned ones. The ones with wombs. Those fucking dinosaurs. I love the new women. They’re great, aren’t they? The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and cocks"

“You can’t predict what will be offensive in the future,” Gervais says. “You don’t know who the dominant mob will be. The worst thing you can say today is, ‘Women don’t have penises,’ right?"

At the end, Gervais says, “In real life, I support trans rights. I support all human rights. Trans rights are human rights. Live your best life. Use your preferred pronouns. Be the gender that you feel you are. But meet me halfway, ladies. Lose the cock"

Pretty bleak times when comedians feel they are so desperate for material that they pick on the most vulnerable of our population to get a laugh. And I like Ricky and Dave. But come on guys - tell some Henry Kissinger jokes or something.

I'm a fan of Ricky Gervais's writing- Afterlife was an exceptional piece of writing, utterly brilliant. As Terry Pratchett said, 'Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you are laughing at people who are hurting, it's not satire, it's bullying'. 🤷‍♀️

But they aren't even jokes, he is simply repeating the rhetoric that women have been getting for years from TRAs. If it is seen as graphic that is because TRA's have been offensively graphic to women who wished to debate their own rights.

It fucking sucks that these hateful guys get paid millions to do specials full of lazy, cruel jokes at the expense of trans people, whose lives continue to be endangered by media like this.

Transphobic jokes have become the "Aristocrats" format of choice for "edgy" comedians, except it's no longer a competition for who can be the funniest, but who can be the cruelest

remember when jokes were supposed to be funny and didnt intentionally bash marginalized people to the point where society's collective view/respect of them diminished as a whole ?

Making fun of marginalized groups of people isn't comedy. The correct term is bullying.

it is so fucking easy to be funny and not transphobic. it’s literally so easy.

It sucks that when older comedians get backlash, they confuse that with having spoken truth to power, even if they’re just elucidating their fear that society is creeping past them by dumping on marginalized folks who pose no threat to them whatever.

I'm sorry, but is there something in their brains that makes middle-aged straight male comedians go full bigot for their "comedy" or something?

This shit is REALLY getting old FAST.

ItalianX valid real man :marseytransflag2: gives an AMA. transmisic cockroaches :chudsey: appear, thankfully :marseyjanny2: clean it up


What do you think about the controversy surrounding the participation of MtF women in women's sports?

They are understandable.

Biologically speaking, female MtF athletes may have micro-advantages in terms of performance and equal training and muscle development compared to their cisgender peers.

It might instead be interesting to make sports entirely open to transgender or intersex athletes, but I find this quite utopian.

OP internalized transphobia is showing :marseypearlclutch::marseypearlclutch:

Do you consider that if a person doesn't want to have any kind of romantic relationship with a person who has transitioned, be it MtF or Ftm, to be transphobic?

I slip right into the category and I'm not ashamed of it, I have mental limits I can't overcome and I'm fine with that, I don't think I'm discriminating against trans people or people who have transitioned but I couldn't imagine being more than friends.


This post is sitting at 20 upvotes. I would reported it to AEO but unfortunately AEO does not process yet reports in ItalianX even though I've reported this issue many times to Reddit Inc.

Do you consider that if a person does not want to have any kind of romantic relationship with a person who has transitioned, be it MtF or Ftm, it is transphobic?

if post-transition yes



Well, biology is obviously a fact and physical advantages are to be measured scientifically and if they are objective deriving from the sex of birth as everything suggests, then the reasoning you make is sharable and not discriminatory at all. To be honest, it may be that I am used to the American language, but saying "man" to refer to biological sex is a bit strange, given that it is a term more associated with the transitional gender beyond the biological discourse. At least I understood it that way the part that could be misread ahah

So, the Americans as much as they bring innovations on the hollyweird etc. side of technology. They have the IQ of a clothesline in the balcony. Because for everything it is victim blaming, discrimination etc. Etc. Like the amber heard case, I've been following it since day one and these still haven't given the sentence to Heard that there is evidence upon evidence upon evidence that she is guilty. But beyond that, this lgbtq ultra turbo champion edition thing is starting to get out of hand. Nothing against them let's be clear, but I would say it's not a fair way to express equality with all the demonstrations and Zan's bill. Equality is simply treating each other normally and with respect without making such antics because we are all human beings free to live and love, and there is no need to take to the streets to protest every time there is an incident of homophobia etc. There are lawsuits for slander, discrimination and more if we want to be equal people, otherwise make more laws like Zan's bill as if they were endangered animals


Ah yes well the American online progressive environment is crazy I'm not saying anyone should be offended by reading what you wrote. But in my opinion it is also a matter of habits in using certain terms more specifically than others that can create misunderstandings when you use umbrella terms in certain issues instead.

As I have become accustomed to, following the various civil rights and lgbt discussions, using the word 'man' or 'woman' to refer to biological sex is something I personally don't do anymore because if you say for example 'trans men are still women...', in an online dialogue, your words are not the same. in an online dialogue, your statement is not distinguished from discriminatory ones, so if in your speech you say "trans men still have biologically female bodies..." it is clearer and more correct what you are saying in short, plus you help normalise the terms man and woman to refer also to transgender people without distinction from cis.

