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Today is an election day in Germany

I know, who cares. Could be lots of drama if the CDU/CSU lose majority.

Anyway, I am not a citizen so I can't vote. But my foid is and she will vote. The problem is that she is a white woman so she is gonna vote wrong.

I know she plans to give one of her votes for the greens. And my problem is that they are extremely bussy/train loving cute twinks that used to be journalists, diversity professors, and book translators before becoming politicians. And I draw the line at journalism.

Should I lock the door and "lose the key" or do I let a woman practice her right to vote?

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This will stay pinned in case something dramatic happens and germs loose their shit. If the CDU keep beeing the strongest force r/de will cope and seethe and r/Europe will have a massive shit fest. If the commies take over and we get a red coalition r/Europe will explode and cope and seethe will be everywhere.

Which is the right wing party and which is the left one?

"Which is the right wing party and which is the left one?"

:marseybrainlet:

👆 You, Amerimutt.

Amerimutts when a group with complex and constantly evolving philosophy and ideology doesn't get entirely characterised into a part of a 1 dimensional line that is only taken seriously by petulant children and journalists

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have some patience, they're simple folk

Which is the white party in the middle?

The Globohomo Jewish Deep State.

Being in the middle they receive 50% of all votes, now I understand

its the hole left in our hearts by the war of anglo aggression 1939-1945

Which of the ideologies listed is remotely conservative?

youre taking this ms paint image awfully serious, are you american?

CDU is actually conservative auth-right, dunno why the mspaint calls it liberal at all

Painfully accurate for most of western europe sans bongistan

TIL political parties don't align themselves over various values, knowing which, is more than I could care about for some irrelevant muslim country.

👆 You, White Lite.

Cope. If your view of politics is "left/right" you, like women and people of rent, shouldn't vote.

no u.

:marseycope:

Politics is inherently left wing and right wing. And since the left is progressive and the right is conservative, it's impossible for one to support one without hating the others. Therefore, following from this, it's only reasonable to know which party is right and which one is left so I know which one to support.

Like women and people of rent, shouldn't vote

Imagine being Slav and a sexist. Disgusting.

And since the left is progressive and the right is conservative

:marseybrainlet: :marseybrainlet: :marseybrainlet:

The most conservative government in western Europe is left wing social democrats in Denmark. Unironically stop voting Mutt.

Sorry, don't you have tracksuits to steal and sidewalks to squat over? Get busy somewhere else.

Yes I do, which is why its embarassing I have to explain to mutts that democracy is more complex than "left and right".

democracy

We are a republic not a democracy.

The hieght of stupidity.. :marseyreich:

what about the tories

Another example for mutt brains. We have 2 right wing parties, the FDP and the AFD. The FDP progressive (liberal on LGBT, immigration, Eu etc.) while the AFD is conservative on those same topics.

Burger parties can do funny shit too, but you have to have a slightly better memory than a goldfish to notice:

2000 Democratic platform:

We must punish employers who engage in a pattern and practice of recruiting undocumented workers in order to intimidate and exploit them, and provide strengthened protections for immigrant workers, including whistleblower protections. Doing so enhances conditions for everyone in the workplace. We believe that any increases in H1-B visas must be temporary, must address only genuine shortages of highly skilled workers, and must include worker protections. They must also be accompanied by other immigration fairness measures and by increased fees to train American workers for high skill jobs. The Democratic Party is committed to assuring an adequate, predictable supply of agricultural labor while protecting American farm workers who are among the poorest and more vulnerable in our society. We reject calls for guest worker programs that lead to exploitation, and instead call for adjusting the status of immigrants with deep roots in the country.

2000 GOP platform:

The education reforms we propose elsewhere in this platform will, over time, greatly increase the number of highly qualified workers in all sectors of the American economy. To meet immediate needs, however, we support increasing the number of H-1B visas to ensure high-tech workers in specialized positions, provided such workers do not pose a national security risk; and we will expand the H-2A program for the temporary agricultural workers so important to the nation's farms.

You had a chance to not be completely worthless, but it looks like you threw it away. At least you're consistent.

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Also dont forget to mention all the small ones, NPD is valid!

