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Women getting linguistically holocausted was not on my woke bingo card for this year.
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Is there a vocal group of ftms that is upset over the words like "mother"? I have just never encountered that, nor any other turboneurodivergent spergouts by ftms over ridiculous minutiae, it always seems to be mtfs.
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All linguistic inclusivity rebranding (be it bleeding bodies or Latinxs) is not because a group of people wanted it, but because it is designed as a humiliation ritual. You accept the neo-term? Good, you are degrading yourself by calling your own people an exonym given to you by soulless r-slurs. You fight against it? Good, you are proof that your people are regressive and evil. In both cases, you deserve humiliation from the neo-Church.
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Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks
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Oh yeah, it's a giant conspiracy to get you all humiliated. Take your meds schizo.
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SEE with CLEAR OPEN EYES and you'll find that this pyramid scheme of humiliation is being kept in place by the Aliens
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Ok, now you're staying to sound reasonable. Tell me more.
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I have outlined this TRUTH on other threads on this website. Here are the links:
https://rdrama.net/post/11744/frozenposting-controversial-opinions-thread/208750//?context=5#context
https://rdrama.net/post/14129/nyt-shitpinion-amplified/289342//?context=5#context
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Lol you expect me to believe
I was with you all the way until this one.
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Yikes, Anti-Semitism is NOT welcome on arrDrama
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I'd put it "the other way around".
Forcing people and institutions to use this language is a way for trains and train enthusiasts to display their power. Like a schoolyard bully shoving the nerd against a locker, just to remind the nerd that he can.
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Most trains I know personally hate these words and all they represent with a passion.
But, then again, most trains I know personally are the old generation that's been booted out of the community, so their opinion doesn't really influence much here.
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The only train I know spent 5 years not transitioning because she didn't want to associate with other trains
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Most
s are mtf, wonder why???
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FtM tend to be a lot more chill and don't make a huge fricking deal out of everything, so you don't notice them
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I don't notice most people who are less than 5'8", so, yeah
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No, they're not. You're just obsessed with girl peepee
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MTFs outnumber FTMs by as much as 2:1
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/
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I fell for their propaganda then
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I can't seem to find where it says mtfs outnumber ftms. I see it says mtfs get double the surgery, but a lot of trans pass on that so I can't say it's representative of the whole.
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I can't seem to find where it says mtfs outnumber ftms. I see it says mtfs get double the surgery, but a lot of trans pass on that so I can't say it's representative of the whole.
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Yes they are and true
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Yep. (I wrote out a longer comment but it started venturing deep into rightoid territory)
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Yep what? Yep, they do have turboneurodivergent spergouts somewhere?
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Sorry - I meant “yep it is almost always MTF”. No comment on specific subgroup or commonality.
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Never be afraid of going into the rightoid lands, as long as your heart stays true you will emerge as a true centrist.
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I haven't seen any mentally disabled person sperg out about using the r-slur towards non disabled people either. It's usually just done by mayo foids who have nothing better to do.
Uncle Ted longposted for like 15 paragraphs over this type of behaviour.
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FTMs seem to be way chiller than MTFs honestly. I doubt they care for the most part
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That's cuz trans dudes are real dudes and dudes rock.
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My guess is this is MTFs too, they’re just doing it on FTMs’ behalf bc by the transitive property (ha ha) it’s good for their euphoria/erections.
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Idk about outrage but ftms are the ones having babies in their hairyass man womb and someone gave birth to the pregnant man emoji in response. Which is worse because mtfs cant make life to ruin immediately.
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then you're a bad bingo player, two years ago they were using the word womxn and claimed a won war, but then the trains came in and apparently womxn is now trainsphobic because frick knows why. Now its mothers, birthing people, vagina havers and what not.
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I honestly didn’t think they would go this far. I also thought a lot of it was broadly part of the massive anti-Trump push and would be discarded when no longer needed like BLM.
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all this is even weird because using the letter x as a replacement started off with womxn but now Womxn is out of the window but the derivative Latinx is still ok. There is no consistency with these people, its rotted rat brain throughout.