:#chudsey: Thankfully this chud was banned. IT IS NOT CRAZY TO BE A DECENT HUMAN BEING.

Why is it not legitimate to have a preference for natural vaginas over artificial ones? I honestly wouldn't be mad that my partner's vagina was a hole created by a doctor that needs constant dilation.

:#marseysnoo::#marseysnoo: BLATANT SURGEONMISIA SITTING AT 30 UPVOTES.

Eh well, if they are offended they are the ones who want to be referred to as 'special' beings. Anyway, even if you call yourself a woman by orientation, physically you are still a man and vice versa. This has always existed for ages and only now has this issue exploded because the Americans have opened their mouths to let the flies in

Nice strawman, chud. Thankfully /u/MyPendrive and xis anti-hate colleagues clean it up.

Let me add a question: does it not seem to you that the emphasis on the term 'cisgender' (as well as the emphasis on the term 'neurotypical' much used by Aspergers) is a kind of intellectual imposture? In the sense: in order not to feel labelled as a member of a small minority, I make up a term to be attributed to the large majority so as to avoid the risk of someone calling those who are part of that large majority 'normal' (instead of 'cis' or 'neurotypical') (which would offend me as it would imply that I am not part of normality).


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Putin has begun raising Soviet flags everywhere, ergo this is not a rightoid post. Workers of the world, unite!


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Q's irregular gaming megathread #4 :marseygamer:

Hello again! Don't have a witty comment here, so let's just get into the thread.

What have you been playing recently? Do you have any games you'd like to recommend?

Featured game: The Textorcist: The Story of Ray Bibbia. I haven't played this one actually, but it looks very good. Also, it's currently on sale!

So if Russia was attacking Alaska, the USA would have to give Alaska to Russia as not "to make things worse" ?

No because the American military is 200x more powerful than the Ukrainian one

I don’t understand this position. If Russia gains territory by failing at an invasion, what is to prevent them from pulling this stunt in 5 to 10 years and gain more territory?

Absolutely disagree.

Putin will only understand one thing - utter defeat.

He's already proven he won't abide by any agreements. The key will be having the conflict cost him personally.

Every freedom loving army should be in Ukraine defending democracy regardless of the cost so that no would be dictator would ever dare again

Kissinger, a refugee from fascism, would happily consign millions to fascism, to salve the ego of another aging autocrat.

Kissinger: Fight until the US can get “peace with honor,” even if it means killing 3 million Vietnamese

Also Kissinger: Gotta let Vlad off the hook, give him whatever he wants, this is EUROPE we’re talking about

(Kissinger who’s BFFs with Putin)

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@NlGGER have weird body symptoms and @NlGGER think I’m dying lol

Been feeling these weird zap feelings and my body twitches. @NlGGER noticed it after a 3 day car ride. This person here is what describes it best (screen shot attached). This has led too lots of health anxiety which has caused @NlGGER too n word post and seem unhinged. trans lives matter.

If @NlGGER disappear one day is because the brain tumor got @NlGGER or @NlGGER succumbed too ALS. Anyways this isn’t drama and the only reason I’m posting is in case someone else has dealt with symptoms like these. @NlGGER plan too go too the doctor in like a week.


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train drama comes to wrasslin'

popular wrasslin' :quote: news :quote: guy decides today is the day to burn down his :quote: journ*lism :quote: career by complaining that a train won the women's championship 3 years ago.

after that screenshot was shared by another popular wrasslin' personality (youtuber brian zane is where i first saw it so i assume he's the one that kicked all this off?) he decided to double down instead of beg forgiveness, which is hilarious.

You all mad at me but @TonyKhan put the Women’s strap on a male…

nyla rose (the train) responded in hilarious fashion

Hehehe you said strap on….

random nobody officially ends the career of ringside news

Ratio + L + suck my girldick

there's an absolute mountain of seeds and soap and dialing going on, but i was about to leave when i decided that maybe i wanna start posting some of the very constant drama that goes on on wrasslin' twitter. maybe next time i'll do more than link a couple tweets. probably not. chances are i'll never feel like expelling the immense effort it takes to do this.

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Donating to charity is classist, actually

It’s best though to just give to individual people. Give people money. GIVE PEOPLE MONEY.

What did she mean by this? 🤔🤔🤔

In the post title she says that she lost her grandparents earlier this year.

Forehead like a billboard….. smile like a donkey. Doesn’t look like you have any tits. … you better be able to cook.


I can bake and cook and have a dog. That's about all I have going for me


Is the dog chained up so it can't run away?


The dog wishes it was with her grandparents...


It takes balls to come out and talk about your depression and suicidal thoughts. I've been where you are, ever since I saw this photo I've also thought about your suicide.


Sometimes i forget that beneath all those layers of soy, redditors can be pretty brutal when they are in packs.

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