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Good for him for refusing to compromise his creative vision in the face of meaningless woman-whining, this attitude is probably why he was able to make the second good Craig Bond movie.


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Skyfall? No idea who directed that but it and Casino Royale were the decent ones.


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Skyfall was great if you want a movie where Bond is a frickup r-slur who loses and fails, which I guess is probably some meaningful percent of the audience.


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I liked that M died. It was very unexpected and I love Judy Dench and I felt they sent her M off well.


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It's r-slurred when the villain's only goal is killing M and he successfully does that.

Then Bond shoots him but it doesn't matter because he was literally suicidal and going to shoot himself.

They should have had Judi DeMch go out saving the world from a bad dude or at least accomplishing any goal beyond her death, not getting hunted by an angry psycho and gunned down like a dog.

EDIT: Skyfall was by far the prettiest Craig movie, which I think is mostly why people love it, but the whole plot massively triggers my autism.


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James Bond is capeshit for Bongophiles.

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James Bond is a fantasy projection that allows Bongoids to think they could have s*x with women above a 2/10 if they temporarily ceased being poor, lazy, and provincial long enough to leave their tiny island in the North Sea.

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I think that part was fine, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having the bad guy win once in a while, especially since (unlike in Marvel) it actually sticks.

What was dumber is that the bad guy was prescient to the point who that he could do things like plan exactly where to plant explosives to hit Bond with a subway presumably days later.

I think I give the edge to Quantum just because it had that one frog actress who shows her tits in every other movie.


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was it actually good

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I liked it, although my judgment could be skewed from the fact that there hasn't been a non-awful Bond movie since Royale.


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what didnt u like about skyfall

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Bond loses.


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i thought you were going to say something more substantial like how on the nose and inappropriate the meta storytelling elements are

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I feel like all of that is summed up adequately by "Bond loses."

It's not a Bond movie as much as a deconstruction of Bond movies, which isn't what I want when I go to see a Bond movie.

Somewhere there's a guy who loves it for all the reasons I hate it, but I'm not that guy.


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see i feel like i dont mind if they deconstructed Bond movies because Goldeneye is fantastic, but Skyfall I think is too reliant on it being a metaphor for the series having to get its groove back. With Goldeneye the deconstruction is in pointing out the character's flaws and the flaws in the government he works for, which the movie itself sets up so you understand. with skyfall you need to not only be familiar with Bond movies but catch what it's trying to do to like it

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See, I don't mind that Goldeneye is a deconstruction because in that movie Bond kicks butt and wins.

In Skyfall Bond gets shot, fricks up a lot and then loses, that's not what I want to see regardless of the reason for it.


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the only bond movie that i watched completely from start to finish was the most recent one-no time to die

are they all this shite?

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Casino Royale (the first one with Craig) is good.

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