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Then you were sold snake oil. The people pushing for it are not just opportunist cynics. They 100% genuinely believe they are doing good by humiliating the wrongthinkers.
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Nah. The initial push for it in major media might have been part of the Trump thing, but the people that were doing the push didn't dissolve into aether once Trump was y'alled, they're still exactly in the same positions doing the exact same shit. They weren't doing it disingenuously - they really do believe in this shit.
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I still believe there's a lag effect, and that more and more people will criticise this in 1-2 years once Biden has been in power for a while. Even more so in 4-5 if the Democrats win election. The culture is still built around Trump and it'll take time for the stink to dissipate.
Feel free to laugh at this comment if it turns out wrong.
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No it hasnt lmao
Literally anything has patriarchal roots if you go back more than 50 years
Only people using 'Latinx' are white.
I hate journos
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Uhm yikes sweaty, it's 'front holes' actually. Get with the times, believe the science!!!
https://google.com/amp/s/www.dailydot.com/irl/front-hole/%3famp
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wtf even I a man have a front hole, in the peepee
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Time to start your HRT, sweetie 🥰🥰🥰
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If you have a front hole, youre a woman. Just transition already.
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Please explain why you still have this
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how long until we can just call them "holes"
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Why wait
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I wonder if we are going to make another turn and see "trans birthing persons are birthing persons"? That sounds a little far fetched but I member when s*x and gender were definitely different for example.
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Womxn is way older than that. It used to be womyn when I was in high school, which was a long time ago
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Does anyone do this for men? I literally can't think of a time anyone said "people with peepees" in popular media.
Trains are absolutely real to me because the ones that become men stop being whiny bitches and the ones that become women pick up the habit.
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no and that causes my other favorite type of twitter drama, TERFs being angry about how only women's terms end up getting changed. It's a frequent subject of TERF seethe. TERFs vs. Trains is truly the caviar of drama when you spot it in the wild
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Well FtM tend to actually have disphoria and not be gross perverts with AGP.
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Yeah, I've seen People with Peepee definition quite recently in a Russian webzine of all places.
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https://i.ibb.co/nCX8xjt/dcc5d74d7b71.webp
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I love women.
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Once 50% of w.men are transw.men we can wipe out the disgusting natal ones and be left with superior stock.
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Nice, that's some good drama.
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So close and yet so so far.
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yeah.. that's why 0.001% of the world can't change the meaning of a word
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They absolutely can. I'm not even going to bring up the earlier redefinitions that happened before the zoomers' time, but remember how "sexual preference" became offensive overnight? If you think your (or anyone outside of the people editing newspapers and dictionaries) opinion matters - you're wrong.
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In the real world, 99% of people use their own in-group colloquial definitions, dialectisms and memes excessively, and only adopt astroturfed neologisms when they refer to fringetard concepts they don't care about one way or another
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Finna bout to
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Sexual preference is back. They just call it genital preference now and it’s super woke
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SuperStraight lives on in wokies' language!
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Even in the fictional universe in which 1984 took place, the Party's attempts at Newspeak failed spectacularly and led to the collapse of their totalitarian regime. Language will always be determined decentrally.
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Which 1984 did you read?..
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Read the coda at the end of the book. It basically reads like a restrospective analysis, written in normal English, describing the Party's attempt to implement Newspeak.
Personally, I look at it this way: there's an entire book written from the perspective of a single man facing this totalitarian regime. The entire book is oppressing and hopeless. Then, after all is said and done, there's a small footnote discussing the Party and Newspeak. The entirety of the horror of the book is relegated to a historical footnote, as are the grand machinations of the Party.
History, humanity, and circumstance will always make fools of those who think they can control any one of them. Best laid plans of mice and men.
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Hmm... oddly I don't remember the coda, but then I've read it like 20 years ago, so I could easily just be mistaken.
Regardless - you overestimate people's attachment to language. There have been a shit tonne of cases of not words, but entire languages being replaced without any significant demographic changes (same people, just new language). My hometown had this happen twice in its history
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I'm not saying language doesn't change. I'm saying that linguistic changes take place in a decentralized fashion. Small groups of people are incapable of forcing linguistic change across a population.