And since the left is progressive and the right is conservative

Le arbritrary spatial paradigm™ strikez againe

Too bad this one isnt implemented yet

Damn, they burned you good, but GREAT comeback!! :marseyflamewar:

The CDU are centre right, the SPD are centre left, from what I understand both are neoliberal.

The CDU is neoliberal and neoconservative depending on the topics and the wing of the party. Most support social economics which isnt really neoanything though. The SPD is neoliberal depending on the coalition though again they are a big supporter of social economics.

Thank you for the correction

All I know is that my german zoomer friends sneed at the eternal CDU/SPD coalition

Oh, so they're all a bunch of commies. Got it.

oversimplified but

CDU/CSU center right

AfD right

Greens and SPD center left

Die Linke far left

Isn't AfD considered more far-right? At least thats my understanding.

yes they are far right but i didn’t feel like having unironic rightoids screech at me about it

I thought this was some kind of joke, but nope this is real. :marseydoomer:

https://twitter.com/gruenexhain/status/1436310723169239041

Already nuke Berlin from orbit

"Our vision for Xhain"

And then one day, for no reason at all...

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You're just jealous you don't have any blue lipstick or lightning shades.

Looks like paradise for Carp.

Surprised they're getting shit on so much in the replies tbh. On burger twitter I think they would have gotten a lot more support.

Probably because everyone in the picture looks like fat, inhuman ogre.

Nuking Berlin was on the cards a couple of times

Bomber Harris didn't go far enough.

Reject modernity, embrace tradition

As a Jewoid, the fact that this is somehow less disturbing than the original speaks in volumes.

Now I don’t feel so guilty for liking it better than the original. And, yes, it does speak volumes. Why not a party that supports tradition and is anti-communist? Without, you know, the mass murder, starting wars, actual racial persecution, and complete elimination of freedom of speech?

Sounds like a plan.

So the Republicans?

:lol: Good one! Wait, you were serious? They love to start wars (Trump excluded). Oh god, I hate the GOP. Yes, I REALLY fucking hate the Democrats, but I like the devil himself better than them.

As a Jewoid, the only thing I'm mad about is that Hitler claimed to be a eugenicist but then went on to genocide the race with the highest average IQ. He could have done so much good for the world, and he decide to waste it all on r-slured tribalism.

Well you sure have a point. But aesthetics and beauty matters too, not just intelligence.

Aesthetics are arbitrary though, in the sense of whatever is currently being sexually selected for is the definition of what "aesthetic" means. Human society is already an ongoing aesthetic eugenics program. What else are you hoping to add? Rounding up and shooting up people you consider too ugly? Don't worry, they're already not reproducing

Aesthetics are arbitrary though

Nah that's a lie from postmodern doctrine. They'll also have you know that being obese or bald is beautiful too. There are universals, such as symmetry, smooth skin and decent face features (proportion, button nose, silky hair), and even babies sense these things.

Rounding up and shooting up people you consider too ugly?

Nah, that's just evil, just as it would be to round up the stupid people. As you say, leaving it to evolution is probably best, with heavily enforced borders at most to prevent things from getting worse.

Nah that's a lie from postmodern doctrine. They'll also have you know that being obese or bald is beautiful too. There are universals, such as symmetry and smooth skin, and even babies sense these things.

I think you're missing the point entirely. You're confusing individual aesthetics/preference for group aesthetics/preference. Eugenics does not affect individuals, it affects groups. Using eugenics to improve an objective metric (like intelligence) makes sense, because it can meaningfully change how we live. Using it to improve a rank metric (like beauty) does not. If 50% of men are too ugly to reproduce now, 50% of men will still be too ugly to reproduce after eugenics - the bar for reproduction just gets raised.

Even the ugliest man alive has infinitely smoother skin and better facial symmetry from the early hominids we descended from. Transport them back in time and they'd be the most attractive individuals around.

Nah, that's just evil. As you say, leaving it to evolution is probably best, with heavily enforced borders at most to prevent things from getting worse.

Why would evolution need any interventions? Doesn't sexual attraction always succeed in selecting for attractiveness, by that being the definition of what "attractive" means?

