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Stopped reading right there. This person has too much estrogen in its body. Opinion dismissed.
I'm sure burning schools is a productive method to change their opinion.
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always the trans
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time to send in marsey
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That thread yesterday about the Manlet who ratioed himself had me in tears. Some girl wordswordswords posted about his death and literally started his eulogy
“Frist of all, I am an FTM manlet, and as a train I fully understand his pain”
Can’t even write a eulogy without making it about locomotives lmao
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Rent free
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Hey that is what I wrote :( And you got more dramacoins for it than me! Please transfer half of your current income of this post
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Were you baiting with that eulogy?
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No not that
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Dilate lol
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Always this histrionic fricking nonsense about "not being allowed to exist!!!!", as if there's zero distance between thinking someone is strange and Hitlerposting IRL
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You don't understand. Trans zoomers are quantum entities that only exist as long as there is an observer to verify their existence. They need to be in the center of attention at all times otherwise they'll get lost in an endless wave of uncertainty.
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The Peter Pan universe is IRL canon, and fairies only exist if children believe in them.
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I’m not going to get into the online trains, but most trains just want to live their lives. Denying them things like public restrooms and healthcare coverage, and legalizing firing them from their jobs or kicking them out of housing sucks.
The histrionics come from the ones who want woke points but it’s still something that should be considered.
bussy
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they can just use the men’s bathroom. how can I grope their cute femdick if they’re in the other bathroom...
they can’t be denied healthcare coverage anyway, right? Not sure what you mean. They may be denied coverage for, like, hrt or trans surgery, but neither are other non medically necessary ones
This infringes on the rights of landlords.
In general irl
s not being annoying cute twinks doesn’t make being a 
good. It’s still r-slurred
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In some states, you can be denied healthcare if that healthcare violates the providers beliefs. It can be stretched to deny any healthcare in many cases
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there’s no necessary reason they can’t just use normal bathrooms. Gendered bathrooms literally don’t matter at all. Back in my day people just all shat in the same hole
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED TO USE THE GIRLS RESTROOM OR I'LL LITERALLY DIE AHHHHHHHHH
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After reading that comment section i don’t really think they should be allowed to exist but not bc they’re
s, just because of the way they type online
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It’s a slippery slope, mostly because I doused it with Dawn beforehand
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Social media echo chambers and traditional media exaggeration have poisoned our understandings of each other, which is why groups like Bridge are so important. Americans consistently believe their political rivals are far more extreme than they actually are.
So yes, these people genuinely believe that anyone who is moderate to conservative on LGBT rights wants to march them into a death camp.
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I mean, it's a seriouspost, so you disgust me, but it's nice to see that I'm not the only one to think this might be the least useless political organisation to come along for decades.
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Umm, you should know that by putting those emoticons like that it looks like Marsey is shooting the trans flag. Someone could interpret that as transphobic but I'm sure you didn't mean it in that way
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they're the real transphobes for thinking that way sweaty
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On this r/subredditdrama brigading website, we support trans school shooters
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(X24) (in both ways)
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Wtf happened to the animated marseys?! Jannies explain yourself, what do other people even pay you for
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From my heart in ink still bleeding: have this comment. Thanks for reading.
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Marseyshooting isn't animated
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How did your entire nations politics become all about how the 50
s feel about issues.
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its not though, you think the most powerful man in the county (joe manchin) gives a shit about
s?
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God almighty 'marginalized people' are psychologically babies. How do representstives of countries get in a room and negotiate a cease fire when they are at literal war with each other? They aren't just doing faux college libstrag definition of violence to each other. There are actual people dying! And yet somehow they are able to do it. So maybe you, r-slur train, can have a conversation with a republican, you pathetic, mentally ill, 100% man in a dress.
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They absolutely cannot, though. These people don't have logical arguments to support their positions, they have vague feelings and unfunny memes. That's why they're so petrified of even going near a right-winger and why they won't shut up about "right-wing brainwashing" and "radicalization" because they have zero capacity to debate or challenge them.
Rightoids can be equally r-slurred, but for the most part they at least try to debate, and not simply go "wow okay you expect me to actually talk with people I don't agree with sweaty?" because they have strength in their convictions.