As a side note: internet dialogue and real-life dialogue are increasingly divergent. This is why you see things like the German Greens getting a lot of "support" online and then getting btfo in the election. Trying to judge real-life dialogues and decisions on the basis of internet discussion is a crapshoot, at best. Online addicts are going to define online discourse, but these same online addicts are effete and powerless when it comes to real life.
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that's where you're wrong, kiddo 😎
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REEEE PRESCRIPTIVISTS NOOOOOO
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It's not empathy if you're doing it under the threat of a thousand screaming lunatics trying to remove you from your job if you don't toe the line properly.
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Wagies deserve to have their language patrolled for being wagies
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Because nothing triggers your dysphoria more than feminine nouns. Not even pushing a baby out of your mangina.
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Check out the r/ThisAmericanLife sub for threads about the episode “Tell me I’m Fat” for some more drama.
That had to have made the old sub at some point.
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Spoon feed me, daddy!
You actually know what to search for, give us a fricking link...
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https://old.reddit.com/r/ThisAmericanLife/comments/4ow13r/589_tell_me_im_fat/?sort=controversial
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Google the episode title you lazy f-slur. The reddit link is the third result for me.
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And copypasting that result into your comment was too much effort?
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Yes
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Let's reduce all forms of language to gobbledegook to appease a bunch of basket cases, I am sure words having meaning isn't important.
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Hahaha they included a trigger warning because some guests on the podcast used the phrase "woman" instead of "bleeding hole". Is this real life?
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Nope. It's just Reddit fantasy.
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r/mother_is_a_slur when?
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Just do r/BirthingPeople and mask it as a parenting subreddit
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That'd be a better bait sub than the more ridiculous & obvious ones
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Darn, that (unlike most ideas here springing out our recent wave of success) is actually not bad. If we can get it linked by something remotely centre-right, it could work pretty well. Make it!
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Good morning, I hate
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I can help you with that
- just add the words "trans lives matter" to all your comments for the next day and I'm sure your negative feelings towards locomotives will subside. In fact our helpful autojannie will assist you with that, in case you forget! 
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Wow le epic dunko. Jerk urself more pls
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Thx, bae, will do
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Hope you let me watch
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Of course, sweetie, just subscribe to my OF!
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libs have gone too far
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How is it that they reproduce again?
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Some say not far enough
Transform your Marseys!
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The world will not be perfect untill 100% of the population are bussy lovers.
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Try to be more inclusive!
Use "bleeding person" in place of "woman"
Use "vulva owner" instead of "female"
Use "bleeding hole: instead of "vagina"
Use "birthing person" in place of "mother"
Before you utter any sentence with gendered language, kindly remind yourself that gender non-confirming people and sexual minorities exist! Acknowledging their existence in your day to day language makes the world a better place to live in for the disadvantaged.
Thank you, and please feel free to add more inclusive terms to refer to the privileged who confirm to their gender in the comments.
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I love how we got to the point that "bodies with vaginas" is actually not a dehumanizing and abhorrent way of referring to women
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Why do women make everything about themselves sound disgusting? 🤢
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This unscientific shit right here makes me unironically angy
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I mean, there are women with XO, but that's a deformity, not something to be considered when discussing human biology. It's telling that these people would never take issue with the statement "humans have two arms, and two legs" when they could make the same arguments to screech at you, if they actually had any idea idea they were saying.
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that could not be less true. the overwhelming majority of the time intersex people are completely infertile
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but what about the intersex people
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Whatever it is, it simply must be destroyed.
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Funny, the podcast that talked about rdrama just did an episode about "bodies with vaginas". They even pointed out that men don't get this treatment.
ACLU also did this to the left's dead hero, RGB
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This person was neither a nurse nor a doctor but felt the right to include they worked security at the hospital to prove they were correct.
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Empathy would be having the understanding to know how utterly r-slurred and unrealistic it is to try bubble wrap every facet of society so that a small collection of quacks can "feel safe" - won't change shit it's not the problem.
