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[Boring agenda serious post] The reddit mindset will be the end of western liberal democracy. Venting my probably r-slurred thoughts here cause who cares.

I have long realized that reasoning with redditors has no purpose. No, expand that on people online in general. If you are stuck in an echo chamber long enough, you have zero problems doing the most incredible mental gymnastics. The internet will unironically be the end of western liberal democracy. We are regressing to ape like mental mindsets, our group can do nothing wrong, our group is always right, the other group is always wrong and only commit evil. Debate, compromises, talking to and understanding each other which Form the basis of our democracy are fading. Was uncle Ted a psycho? Yes. Was he despite his methods right at the end of the day? Looking at the internet probably yes.

Well anyway if you got here thanks for entertaining a Schizo. Feel free to insult me and call me paranoid in the comments, I probably deserve it.

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The reddit mindset came from somewhere. Since I am ancient, here are some of my thoughts. I remember the early days of the internet. It was new and exciting, but honestly, society was much different back then and more tolerant of a diversity of political opinions. That made the internet fun. Because people were interested in discussion and did not, in the back of their mind, have the purpose of obliterating other viewpoints. This sort of thing is still present in many small, closely-knit communities in America. People have lived in them for centuries. You rely on your neighbors. Republicans and Democrats get along because they know, in the end, they are in the same community.

During Bush's presidency, the internet changed. You started to see political discussions popping up in communities that were not about politics. It was democrats that usually initiated these political discussions. Republicans had mostly been of the mindset that you avoid politics and religion and contentious debate. The left brought it to communities that weren't about politics or religion. That only got worse. It's gotten exponentially worse. Politics had to be inserted into every facet of life. The technique is nakedly Marxist. You aren't allowed to enjoy your team sport, you must also consider how problematic some agenda item du jour is. You like that TV show? Did you know that one actor is a blatant Republican? And the leftist takeover of entertainment is obvious and disturbing.

It's not that people WANT to be only in groups that agree with them, it's that people were shoved out of groups, so they formed their own where they might exist and not be harassed. That definitely has the result of creating echo chambers. Thinking that reddit is a microcosm of anything is a mistake, since a LOT of people don't post on reddit. These people work all day. They touch grass. So their voices are absent on reddit and the voices of young, angry leftists are amplified. Because they are, it's given the false impression that their views (and some are radical) have mainstream support. I think that's part of what led to all the BLM activity. That's definitely what has led to the antifa activity. The political right doesn't really tend to take to the streets much. The last time the right had any kind of REAL widespread demonstrations was during the Tea Party era after Obama was elected. There was no violence, they often left places cleaner than they found them and they were still labeled terrorists.

For people who took part in Tea Party protests, watching the BLM activity and seeing it called justified and peaceful and okay was an absolute joke. But again, the right doesn't really tend to take to the streets. The right was also not ignorant of the fact that these protestors allegedly upset about George Floyd, were outside Trump's White House wanting to tear down the fence and do I don't know what...and Trump had nothing to do with what happened to George Floyd. Then the Democrats set up a way to bail out protestors that had actually done something so wrong they got arrested for it. The left claims that the Overton window has gone hard right, but every objective look at political issues shows the opposite. The public at large has moved left. The question is, how far left do these people want to go? Because we face a dangerous possibility now and one that I was deeply concerned about during the Trump era.

If there are people getting away with doing violence, if there is no law or a double standard for it, if people think that the Constitution is no longer in effect and the government has become unrepresentative of the people ... there's a possibility of electing an actual strong man to put a stop to it all. That's if we don't have a currency collapse first, leading to mass chaos and a government declaration of martial law.

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If there are people getting away with doing violence, if there is no law or a double standard for it, if people think that the Constitution is no longer in effect and the government has become unrepresentative of the people ... there's a possibility of electing an actual strong man to put a stop to it all. That's if we don't have a currency collapse first, leading to mass chaos and a government declaration of martial law.

I'm glad that someone else thinks along similar lines. That chain of events has been niggling in the back of my mind since 2015 and Congress's reckless spending alongside the horrifying kinds of rhetoric embraced by the mainstream the past two years have thoroughly convinced me that it's a foregone conclusion and the only safe option is to get out before things really hit the fan. Have you put any thought into what country you'll be emigrating to? I've had issues figuring out what would remain worthwhile long-term in the absence of the Pax Americana.

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I am also beyond pissed that the right gave up their fight to try to be fiscally responsible. I am afraid that the time to successfully rein in the spending and save the economy is passed. We're in debt to China and have let them buy up land in the USA. They aren't a friend and never have been. We also funded the research in Wuhan, I mean what the frick? We said it was so dangerous that we outlawed doing it in our OWN country and then we funded it in fricking China for frick's sake? I don't plan to move. I have loved America for long enough that I'll go down with the ship. But the people who managed to hold shit together through world war rationing and a Great Depression are NOT the people we have in this country now. Everyone is used to ease and bitching about minor inconveniences. The moment cities run out of food and with our lazy reliance on just being able to buy it at the store, shit could get real very quickly.

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AWESOME POST!!! Everything you wrote was just spot on. I also jumped on the net earlier than most people. I remember, on usenet, you would NEVER see politics brought up in unrelated threads. Like, a forum, say rec.arts.Disney.parks, might have a thread that is political (and titled appropriately), but a thread talking about, say, the differences between the Florida and California Haunted Mansions would not end up in a flame war (about politics, that is, lol). Anyway, great post.


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A lot of young people probably think that ye olden days of the internet was people just screaming the n-word and being awful all the time, but it wasn't. Nobody thought that they could NOT do it, so people just didn't really do it. Conversation was mostly organic and unreserved, but you never saw Nazis going, "Hello. Did you ever consider that Hitler was correct?" It's just not something that happened. Also, back then people were enthusiastic about trying to digitize literally everything, historical documents...etc. and getting them online so that everyone could access them. In the past five years in America I've often looked for a thing that I use to cite something and I can't find it on a google search. It became SUPER noticeable that some of my favorite citations for various debates were somehow being disappeared from the internet.

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I think it had a lot to do with the Nazis and tankies had their own forums, so it never occured to them (nor had the desire to) frick with non-political forums, or to "get revenge" for getting their forum removed or censored. Of course, they still have their own forums, but not on huge sites like Reddit. That is interesting about the citation thing. I lost interest in formal debates years ago, so I haven't noticed. I've become totally disillusioned, basically.


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Good post.


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That's nice sweaty. Why don't you have a seat in the time out corner with Pizzashill until you calm down, then you can have your Capri Sun.

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