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Like if they genuinely believe that it should really be telling them something.
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There was a post on here a few weeks back linking to some guy who was crying about how he had "converted" his whole family to his r-slurred political beliefs, but then a few Shapiro videos was all it took to "brainwash" them back into rightoids. It did not seem to cross his mind for an instant that, if your family can be convinced to swing right by a Shapiro video of all things, his position had to be a complete house of cards.
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Or his family are all fricking idiots.
Or both
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none of those people have any coherent ideas or intelligence they’re all just stupid, has nothing to do with logic or anything
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The same trope in reverse is also kinda funny, i.e. rightoid moral spooks about how liberal agendas are spreading throughout and corrupting academic institutions. If you genuinely believe that the class of people most associated with increased intelligence all buy into some shit, it should be equally telling.
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They won't even talk to people who legitimately want to understand then more than half the time "its not my job to educate you."
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lol no, for the most part they do the exact same shit leftoids do
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When I see zoomer strags talking about their "trauma", it makes me want to actually traumatize them with a baseball bat. Yes, I'm clearly mentally stable and well adjusted.
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I’ve only met a few people that use it/its as pronouns and I was left impressed and terrified in equal measure by each and every one. Too Chad for this world.
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JFC, what a cute twink
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But whoo boy r/TraumaAndPolitics looks like a sub ripe for bait
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I bet you grind in underleveled areas in Final Fantasy 6
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That just sounds inefficient.
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No grinding until you get magicite friendo
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*kupo
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kupo
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Could have a bait sub based on having a therapeutic support group for people who are forced to deal with differing political opinions in their daily lives and the trauma that this induces.
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Jesus Christ if you're goingto make a sub just make one you don't have to be validated by us like a
. I swear half the threads are talking about epic pwning bait subs now.
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Well how else can you claim constant victimhood without framing everything through that one time a guy was mean to you?
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Technically correct, but the silent part is sexual [trauma]
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If we could stop giving student loans to liberal arts majors, that would make me so happy.
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Free college and housing on campus but you need to pass all of calculus and linear algebra.
If you don't then you have to pay all of that + reparations + tip.
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stupidcel cope. it’s just adding and multiplying by scalars. Smh.
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Don’t even need to go that far. Just aggressively bully profs who teach Lacan and Deleuze and shit like that. That’s where half of this “libidinal” critical theory, psychoanalytic horseshit comes from.
/srspost
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Easily bullied soft assed kitties are the people you don't wantto be teachers
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Sending them a nice surprise gift in the mail would be a more permanent and deserved solution.
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you know math is a liberal arts major, right?
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"oh boy I can't wait to use this new math that just came out"
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Unironically this at the peak of tech research.
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Yes and?
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No, I'm kind of r-slurred
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Kind of?
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Why? They go broke and the economy benefits
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We should unironically stop giving student loans.
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I hate this shit so much, Freud and the French needs to be posthumously and retroactively gassed
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We really should have just let the Red Army roll all the way to the Atlantic. Western euro commie, p-do "intellectuals" getting a taste of "That Wasn't Real Communism™" would have been poetic. If USSR had survived, the snow drunks and chinese probably would have already blown the frick out of all of Eurasia with nuclear weapons over some r-slurred border dispute.
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Holy shit this BIPOC has problems. You just know he was hard as a rock writing those posts too.
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You don't type your posts with tongue and peepee?
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"And ideology, Oedipus, and the phallus have nothing to do with this, because they depend on it rather than being its impetus."
Neighbor what?
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I'm... concerned about this person.
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Both sides need to come together and stuff these giant babies in a locker
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Boy the wokies are really really angry that somebody might dare to speak with a college republican.
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It's pretty telling when your position is so fragile you have to resort to the "they dont think we're human" lie to get out of debate. Somehow not believing children's fantasies equals literal violence to these people so hitting them with a simple "you will never be a woman" is a near death experience to them. Pretty funny actually
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Sorry but when drumfdemort's lackeys say ywnbaw (avada kedavra) they are killing REAL people.
