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Someone mentioned "Code is Law" in some thread. Millennials might understand the reference.

I don't know if Zoomers understand: there used to be cause for optimism.

There was actually a period of time where working at a startup to change the world for the better was something sincerely believed. I believed it. Took my first startup to disabuse me of that notion, but the dream lived on for a while.

I don't know if I'm making it clear: people with independent minds and people who abhorred the corporate state had this option to go through some soul-searching, come back from it to say very seriously, "I think I want to start a company or join a company which is just getting going because I want to change the world for the better" and your family would be proud of you.

That was a thing that happened to people.

It makes me laugh too!

But all of these websites were going up and these industries were actually having their asses kicked.

The years turned. The corporate world recovered.

And the corporate world was let in by one group of people. One detestable group of people.

I am of course seething at the bleakly horrible individuals of YCombinator, whose extrusion online is known to the Wise as the Orange Site.

Never forget that it is a bastion of the enemy.

They provided the corporate state with its inroads into the old Silicon Valley, which I never saw, being a Millennial and now Internet Old Frick. And they found every corner of value and they made a mockery of the creativity and power which resided there.

The way it works is this: you pitch your idea, and they give you a dab of money in order to work nonstop for two years to build a company, and they take a small cut of the ownership. You'll hardly notice the first cut, but you should have walked away rather than enter into a deal with an Investor.

Because Investors... they are not human. And you must never, ever forget this fact.

It is the terrible truth of money that if you possess enough of it (and it's hard to say how much exactly), your soul collapses into a black hole and joins the Eldritch Horror which rules this land and acts through meat suits, and if your soul collapses into a black hole that is when the meat suit is fully occupied.

It's hard to say how much exactly it takes because people sell their souls, if they're not careful, to get even a touch of the money black hole. One touch might be enough to feed you and your family for the rest of your lives... but it also might be the touch which drags you down to heck.

Such was Life in America.

The first cut is how they get you used to the cutting, and that first dab of financial solvency is the delirious anesthetic taking hold.

The next cut is called a Series A. They already own you. You took their money. And if you take a little more your company will be more impressive, have more grand ambition.

So you sign away another piece of the pie.

Founding a company was a good way to get rich, if you were as good as you thought you were. But make no mistake: you are being had.

It's their company: they're just paying you to work it.

Every Founder is a serf. It's only after they walk away rich that they become barons: freeholding individuals. Until then, if they make it, they're sharecroppers working a virtual field. The parameters of that field are well defined, which is how the corporatism comes in.

If you're Series A, you're ready for your little minion of Magog, your Gog-spawn, to EVOLVE, and your pal the Investor knows the right tricks for your minion to perform to train it up a level. Some of the first people involved might see baron-level wealth, but they'll be driven out or replaced by the entrance of the corporatism: that's the point of making you apply for a series A.

Series A, then B, then C. Each an evolution, and if your fell contraption born of financial wizardry does not starve it emerges full-fleshed into the light with a C tier of executives and suits.

The system reproduces the elements of the system: that's how there got to be this system everywhere.

Baron-level wealth is really where the line of having your soul collapsed lives, though it's hard to pin down exactly where within: you have enough money to get more or less anything you want but you are a piece on the board at best and if you play your cards right you can exit the game altogether because you're mostly the uber-consumer. There are wealthy barons with pure-ish souls (for humans), and there are poor barons who are possessed entirely by torturing demons. They cannot be saved but by the destruction of their wealth, and this their wealth will. not. allow. (This is the first command of money, the god of capitalism: thou shalt not waste money.)

UMC isn't baron level wealth. If you live in a suburb you are not wealthy. If you live in a nice suburb you are not wealthy.

I'm going to hit UMC and grow my own food. If I've made it in time. If things turn out just right. "Buy the dip."

Might even disconnect the Internet. Who needs it? I have a duty to discharge what I might, but that's it.