Using eugenics to improve an objective metric (like intelligence) makes sense

Many would argue measuring intelligence is just arbitrary and subjective too. We both would disagree with them, but that brings me on to your next point:

Using it to improve a rank metric (like beauty) does not.

I disagree there, as I think beauty is objective too - just super tricky to get the full truth on it, just like it's fairly tricky with intelligence.

If 50% of men are too ugly to reproduce now, 50% of men will still be too ugly to reproduce after eugenics - the bar for reproduction just gets raised.

And you could say the same about intelligence. There'll be a new "stupid 50%" after the population has gotten more intelligent. This is why it's crucial to not go down the purity spiral too far, as the logical conclusion of that path would leave the world's population in the hundreds instead of the billions.

Why would evolution need any interventions? Doesn't sexual attraction always succeed in selecting for attractiveness, by that being the definition of what "attractive" means?

Yeah, it's a fair point. I think very, very long term, it will always succeed no matter what. But without a border, you're gonna have a rough short term. In theory. There's also the argument that putting up a border is a natural part of what makes us who we are, and is all part of the evolutionary pattern, so perhaps it shouldn't even be classed as an 'intervention' in a sense.

I disagree there, as I think beauty is objective too - just super tricky to get the full truth on it, just like it's fairly tricky with intelligence.

I think there's merit to this. I'll concede, I too believe most attraction is ultimately functional - we desire whatever we think gives our genes the highest chance of being passed on. That's an objective metric. If something is causally linked to improved fitness, it's not arbitrary. I was more so thinking about the random variation on top, and about cases when runaway sexual selection ends up with less fit species, when I called preference arbitrary.

And you could say the same about intelligence. There'll be a new "stupid 50%" after the population has gotten more intelligent. This is why it's crucial to not go down the purity spiral too far, as the logical conclusion of that path would leave the world's population in the hundreds instead of the billions.

I was about to argue something like "but now even the stupid 50% will be capable of figuring out space colonization", but tbh I don't even know how that would improve our quality of life. We'd just adapt to it and call our scifi future lives the new normal. The hedonic treadmill strikes again.

I guess, at the end of the day, no matter how much you improve us as a species, it fundamentally won't ever make us happier as a species. The only thing intelligence leads to is a more conscious and vivid experience of that unhappiness. Rather than breeding us to be more aesthetically pleasing, you should breed us to be more blissfully ignorant and content with dating ugly people. Or just hook us up to life support and wirehead us to death. That'd probably be the objectively and subjectively least miserable experience.

Unironically just abort the human race at this point

Whoops, here we are serious posting, tut tut!

I'll concede, I too believe most attraction is ultimately functional - we desire whatever we think gives our genes the highest chance of being passed on. That's an objective metric.

Yes! But I think it goes even further than just functional. Form also gives happiness. Some things are completely unfunctional (for example, the exterior of this cathredral), but they still look good, and having things that look good helps to make the world a better place. Form isn't always in harmony with function, even if it can be. Sometimes, we sacrifice function to get something which looks nicer (and vice versa of course). And this whole "form" metric (not just the function) I believe is still objective, although it's very hard to prove that of course.

Anyway, a face can look bad and still be very functional. We like the best of both worlds, an attractive face, which also happens to be functional.

I was about to argue something like "but now even the stupid 50% will be capable of figuring out space colonization"

Honestly, intelligence wise, that would be "good enough" for me. I think it'd be awesome to communicate with such individuals, as long as other personality traits such as a sense of humour, or beauty aren't sacrificed. Maybe it would be better to gain even greater intelligence than that, but it could be diminishing returns, happiness-wise.

I guess, at the end of the day, no matter how much you improve us as a species, it fundamentally won't ever make us happier as a species.

Getting deep into philosophy territory here. I think it would make us happier overall, but I can't prove it. Life was really tough 1000 years ago.

Rather than breeding us to be more aesthetically pleasing, you should breed us to be more blissfully ignorant and content with dating ugly people.

See, for people who especially want the truth, I don't think they could be fooled that easily. Only if someone's lying to themself could they consider someone like Leslie Jones from Ghostbusters or the women (?) from Vox/Huffpost beautiful.

Unironically just abort the human race at this point

Don't give up on us that easily! There's still good left in the world.