This is the work of men with beanies permanently glued to their heads and fat women.
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There's only one solution, and it's out Woking the wokies
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Based and accelerationistpilled
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"There are a few good answers, but the answer most applicable to you (and the majority who upvote you) is this: empathy.
It's not that you lack it, it's worse. You are more actively un-empathetic. Choices like "fall over themselves," "extremely fragile fringe," "discard" ('mother' wasn't discarded in this episode--it was used) and "trans women who can't get pregnant" (it's trans men who are pregnant who don't want to be called mothers) show where you're at.
It's not just that you would choose to use the word mother without any caveats. That's mostly just ignorance, but could be lack of empathy, in educated cases. It's not what you're doing. You're falling all over yourself to object to the empathy, which is something completely different.
Now, I'm one room away from someone in the "fragile fringe group." This person isn't fragile (not one of the trans people where the high suicide rate applies) specifically because I and many around them have empathy for them.
Until opinions like yours, and the impacts they have on vulnerable people, start to really dissipate, it costs me nothing to literally save lives.
A point similar to yours could be made without using the word fringe.
EDIT: The number of people affected by our language choices are much, much higher than 0.001%. Everyone who knows and cares about trans people is affected. The number who care is huge. Everyone in that group feels worse about the world when people are mean and upvoted."
> The number who care is huge.
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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.
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That show used to be awesome until they did that story where some creepy foid was spying on her neighbors like it wasn't what it was.
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There are a few good answers, but the answer most applicable to you (and the majority who upvote you) is this: empathy.
It's not that you lack it, it's worse. You are more actively un-empathetic. Choices like "fall over themselves," "extremely fragile fringe," "discard" ('mother' wasn't discarded in this episode--it was used) and "trans women who can't get pregnant" (it's trans men who are pregnant who don't want to be called mothers) show where you're at.
It's not just that you would choose to use the word mother without any caveats. That's mostly just ignorance, but could be lack of empathy, in educated cases. It's not what you're doing. You're falling all over yourself to object to the empathy, which is something completely different.
Now, I'm one room away from someone in the "fragile fringe group." This person isn't fragile (not one of the trans people where the high suicide rate applies) specifically because I and many around them have empathy for them.
Until opinions like yours, and the impacts they have on vulnerable people, start to really dissipate, it costs me nothing to literally save lives.
A point similar to yours could be made without using the word fringe.
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look im gunna have 2 ask u 2 keep ur giant dumps in the potty not in my replys 😷😷😷
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It has been really hot around here so I’ve been wearing a small tank top dress around the house. Sometimes it rides up or a boob is close to popping out, but it is incredibly humid and we don’t have AC, I’m just trying to stay cool. I get groped non-stop. I wouldn’t mind him putting the moves on me if it was an appropriate time, but this is when I’m doing my makeup, cleaning up, or even doing work. And he turns into a 13 year old boy. He just shows me his boner without any attempt to 1) gauge if I’m in the mood, or 2) try to get me turned on. He just wiggles his boner around all proud of himself like he’s the most seductive man in the world. It really just actually creeps me out. We’ve always been pretty sexually active, and probably are intimate about once every day or two. But this behaviour is such a turnoff I’ve been kind of grossed out lately and s*x has felt like a major chore. I have told him soooooooooooo many times that I don’t appreciate that kind of thing, that it’s immature, and also that I’m allowed to wear whatever I want in my home without being harassed. He does not get the memo. Yesterday, after he followed me into our very small hot bathroom and rubbbed is boner against my butt while I washed my face, I snapped at him. I said “please leave the bathroom, it’s too bloody hot for this, you need to give me space!” He legit had a temper tantrum, stomping his feet and pounding his fists on surfaces! He said “you always reject my love” and I tried to explain that it’s normal for me to have boundaries and it doesn’t mean I’m rejecting anything. He didn’t see it like that and stormed out of the house. Today it is even hotter but I’ll be sure to cover myself so I don’t have to deal with that.
Snapshots:
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