UMC wealth isn't hard to obtain provided you are capable of reading books, which you might not be. Access might be going out of sight for a while. Key to UMC wealth is having a career. Complete dolts can have a career if they can be reliable workers in a trade. People need to pay other people, not because a machine can't be trained to do the work, but because people trust other people. The best defense you have against starvation is being useful.

But true wealth is being at the other end of the table: investing in companies. Some barons try their hand at the game. Angel investors. Some of them made it to true wealth that way.

And they enter the generational game, bound by the dragon Azmodeus to the clan of their birth. Feuds which play out over generations. Brilliant drama, all locked up behind silence bought with pricy lawyers. Fiction only contains normal realities.

Thus did the optimism of the early Internet die, caught captive on walled gardens operated by the fell egregores of the Ministers of the American State, servants only to almighty capital. You don't have to hate capitalism but you also don't have to perform oral fellatio on it online. The left may be full of self-righteous egotists but at least they can identify that which is righteous.

"Code is Law." The code that defines a space comprises the law of the place. Pay your homage to @Aevann the Even-Handed, for he crafts the law of this place and is a god unto himself while within this demesne. "Code is Law" read Satoshi before he wrote the code that became Bitcoin (I fricking guarantee you he read it) which led, incredibly, to the minting of some new barons.

"Code is Law" said the wise counsel Lessig, whose journey before the Judicial Council of the land was a major drama for those with the eye to watch, as were his regrets that he failed to make his case to the old relics of the institution that would prove stronger, in its overbearing inexorable sweep, than the Internet could be.

You still look to hope?

Well of course you do. Here there still lives some fragment of that old Internet, and what I want the zoomers to understand, though, is that hope isn't enough.

Optimism will just lead you down the wrong path.

We had hope and optimism then, when "Code is Law" came out.

And we ended up here.

We had hope and optimism then, when OWS rang loud.

And we ended up here.

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This is what Steveโ€™s Jobs cancer looked like

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HA! first solid laugh you frickers have given me this entire post

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Thank you

your post oddly relatable

which I hope I wait long enough to reply to without being called mean names

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Wow it took me to a google search for "Code is Law"

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Let people find out wisdom on their own

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Google Lawrence Lessig. The DNC railroaded him in 2016!

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tl dr I just want those marseys up top

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Buy Bitcoin.


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Not now, Snappy...

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I'm happy for you and/or sorry that happened.


:#marseyklennycross:

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It's not that it's plagiarism it's that the audience won't laugh at the same joke twice even if you try and fudge the words

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No shit it's a repeated joke. It's from a meme.

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What's a meme?

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Jokes for stupid/unoriginal people.

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Darn straight

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If you get this response so much maybe it's time to take the hint.


:#marseyklennycross:

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I take the hint of seethe and I feed off it.

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Cope. Seethe, maybe. Even, perhaps, dilate

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Dilating marsey when?

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haha!

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Heh, smartass :marseysigh:

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๐Ÿ˜ฑOh no๐Ÿ˜ฑ! "People" are investing in technology :marseyunabomber: ! Nerds are actually producing value instead of wasting time on pointless moonshots :marseycapitalistmanlet: ! The world has literally never been bleaker, egads! :marseyscared:

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Homeless people are piling up, shit is bleak.

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What's your solution to this?

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There isn't any. The economy has crashed, it just hasn't crumpled yet

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I'm employed. Are you not?

Do you blame gentrification for the housing shortage, or?

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Read Debord, Society of the Spectacle. It'll either make stuff click for you so you stop asking nonsensical questions, or some other book will. For me that book meant I didn't have to write a book describing what I saw.

Gentrification is a process. Capitalism is a process. The human slime mold grows inexorably across the landscape until the combustion process consumes the available fuel.

Boomers holding onto houses and millennials looking to purchase is a factor though

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"Um, educate yourself sweaty" :marseylaugh:

Asking me to read a book from 1967 from a marxist philosopher & critical theorist gave me a good chuckle.

