only autists think that stating facts carries no agenda

On one hand, it's kind of true. Consider coming home to your wife and she says that the faucet in the kitchen is leaking, Jupiter has 49 known moons, and my mother's birthday is next week. You'd think that she has a stroke, despite the fact that all her statements just state facts. No other animal even has the ability to "state facts", all their languages are instinctive and aiming at provoking certain behavior from others, like a meerkat producing a cry to warn about a particular kind of predator. I suppose that humans gained this ability relatively late in our evolutionary history and of course still mostly only pretend to use it.

However which agenda that is you can't determine purely from the facts stated. Consider some ape scientists who discovered that gorillas have so called omega males that don't participate in the male hierarchy but reproduce by raping female gorillas while males are out hunting or whatever, I'm not an ape scientist (and I'm not sure about which apes, but the research is real). Then r/mensrights link it and say that see, r*pe is natural and should be legalized. Then some feminists link that and get the ape scientists fired for stating misogynist facts. On the other hand a blog called witchwind or something links it and says, see, men are naturally male feminists, we should castrate all male babies, snip-snip and freeze their little testes in case we can't figure parthenogenesis soon enough, which also produces some reaction from r/TiA.

Those two are pretty evil takes, but it's the interestingly opposite kinds of evil, the facts are somehow simultaneously misogynist and misandrist. One could then imagine a non-evil take that says that this means that unfortunately banning "the revenge of the nerds" is not enough, men are innately predisposed to r*pe and should be taught about it, causing some discomfort but preventing some r*pes. Of course in practice it's very difficult to make sure that this isn't implemented by the kind of feminists who see it as a compensation for not being allowed to castrate all male babies, causing much more harm than good, but still, in an ideal world...

This is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is–ought_problem and while at the first blush it seems like a Descartian sophomoric stoner take, like, mang, we can't really know anything because what if all our senses are controlled by a deceiving daemon, really it's super intensely practical, like 80% of all culture war is people arguing about facts because they don't like the agendas they implicitly assume for themselves or for their opponents to follow from the facts.

You can link these words words words from your post for all the commenters who are upset about the change of pace.

>me composing a response to this post

Stfu

"The average drunk driver drives under the influence more than 80 times before being arrested the first time."

I'm shilling big liquor

It's a step for young racists before they graduate to full on Sailer posting

My favorite recent from him:

https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1447362795234676753

Here is a fact:

Bussy is superior . Admit it, imp!

Unreal. Impy has embraced the wonders of brevity.

Only autists can't recognize that it's deliberately disingenuous when we claim otherwise

Look at this fricking loser thinking discourse is founded in honesty lmfao

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(taking a puff of helium): facts dont care about your feelings

In 2013, more people died while walking drunk than driving drunk despite even though drunk walkers travel 5x shorter distances than drunk drivers.

MuH AgEnDaPoStEr p:

Proof? Pretty sure everyone does this. See the endless screams of "trust the science" as if a scientific study is agenda free.

2 b fair, just because a post is stating facts doesn't mean it's not propaganda/an agenda post, how something is presented is like 90% of what makes something propaganda

Me massaging, misinterpreting and manipulating facts because I am Agendafluid.

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Let me tell you this-- rdrama.net is one of the most malevolent, cruel, coldhearted online communities you'll ever find, and even as a supporter of free speech it appalls me that the internet would allow such a vile, festering hub of bigotry and sadism to exist. You think [slur]town was bad? That website, if you pick up on the dog-whistles (and many don't even bother with that-- say want you want about Stormfront, at least it bans "n[slur]"), will reveal itself to you as the internet's number one hub for the web's most hardened Nazis, Klansmen, Fascists, and G*mergaters. You'll notice on the description that it encourages members to be as dramatic as possible. That's intentional. They encourage arguments in the comments section. That's intentional. You know the Three Minute Hate (it's from this underrated book 1985, give it a read, it's scary how much it parallels our society)? It's like that, they want to stoke the flames of reactionary rage so they continue to dogpile every progressive and minority who enters the website, normalizing these evil feelings. They brigade from website to website, having an entire cabal of admins spanning hundreds of communities, gaslighting lived experiences of the oppressed and unashamedly bolstering the internet's white supremacy movement. They've kink-shamed hundreds of people too, some even... to death. I fear that rdrama.net may be producing an entire army of Dylann Roofs and Elliot Rogers, and I highly suggest that nobody dares visit that horrible website, lest you potentially fall victim to its corruptive aura.

No one says stating facts carries no agenda, they state facts to make it seem like their agenda was the natural conclusion from the data available.

OP tilting at windmills.