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I hope so!
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The backup:
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Darn those numbers are way lower that I would’ve thought
Time to Tedpost
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That 19% is worrying. On the bright side all of the weakest and most easily influenced members are society are gonna off themselves which will create a stronger genetic stock
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Your country was never a nation, and your children will be slaves, just as you are
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Maybe I'm the crazy one but I've never seen openly bigoted conservatives irl
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you must have never been to the American south
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When i moved to the American south i figured out WHY conservatives were bigoted
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Why?
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You really can't guess?
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No sorry. When I took the vaccine it made me r-slurred. Explain please.
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🏀s. Whitoids just mad they can't jump and win on the court.
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That makes sense
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I have, but they are few and far between.
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It's cult behavior. The most dangerous idea to someone who is in a cult is that it might be possible to leave and live outside the cult - that's why Islam punishes apostasy so heavily, for example. So you mustn't interact with the outside world, for fear that it might seem appealing.
The irony is, and it makes me sick to say it, rightoids tend to relish the opportunity to talk to people who disagree with them, while leftoids are terrified of the very suggestion.
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Kufir like you deserve death as well for such blasphemous speech. Islam punishes apostasy so heavily because turning your back on the ultimate truth and light of Allah (swt) is unforgivable and harms the health of the Ummah. Their life has no meaning without joyously giving themselves to His designs, so in truth it is a mercy to release them from the torment of such a hollow existence. Murtads will suffer unimaginable eternal agony in the fires of Jahannam anyways, so in the grand scheme of things, the pain of their rightful execution will be insignificant in comparison to His retribution.
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Inshallah
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Daryl Davis has entered the chat.
Yeah, how many far right nationalists has he de-radicalised vs National-Blueberry51? Actually could we pull stats on how many far right nationalists National-Blueberry51 has created by being a smug and insufferable shit?
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At least 1 today
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They hate it when anyone brings up Davis because they have no way to respond. All they can do is go "NOOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT"
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Just yesterday, Bardy was whining about Mr Davis https://old.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/comments/px69be/cancel_culture_trope_6_the_transitive_property_of/heo4o94/?sort=controversial
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Rehabilitation doesn’t decriminalize felons. The only way to change their behavior is the electric chair.
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Of course, the resident wife beater wouldn't know anything about that sort of situation. AHS is a completely different beast.
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And of course Barfy locks the thread when he gets owned.
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Then I bring up Pardeep Singh Kaleka, There are plenty of examples that empirically prove that their actually pouring more fuel on the fire and making everything worse for everyone because they won't swallow their out of control egos and talk to some who disagrees with them like their actually a person.
Self righteous hypocrites make me seethe like nothing else, I come here purely to see these fricking reeeetards get goofed on.
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What I wouldn't give for a liberal party without all the fricking liberals in it
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Darn Liberals, they ruined Liberalism!
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Ok, I'll bite. inb4 you screech about wordswordswords
To be clear, nobody thinks Daryl Davis has bad intents. But he does more harm than good. Let's look at a number of reasons why...
Daryl Davis isn't as effective at defrocking Klansmen as you think he is
Davis claims he defrocked 200 Klansmen. This has some truth to it but is misleading. Numerous individuals who left the Klan after conversations with Davis noted that they were already questioning their racist beliefs. Davis gave them a push over the edge - a good thing, for sure, but not remotely the revolutionary transformation that you're crediting him with.
In other instances, people who spoke to Davis left the Klan but remained active in racist politics. Or, in a few instances, Davis was just incorrect about them having left (whether he lied or was mistaken, I don't know). For example, Davis claimed that he convinced Richard Preston to leave, but Preston was arrested for firing a gun at Charlottesville. He has claimed that he "dismantled the entire KKK in Maryland," but the KKK is active in Maryland.
Side note: Davis posted Preston's bail. If Davis were an anti-incarceration activist, noting that the carcereal state targets certain groups, that would be praiseworthy. But I know of no examples of Davis posting the bail of any young black man targeted by the white supremacist police. Instead, he got an actively violent racist out of jail. That's who he chose to bail out and put back in society. This is what you call an anti-racist activist?