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Kk but every time you ask a question you wouldn't ask if you had the patience to read a book I'm going to tell you to read a book

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Telling someone to read a 53 year old book to explain a fairly recent economic situation ("b-b-but this has been brewing for decades!") that seems to be in large part the result of the downsides of a fairly modern development (global economic system) is unironically r-slurred. Further, the book appears to be nearly 50,000 words (downloaded a PDF, took a word count). Average person can read 250 words per minute. Asking someone to engage in nearly 3.5 hours of near-constant reading (this is unlikely because leftoids are known to generate wordy incomprehensible nonsense, so the time estimate should be doubled at minimum) to participate in an internet argument is even more unironically r-slurred.

A poor capacity for setting reasonable expectations, numerical illiteracy - something I'd expect from a leftoid. You fit the archetype perfectly. :marseythinkorino:

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Debourd is the only critical theorist worth reading. Seriously.

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Is he not a socialist?

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its not entirely relevant to this but i think capitalist realism was probably the best way to understand the situation as a whole, speaking as a leftoid

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This is doomerist brainrot. Gentrification and the associated destruction of communities happens because we have property taxes instead of land value taxes.

It's all fixable if people would keep their eye on the ball.

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fair point or at least a point worth considering

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I've heard of that book... is it anything like Culture Of Critique?

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Culture of Critique is the only critical theory i read

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so you stop asking nonsensical questions

hardly nonsensical

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How are you unemployed? Everyone is hiring and at super high rates.

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Where did I say I'm unemployed?

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I said I'm employed. How did you read unemployed?

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Reintroduction of a natural predator into the ecosystem or ranger-managed population control.

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Can't un-smoke the holes in their brain.

Every kid growing up in the 90s took DARE and learned heroin will ruin your life, so no sympathy for those who "self medicated" to avoid rehab.

People are stupid and will never learn. How many Michael Browns need to be front-page news before people learn stop trying to attack an armed police officer, he will shoot you?

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You don't get it... if you're black the police will just shoot you for no reason. Really your only chance for survival is to attack first and hope you win

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Just don't be black, duh

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Can someone do a "how is being black even real" pasta for me? I forget how that one goes

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Land Value Tax and federally enforced upzoning. Leftoid brainlets are so clouded by envy that they can only concentrate on destroying the successful instead of fixing the problem.

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San Francels will adamantly repeat that the solution to homelessness isn't building more houses. That should tell you precisely what the real solution is.

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Thunderdome

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Tax writeoffs for running over homeless. Highest payment for fertile female homeless, less for fertile males and least for infertile variants of both groups.

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They just need to be culled.

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Nerds need to do what they were doing before: helping the poor

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this but unironically

nerds arent producing value lol, theyre making u buy products that u dont even need (i.e. consumerism)

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The vast majority of development take place in regular companies. This absolutely does produce real value. Anybody who focuses solely on frivolous web apps when trying to assess the software industry as a whole has no idea what they're talking about.

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Idk, the absence of an uniform office work flow or accounting software like microsoft for gui os makes me think IT corps know they can fleece corporates and government for copy pasting the same work they did a dozen times before cause corporate execs and bureaucrats are all tech illiterates.

A lot of work in IT is make belief. Heck there's like a dozen government owned banks here and they all have their own custom software. Why, who knows. And they're all shit. It's been 20 years since banks were forced to computerize and their servers still are down like 50% of the time I have some work.

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absence of an uniform ________

Take this comic and apply it everywhere. Then add in a bunch of client employees who want a very particular functionality. Or some executive who wants to cram even more enterprise functionality into a base toolset. Or all the other unique demands placed on a software company by major customers.

they all have their own custom software

This isn't the IT companies' fault. This is the customers' demands. Major IT companies would love if clients could actually all catch up to consolidated standards because then they wouldn't need to maintain all kinds of legacy shit for these dozens of companies. Do you know how many times Windows has tried to kill MS Access? It's the fricking customers demanding that hot shit stays updated.