It does speaks volumes, just maybe not about what you think it does.

Oh do please elaborate.

No.

Well I agree with you that there are other ways the original's more disturbing that I haven't considered.

:marseylaugh: :taylaugh: great edit lmao

Eco-fashism

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:marseyreich:

:marseyunabomber:

Thats great, only thing missing is the dog on the balcony turned into a shepherd.

Holy fuck, lol! That almost makes me like Nazis, If it wasn’t for the whole industrialized separate , kill, and torture innocent families thing. That, and the Wehrmacht killed my great uncle.

I still can't believe this isn't satire. Thankfully shit like this is leads to more people taking the Wagenknechtpill

Didn't know Wagenknecht was a true Aryan, huh.

The Euro/Iranian mutts always come out looking 100% Euro. Return to our indo Aryan roots?

Wagenknecht has argued that the Left Party must pursue radical and anti-capitalist goals, thereby remaining distinct from the more moderate Social Democratic Party (SPD) and Green Party. She has criticized the Left Party's participation in coalition governments, especially the Berlin state government, which has made cuts to social spending and privatized some services.

She has expressed strong support for the rise of left-wing leaders in Latin America, such as Hugo Chávez, and for SYRIZA's 2015 electoral victory in Greece. She serves as a spokesperson for the Venezuela Avanza solidarity network, and as an alternate on the European Parliament's delegation for relations with Mercosur.

Wow, she's so r-slured, I hope Krauts vote for her so she can run their country into the ground.

Eh most leftoids turn into normal succs when elected. My state is being governed by them for the last couple of years and it's going ok. But the Left party tried really hard this year to not get elected. Absolutely r-slured leadership. I hope they don't get into the parliament and have to rethink their positions and strategy

I hope they don't get into the parliament and have to rethink their positions and strategy

I mean not getting elected is kinda the plan, at least it looks like it. (Ignoring Ramelow, who has the outstanding advantage of not being a r*slurred zealot)

Quite based, but no-one can beat the PM of Denmark.

THAT is a poster for the Green Party??!! And Germans VOTE for this, enough to make them a major party?? So, basically, they are all about what your identity is, as opposed to your character? And why put 🚂🚃🚃s up front? Their numbers are tiny. Or is there so many in Germany now , that pandering to them works?

The German national psyche consists solely of PTSD and guilt over the years when their flag was the windmill of peace. The Greens represent the sadomasochists who deal with this trauma by wanting to tear everything down and do the opposite of what the friendly windmill people did. The Left represent sadists who want to do what Commie Germany did (1984 but irl). The other parties represent other means of addressing this issue (for example, FDP is for people who play Forklift Simulator for 1000 hours each year to avoid the guilt)

Its an election poster from one shitlib district in Berlin. If they used this federally theyd be done tomorrow.

Thanks for the insight. The pendulum always swings, the question is how far?

Fuck, this explains perfectly why there isn't a political party I can identify with

I'd vote for a less r-slured version of the AfD, but the AfD decided to pander to the most r-slured audience possible

I voted green/fdp mix and I have never seen this poster nor do I think it's representative of the green party as a whole. Social justice and identity politics isn't exactly a mainstay of the green party's agenda, this isn't the US (yet).

Also, like all propaganda it's basically BS anyways, they were just trying (and failing) to capture an audience. English twitter is genuinely this r-slured so they thought this is how you market to them, I guess. It even backfired on them. Also, one regional candidate being completely r-slured doesn't mean your local candidates are.

Cool. Thanks for explaining your thoughts on it. I don’t know German culture or politics, so it is a relief to see this isn’t representative of a huge political force.

Don't worry, it's just a matter of time until the American propaganda machine exports CRT/SJWism to everywhere else that still broadcasts American media

Nowhere is safe. I haven't yet decided where to flee to when they set up the concentration camps.

We already have many Democrats wanting to set up re-education camps here, for people that disagree with them. I don’t know how they’d enforce it, since they are so scared of guns.

Link? Sounds juicy

Source: :marseyschizo:

Deutschland Deutschland über alles. Über alles in der Welt!

