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was it actually good

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I liked it, although my judgment could be skewed from the fact that there hasn't been a non-awful Bond movie since Royale.


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what didnt u like about skyfall

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Bond loses.


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i thought you were going to say something more substantial like how on the nose and inappropriate the meta storytelling elements are

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I feel like all of that is summed up adequately by "Bond loses."

It's not a Bond movie as much as a deconstruction of Bond movies, which isn't what I want when I go to see a Bond movie.

Somewhere there's a guy who loves it for all the reasons I hate it, but I'm not that guy.


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see i feel like i dont mind if they deconstructed Bond movies because Goldeneye is fantastic, but Skyfall I think is too reliant on it being a metaphor for the series having to get its groove back. With Goldeneye the deconstruction is in pointing out the character's flaws and the flaws in the government he works for, which the movie itself sets up so you understand. with skyfall you need to not only be familiar with Bond movies but catch what it's trying to do to like it

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See, I don't mind that Goldeneye is a deconstruction because in that movie Bond kicks butt and wins.

In Skyfall Bond gets shot, fricks up a lot and then loses, that's not what I want to see regardless of the reason for it.


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yea but bond literally dies in the newest one. how is that different

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