I know it's clusterfrick but quite frankly, you can go frick yourself for blaming that on software developers. The software industry hates this kind of shit but the customers are all excruciatingly unique in the ways in which they can demand tailored solutions for client-specific conditions.

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You say that but I hear how much they charged for a piece of shit website that looks like it was made by a downie with a dial up in 1999 and it makes me rage. Literal fricking plain text website, a few scrolling notices here and there nothing intensive. Charged $10K and a dollar has 3 times higher purchasing power here than in burgerland. Tenders were restricted to 'recognised' bidders only. The one who made it is a 1k+ staff firm. Keeps an employee permanently on 'maintaining' said plain text site. The notices get updated once every two weeks, that's the only work he has.

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Tenders were restricted to 'recognised' bidders only.

This sounds like a problem with this company's procurement process, not the software industry as a whole.

And yes, there are plenty of shitty software companies that attach themselves to limited competition opportunities like this. Government subcontractors are like this in general.

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idc about frivolous web apps. a nerd doesnt plant crops, drive trucks, keep the electricity going etc.

theyre producing nothing of real value. not even entertainment. most of what they produce is for the sake of production.

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most of what they produce is for the sake of production

...they produce technology to increase human productivity. This is the essence of industrialization going back to the 17th century.

a nerd doesnt plant crops, drive trucks, keep the electricity going etc.

They make all of these things more efficient to free up resources to expand production of these resources.

You do realize that engineers of all kinds are routinely developers? Actually, some degree of programming experience tied to a particular engineering tool (e.g. AutoCad) is a prerequisite for being an engineer these days. Do you also realize that they, themselves, also depend on software developers in other areas to facilitate their work. Software isn't a self, contained industry, anymore. Every company is a software company. It's as integral as accounting or custodial staff for a company.

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Well, at least the money helps with the coping.

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It's as integral as accounting or custodial staff for a company.

So barely necessary compared to Marketing & Sales?

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Accounting is legally necessary. Marketing and sales are fundamentally necessary.

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I didn't want to use marketing as an example since they're a meme, but as integral as the sales department at most companies.

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they produce technology to increase human productivity

Lol sweaty no

You can see the computer age everywhere but in the productivity statistics

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muh Solow's paradox

I knew someone would bring this up eventually.

Also, did you even look at the Brookings paper you linked?

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:chadno:

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Hmm, well played.

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22 year old article.

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no

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a nerd doesnt [...] keep the electricity going

Engineers don't work at power plants? :marseylaugh:

plant crops

Much of modern agriculture literally is automated now thanks to the efforts of nerds.

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If you actually believe this, there's a Mexican wall I'd like to sell you.

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Believe what? That there are engineers at power plants?

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> modern agriculture literally is automated now

Fricking lolz. Spoken like a true gringo frick who has never picked a darn thing in his life.

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You're right, I've never picked strawberries.

It's sad that every other industry has benefited from automation to one degree or another while agriculture hasn't. Farmers still manually prep the soil, sow seeds, irrigate, and pick their crops - all by hand - while other industries have benefited from the efforts of nerds - industrialization. :marseycry:

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lmao

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:marseycope:

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> producing things for the sake of producing other things is bad

this is why you work at McDonalds

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lol

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How have so many of you r-slurs still not accepted that this works until it doesn't? We have been in Wile E Coyote economics for a decade now, and just because we haven't fallen off the cliff yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

We are still behind in solving the problems that need to be solved in order to keep up this rampant growth, let alone avert disaster, and yet we keep twiddling our thumbs as if any of us are actually going to get any value out of our 401ks.

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How have your r-slurs still not accepted that this works until it doesn't?

...what the frick are you talking about?

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No! What the frick are you talking about?!

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I honestly don't know what you're referring to. Are you talking about speculative angel investments in tech IPOs? Yeah, that stuff is pretty bullshit. I'm talking about the developers trying to help a company move away from horrific MS Access queries. Or the developers replacing multiple slap-dash software services with a cohesive framework. There is a seemingly endless supply of these kinds of improvement opportunities across all businesses.