Don't know how absentee works there, my foid doesn't know she votes. When I submit my absentee ballot, I request one for her too and fill it out and mail it in. I do this every election*

*To the glowninjas following me this is totally satire and I'd definitely never break federal election law

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Better hope you never anger that foid when it's her time of the month because she'll find out eventually and will absolutely snitch on you if you piss her off

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No she won't.

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And now you know why he's so sure about it

Even if she would how would she prove it lol

They have to sign absentee ballots, don’t they? I imagine it is separated from the actual vote, but if they keep receipt slips or something they could prove a forgery. I serious.y doubt they keep them very long, though. Hell, maybe they don’t sign them at all.

Yeah, you have to sign it.

You put your ballot in an envelope and this envelope as well as a signed form into a bigger envelope.

People check (or not if lazy) if the signature is valid and then only the envelope with the ballot is thrown into the ballot box.

Thanks. So they could theoretically get her legitimate signature, and have a professional compare it to her absentee ballot signature. I know realistically they are not going to go that trouble, for one puddly vote, and they probably throw them out after a while anyway.

I am not a citizen

You have to go back

I can't believe krauts forced him out of voting, seems like nazism is alive and well over there

if the CDU/CSU lose majority.

That's pretty certain. Merkel, a very effective party leader, has spent 20 years making sure nobody competent/charismatic enough to threaten her position could get close, so all the potential replacements were clowns or disgraced.

Should I lock the door and "lose the key"

Lol no, just keep reminding her of her vote as she gets increasingly blackpilled. Red-Green will only be slightly less obedient to corporate and bourgeois interests than Black-Yellow would be. Germany is definitely less oligarchic than the US, but "if elections could change anything they would be illegal" still applies.

I let her go only because she took the kid so now I get a break from hearing baby shark

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I'm really hoping for a green government, hopefully with the Linke in the mix as well, it's going to be such a hilarious trainwreck.

I also told her that she should pull a radical centrist move and give one vote for AfD and the other for Linke. But she said it was r-slured.

But she said it was r-slured.

Tell her she is voting green, you cant be more rslurred than that

turn off the slur replacer in settings

I like the slur replacer tbh, its funny

What a cute twink! :marseylaugh:

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🥰

Cant wait for weimar->drittes reich #2

I know she plans to give one of her votes for the greens.

I know we make fun of redditors for destroying personal relationships over bugman politics shit but you need to destroy your relationship over bugman politics shit

SPD could really get it this time. Which wouldn't be that dramatic since they're just soft centre-left, but it's been years since someone else has been in power.

I pray to Allah Scholz had a full swing back to his 80s commie roots and we see a red red green coalition. Imagine if Germanys economy tanks. The aftermath would be absolutely dramatic.

Its gonna be either a commielition or black-red for the billionth time

What's black-red in this context? I only really know them as symbols for anarchism and communism respectively.

CDU and SPD, being 'christian democratic union' (supposedly conservative but more center/slightly left in reality) and 'social democratic party' (supposedly social democrats, so left wing, but in reality they have been the CDUs bitch for the last few years and stand for nothing anymore).

Vote for hitler lol

Doesnt he have a living nephew or something in burgerstan? Fuck it, write him on the ballot, whats the worst that can happen?

Heh. He died in 87. Maybe he had kids, I don’t know. Anyway, he hated the Nazis. He was in America in ‘39. He became a US citizen, joined the navy, and literally fought against the Germans. FDR had to personally clear him to join the navy, since, due to his uncle, they were reluctant to admit him. Edit: Wiki says he was drafted, but also says FDR had to clear him. Little unclear. Also, no kids, according to wiki.

@pizzashill what's your take on the election? I wanna know if your hatred of women is stronger than your smug liberal opinions :marseyfamily:

Idk don't really care I guess.

I thought you had enough to have strong opinions on everything political.

Is everything alright pizza? :marseyblowkiss:

I basically gave up on politics after the user manual fiasco and kind of just shitpost to trigger rightoids now.

What's the user manual fiasco?

Some guy uploaded a voter machine user manual to the internet (it was just public info btw) and claimed he had secret voting machine data and conservatives fully believed it and claimed it had proven fraud.

Literally just a user manual btw.

Newfags OUT.

nonsense chicken sandwich politics

Touch grass, dude

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