Which leads into the next point...
Davis looks at racism as an individual problem, not a systemic one
All the great civil rights activists understood that racism wasn't simply a matter of opinions amongst individuals, but structural power issues. To quote Stokely Carmichael:
“If a white man wants to lynch me, that's his problem. If he's got the power to lynch me, that's my problem. Racism is not a question of attitude; it's a question of power. Racism gets its power from capitalism. Thus, if you're anti-racist, whether you know it or not, you must be anti-capitalist. The power for racism, the power for sexism, comes from capitalism, not an attitude.”
There's nothing wrong with changing individual minds - it's a noble task - but it isn't a means of dismantling systems.
Punching racists treats fascism and racism as political, not interpersonal, problems, as it seeks to minimize the presence of racial politics in society by breaking up rallies and the like. Of course, it is not anti-capitalist activism in its entirety, but nobody claims it is. Real anti-racism requires we look at systemic racism, and neither Davis, nor you, have done this.
Besides ... 200 racists (if even that many) since 1983? Great, but hate group membership is skyrocketing, and to try to take these groups apart piece-by-piece, and not in more direct manners, is a waste of time and energy that people targeted by hate groups just can't afford. And that's especially problematic because...
Your reasoning puts the burden of anti-racism on the shoulders of its victims
Let's start by quoting Malcolm X:
"I don’t favor violence. If we could bring about recognition and respect of our people by peaceful means, well and good. Everybody would like to reach his objectives peacefully. But I’m also a realist. The only people in this country who are asked to be nonviolent are black people."
You are asking people who literally just want to exist to bear the burden of changing society, and not the people who commit or advocate for atrocious acts. Why do you have this condescending pacifist tone towards us, and not the Nazis themselves?
Davis has been physically attacked more than once when interacting with Klansmen. He's willing to risk his physical safety, and good and well if he chooses to, but why should anyone have to? Why do we have to bear the violence of people who want to commit it against us just for existing, instead of defending ourselves? Why should we have to put ourselves in danger in the search for an end to that danger?
Further, Davis himself has noted that his privilege in other areas has aided in his task: He said, “Sure, you’re in some uncomfortable environments with people who may not like you or share your views or who think you’re inferior to them because of the color of your skin — or that you have a smaller brain than they do, you’re prone to crime and welfare and selling drugs. You name the stereotype, I’ve heard it. But I know who I am. I don’t have a criminal record. I’ve never sold drugs. I’ve never been on welfare. I have more education than most of them put together.”
Does that mean that black folks who have criminal records, or are on welfare, cannot achieve his ends? Because to me, it sounds like Davis is only successful because he conforms to white expectations of black behavior. Forced assimilation is racist. Black people shouldn't have to meet white racist standards in order to have the right to exist. This, again, puts the burden on the oppressed: Sure, you can be accepted in our society; just behave like us!
In conclusion...
Davis is really just the Klan's token black friend. He enables racists to look reasonable and gaslight the rest of us by suggesting that maybe if we were nicer to the racists, they wouldn't be racists - even though never in history has a white supremacist uprising been quelled without violence. There's no appreciable evidence that he's meaningfully converted anyone, despite all his robes, and he has actively aided the well-being of those who would kill the rest of us. The Nazi Party had "honorary Aryans" - Jews who weren't so bad - and they used these individuals to legitimize their movement by suggesting that, hey, even Jews support the Nazis when those Jews are civilized enough! Davis fits that mold precisely. And by promoting him, you're promoting the idea that we have to risk our lives to serve your pacifist morals. Screw that.
TLDR: pacifism is a cuck mindset and is inapplicable towards extremist ideologies.
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That's great and all, but I asked for my burger without cheese.
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Didn't read lol
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It means it doesn't work on the large majority who's beliefs are solidified, r slur.
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Alright I will bite back.
Your whole argument is based on the fact that Davis might not have been as effective as he claimed to be in which case he still radicalized multiple people which is an improvement.
The argument about he just pushed people over the edge is stupid because by the end of the day he was still the one who helped them make a final push.