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It's their company: they're just paying you to work it.

So now you mod on reddit, right?

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He has a blog that no one reads as well. :marseylaugh:

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Says the person who actually read my blog

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You're sure about that? :marseythinkorino:

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Well I appreciate the advertising regardless

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In the 'any publicity is good publicity' sense, I guess?

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Yeah man. Reality is it's easy to write a blog. I was around for the invention of the blog you know. That's how old I am.

Once you've pulled a few thousand pageviews you realize it's easy to get attention. I've had a hundred thousand people read my shit. You frickers don't scare me. Nor am I ever going to worry about being ignored.

To make it big requires dedication and there's more money in being a working stiff, plus the worst part of any publicity is the shitheads.

The biggest risk of blogging is getting full of yourself because of your internet popularity. So I keep to the shadows, and my name is known only in places like these.

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The biggest risk of blogging is getting full of yourself because of your internet popularity. So I keep to the shadows, and my name is known only in places like these.

You're only known for being full of yourself in places like these?

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Haha bingo

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If you ever grow up to regret your current self the blog will remain as a burning brand of embarrassment though. I used to be proud of some fanfiction I used to write, then I got tired and stopped. Was reading some of them again and its so fricking cringe I want to kms. Still, I have a lot of hits and even recently people have commented asking for a continuation so I can't bring myself to delete the account.

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yeah there needs to be an introduction to internet writing and in it they need to just copy paste

DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE DO NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE

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reddit

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TLDR Azealia Banks said all this but coherently.

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I think you're misreading a little

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AOC singlehandedly ruined NYC

How is everything that Azealia Banks says this incredibly dramatic? Queen ๐Ÿ‘‘

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You sound like a failed entrepreneur who is jealous of the success of others, even though y'all used the same means for acquiring wealth. Think long on your failures, cope and seethe, but don't forget to carry on.

I didn't read the rest after the YT Combo bit, but I'd definitely drop the "Code is Law" mantra because that's clearly not helping.

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Lmao you illiterate

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Literacy is an Attack Surface

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Fair I guess

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yes

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Believing that Impy has any talent beyond endless wordswordswords posting is a common mistake. Many such cases.

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As a zoomer, I read all of it, but understood very little.

The corporatization of tech startups was inevitable. If it can be corporatized, it will be. Anyone who fell for the startup meme after 2000 is an r-slur that deserves to be homeless in the streets of LA.

I'd say that making money using the internet has stopped at this point. There's no waves of innovation. Any new popular apps or websites are just reskins of their competitors with some surface level features added to hook in zoomers. The new/old internet issue is bullshit. Things change, internet included.

That being said, none of this effects me, so I don't care. I'm a cattle farmer in a rural shithole. As long as I stay anonymous, nothing that happens on the internet will have even a slight impact on my life.

I'm content being an anonymous spectator. Internet drama, culture war, social media, influencers, politics, real life wars are all games I'm spectating. I root for teams, celebrate when my team wins, and pretend to be devastated when my team loses. But at the end of the day, I had no impact on the games, and they had no impact on me. Some people play the games thinking they can make an impact. They spend hours arguing online, reading political theory, campaigning for what they believe in, stalking influencers, sharing their beliefs on social media, and some even join the military to "fight for their country". The only way I'd even consider doing any of that nowadays is if it somehow benefited me. Maybe I'm a narcissist, but in the modern world, you have to put yourself first, above all else. Otherwise you end up as bardfinn, or some other pathetic neet.

TLDR, who gives a shit, none of this affects me.

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Small world best world, unironically.

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Sorry ma'am, looks like his delusions have gotten worse. We'll have to admit him,

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As a zoomer, I read all of it, but understood very little.

Yeah that's the hard part, the part I think that makes my work a bit weak. Millennials understood me, some zoomers might, but your lack of understanding is the point. How could there be a time where people fell for the startup meme? That's how much things have changed.

TLDR, who gives a shit, none of this affects me.

Who you trying to convince son? Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

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