As for saying helping individually isn't enough because it's a systemic issue, again it's not an either or issue. You can both help individuals and be against systemic issues. How much you wanna bet a multi pronged approach to solving issues is better than fixing all of them?
As for him helping bail out a guy out of incarceration. That's him willing to stand up for his beliefs and try to reach out to someone he thinks he can help and convince to do better. Maybe he is misguided but that ain't evil.
And your follow up mention of how come he has not done anything similar for some black kid just shows your own biases as if trying to fix up a white supremacist whom he had personal experience with rather than some black boy hes never even met makes him worse. Sounds kind of racist to be quite honest, this unwillingness on your end to recognize that a person you know with a different skin color could have a more intimate relation with you than some kid with the same skin tone you have never met.
So all in all your points are correct but you conclusions are shit. Have a good day.
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The point I'm trying to make is Davis' method doesn't work efficiently. Deplatforming and censoring these people is far more effective, especially an an increasingly online world. I'm a utilitarian, not an idealist with my head in the clouds. I would go for non-violence if possible, but in the fricked up world we live in it's not possible.
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Yeah that's why the incel movement and right wing movements have been gaining support over the past decade in all western nations where social control systems are implemented.
Lemme know when your deplatforming solution brings actual results because all I see from the past decade of efforts is an absolute shitshow.
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https://newswise.com/pdf_docs/162272968911915_deplatforming-websci2021.pdf
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Your pulitzer's in the mail
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Is this a prime example of what they call "internalized sexism/racism"? Basically, the idea that capitalism inherently favors whites/men bakes in the assumption/realization that whites and men are simply better at earning money, right?
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Nobody's better at earning money. Hard work doesn't do shit. The point is that capitalism is built on selfishness and individualism, amplifying those aspects of human nature. This leads to tribalism and racism.
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poorcel cope
non sequitur, how do liberal virtues, especially individualism, lead to tribalism (i.e. group thinking)?
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Earn a billion dollars then.
They lead to exclusionary us-vs-them thinking. "My group should be the dominant one in society and yours shouldn't."
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I should be the one saying that to you, since you seem to think that everybody should be capable of becoming a billionaire
Face it, I'm simply not smart or talented enough
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What? I'm saying in our world the only way to be a billionaire is to get lucky and have rich parents.
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Whey are they so afraid of talking to people that they disagree with? Don’t they see it as an opportunity to persuade misguided conservative students so see the light?
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It's not about being afraid to talk to them, it's that reasoning with an actual fascist movement is wildly r-slurred.
And yes, I don't care what any r-slur le drama centrist thinks, by every understanding of fascism the Trumptard movement is fascist.
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You have never seen a fascist in your life
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Or a vagina
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I dunno, he strikes me as the kind of weirdo that would have open eyes during his own birth.
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Oh God yeah, just wide open and calm. Full of understanding.
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Wait, you’re not OP
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That's a good thing though.
#bussysuperiority
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I do love poorly educated drama users with no idea what fascism even is trying to downplay what Trumptards are.
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He's lived through the fall of Lordaeron and The Black Citadel
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subject matter expert: cryptofascism
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Subject Matter Expert: Postmodern Hate Networks like Rdrama.net
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You have no idea what you're talking about
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Except I do.
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What are your credentials?
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Show me on the doll where the fascist touched you son
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In my soul daddy 🥺
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The word fascist has lost all meaning
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No, I'm actually strictly basing my understanding of why they're fascist on Robert Paxton's anatomy of fascism, a book specifically written to fix bad definitions.
Let me say this again - by literally every understanding of the fascist standard are American Trumptards proto-fascists.
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Okay sure, I don't disagree, but if engagement is useless, what's the alternative? Seems like what the left is doing now is only feeding the fascist's need for victimhood. The only successful deradicalization I'm aware of is engagement.
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someday they’ll just admit they want to kill them all. I’ll have a lot more respect for them when they do.
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It really seems that way. There's no other alternative, right? I'm being 100% serious.
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For real, it's confusing. I like to think that if I genuinely believed what they say they do, I'd being fedposting irl. Everyone who said the U.S. border camps were the new Holocaust weren't making everyone else look like Nazis for allegedly not knowing what was going on, but were admitting that they'd be the complacent ones that they were railing against.
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Someday? Where have you been?
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I wish I had a meme that went something like this, except it'd be "all fascists are nazis, a HS drop outs understanding of political ideology."
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Why are you being so hysterical? Do you need a vibrator?
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He doesn't.
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It had lost all meaning by 1946. Seriously, there was an article or something published still in the '40s complaining that the term had become nothing but a generic political slur with no actual meaning behind it. If you had to write a dictionary definition for it, you'd have to write something like "person with political positions I heavily disagree with", because that's the only consistent way it's used.
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In what way does the Trumptard base not meet the fascist standard?
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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economydictatorial power = where drumpf was never a dicator
forcible suppression of opposition = democrats won in 2020 sweaty
strong regimentation of society and of the economy = check the stock market
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No see
@pizzashill is using the exact same definition of fascism that the rest of the left uses: 'Anyone committing wrongthink that I disagree with'
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upcoining pizza is good manners
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Well, for one, the core, fundamental notion of fascism is that the state stands above everything else, be it family, religion, race, anything. It is a totalitarian ideology first and foremost. For another, the economic system of fascism is, as it's social policy, totalitarian: the market exists only so far as it serves the state, and while it may appear nominally capitalist, the state can and does intervene decisively and directly in the decisions of market players. China's system, basically.
American rightoids are absolutely not the-state-above-all types, and are very much free market types. I'm sorry, but the glove doesn't fit. They're authoritarian conservatives, but fascism is more specific than that.
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Amerirights are libertarian-leaning in general. Sure you got your authy types, but the fundamental ideology is very nosteppysnek, government fek ov, etc. They're anything but fascist.
Also, Trump had every opportunity and justification to use the insurrection act during the 2020 BLM riots and he didn't. It actually pissed off his authier fanbase. The man is a lot of things (idiot, narcissist, fricking hilarious, etc), but he's not a fascist.
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My god man you people have no clue whatr you are talking about.
No, it is not a fundamental notion of fascism before fascists obtain power. Fascism is primarily a set of emotional traits and national mood - the stuff you're talking about comes after.
The Trumptard base is fundamentally authoritarian and in favor of government authoritarianism, as long as it targets the right people. Rather than adherence to the state, fascists primarily operate via cult of personality and said cult serves as the avatar of the nation, the people.
Hannah Arendt, on totalitarianism:
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And my point is you have no idea what fascism is. Fascism, again, is a set of emotional traits, a national mood, with a completely fluid set of goals until they obtain power.
You're also again, confusing the idea of the state with the idea of the nation and the people. Trumptards are absolutely hyper-nationalists that believe the nation comes above all else and any action is justified in defense of the nation and the ideas they associate with the nation.
And Trump - as their avatar of the nation, has absolute loyalty from them. When he speaks, they listen. His core base will believe anything he says, do anything he tells them to do.
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I'd quote some Mussolini at you but why bother, you'd just say he doesn't know what fascism is either.
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You could quote him if you'd like, here let me do it for you:
This is what II mean, fascism is not a doctrine.
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Fascism not having a stated, formal doctrine or program doesn't mean it has no hallmarks beside being "a feeling" (LOL).
That idea, or "feeling" if it makes you happy, doesn't sit well with American rightoids in general, nor even Trump's fanclub. They want their strongman leader, sure, but they don't want a big , "all-embracing" state.
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Isnt that burden of proof kinda on you? Never mind i don’t wanna read the essaypost explaining why making fun of CNN is fashyzm
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I wish
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Daryl Davis talked 200 members of the KKK into hanging up their robes, you daft c*nt. Talking works.
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That's amazing, the KKK is not a fascist movement, they're just right-wing social conservative racists.
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Lol ur dumb
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Because it's way harder to actually address the arguments that someone is making in ways that are likely to be persuasive to them than it is to just strawmen them as fundamentally immune to reason and being beneath your efforts.
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So close...
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How can someone write that sentence while stating outright that they're not willing to have a conversation with "the other side"? Like, seriously, how?
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