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The Joe Rogan sub is so filled with soy right now it's unreal.

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Unless you actively prevent it, it just seeps into everything

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It doesn't help that the mods there are the cutest twinks who ever sucked a frick.

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Wait really? I'm in the wrong subs


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No not really. They moderate a Joe Rogan sub. :marseycry:

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I don't think your understand how much I love cute twinks to suck a frick


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If you bag one, Homocracy, you tell us if they tasted of soy.

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You know how soy tastes?

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It's not inevitable, reddit just keeps enough of a thumb on the scales to make sure they have the userbase they want.


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Horseshoe Theory confirmed again

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Hmmmmmmmmm

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At least in the subs I visit, it’s amazing to me that Reddit manages to be less toxic than, say, many political Facebook memes. You’d think the anonymity would give people more license to go off the rails, but I think the combination of karma, nested comment threads and easy sourcing all contribute to more grounded and good faith conversations than other apps.

Still not as good as real life, and certainly not perfect, but as a latecomer to Reddit this app is a godsend for somebody who likes conversing in forums, but hates everything else about the layout of forums.

 

Posts in:

r/HermanCainAward

r/WhitePeopleTwitter

r/politics

r/antiwork

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Antiwork is like pro-anorexia, but for depression and diabetes.

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go reply to his post and say:

r/selfawarewolves

nothing makes lefty redditors more angry.

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Some guy in the comments called reddit an "app."

Got shivers up my spine.

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reminds me of the story of the university professor who had students complain that some download didnt work. And the professor said: ok well where did you download the file to, what folder is it in?

and the zoomer r-slurs were like: "what's a file?"

apple has ruined our kids

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Imagine actively sitting down at a computer to use r*ddit :marseysick: :marseysick:

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Imagine using reddit.

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Phoneposters delenta est

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Calling it "horse dewormer" is dumb, but it's still an anti-parasite drug. Unless one of these rightoids can explain to me the mechanism by which an anti-parasite drug can combat a fricking virus, I'm still going to consider Iv*rmectin treatment to be stupid. If you get COVID, just so the same shit you'd do with the flu. If you don't survive, that's your fault for being a weak link.

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I don't believe in it but just because something is an anti-parasite drug doesn't mean that it can't do other things. Drugs aren't some sort of nanomachines that go into your body and fix one specific problem. Drugs produce a variety of reactions and can turn out to do other things than what they were originally made to do. Just because a drug is an anti-parasite drug doesn't mean it can't also have anti-viral properties. Of course none of this has been found out yet, but it isn't some situation that is impossible to occur, it's something that happens quite often.


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nanomachines

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>Drugs aren't some sort of nanomachines that go into your body and fix one specific problem

What we currently know as "nanomachines" are (hypothetically) engineered collections of molecules that chemically interact with the target pathogen. Actually, the only theoretical "nano machines" are basically just repurposed viruses. If I*rmectin actually works, then those pushing it as a treatment should specify the chemical process by which it neutralizes a virus. Typically anti-viral drugs are engineered toward a specific family of viruses. That's how hard it is to get rid of a virus.

Someone more knowledgeable could go into how obscenely difficult viruses are to treat with specific molecular compositions, but I suspect most rightoids taking this shit are just taking the word of whichever quack is going against the mainstream.

The idea that some random molecule can miraculously destroy a virus is pants-on-head stupid. I'm not going to sugarcoat that just because some dipshit rightoids are feeling particularly conspiratorial and contrarian in [Current Year].

>Just because a drug is an anti-parasite drug doesn't mean it can't also have anti-viral properties.

The odds of some random anti-parasite drug being able to combat a coronavirus are fricking insane. So yeah, it's entirely reasonable to ask for some goddarn logic to back an insane claim.

>it's something that happens quite often

lol when

HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK PEEPEES

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People didn't pick Iv*rmectin out of a hat, it showed preliminary promise in clinical trials.


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People have been championing Iv*rmectin (frick the autojanny for going after that word) for over a year. How could it have convincing clinical trials so early?

If it (or some derivative) ends up producing good clinical trials, then great. That's evidence.

All I want is some good evidence that isn't overblown by wingcucks. I'm so sick of science being abused by wingcuck dipshits. I'm inherently suspicious of terminal rightoid claims because these days they will cling to any Rense-esque bullshit that validates their paranoia.

The only right amount of paranoia is my level of paranoia lol. Kidding aside, the CDC has screwed the pooch a with its messaging a number of times over the past year and a half. However, I'm not going to jump on anyone's bandwagon just because I don't trust the opposing party.

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I didn't said it had awesome bulletproof evidence I said it had preliminary promise.

Right wingers completely ran away with it and it still hasn't been proven either effective or ineffective but you're out here saying it's IN POSSIBLE like darn neighbor you don't know either.

It kills corona in vitro, but according to the smart guy I asked about it that doesn't mean much, and they're still waiting on anything meaningful.


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Technically I said that the odds are insane, but your point still stands. I just want people to base their convictions on some kind of evidence. Otherwise, we might as well return to alchemy.

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you have no clue about the topic but very strong opinions

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The fact that Pfizer recently came out with a more expensive knockoff that produces the same reaction as "lol horse drug" (eat shit jannies) as an alternative form of Covid treatment tells me that there was probably some validity to it after all.

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How could it have convincing clinical trials so early?

Can't this be said about any covid treatment?

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Vaccines are a proven anti-viral treatment because they use the actual genetic content of the virus to produce antibodies. Anti-viral medications, on the other hand, must counteract specific molecular properties of the virus itself.

The difference is akin to reverse-engineering vs. inventing a new solution.

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mRNA vaccines don't use the virus itself, they're the new solution. https://cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

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Don't they still use a genetic sequence generated via the virus itself? I'm too stupid to appreciate RNA vs DNA and whatnot, but to me, the basis is still similar: utilize the genetic structure of the virus to generate antibodies, proteins that can bind to the actual virus to neutralize it.

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Watching you take Ls in a conversation where people agree with you has gone well with coffee.

It’s okay to support a medical consensus without knowing how the specific pharmaceuticals work, honey bunny.

The mRNA vaccine provides non-viral material that mimic the shape and size of virus proteins so your body is able to practice a strong response on tiny training dummies.


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I folded pretty quickly after the first comment so I wouldn't really count the subsequent comments as Ls. However, I'm glad you got some enjoyment out of it all.

It’s okay to support a medical consensus without knowing how the specific pharmaceuticals work, honey bunny.

I was previously under the impression that the consensus surrounding Iv*rmectin was akin to the "consensus" on vaccines and autism. Clearly I was wrong.

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Covid has been an embarrassment for the human race. Turns out humans go crazy in isolation

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That's an entirely different matter, one in which I agree.

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People have been championing vaccines for over a year. How could they have convincing clinical trials so early?

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Mate it's prescribed by GPs in multiple countries(inc mine) and doesn't seem to harm, at least, and likely helps given that so many GPs are using it. The science behind it is as solid as the science behind the vaccines. Which went from 100% efficacy to 99% to 80% to what is it now, 45% after six months lol? The fact that the WHO led by that corrupt chink sock puppet hates it makes me like it unironically.

https://theprint.in/opinion/who-and-china-tedros-past-worrying-how-india-fell-for-it/400945/

Remember back when the r-slur at the top of the organization that bungled everything about this memedemic began crying about some island chinks calling him a BIPOC on live tv and all the journos ate it up.

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I just went and looked him up again after you reminded me of his early COVID bungling, turns out that motherlover is still head of the WHO and likely to continue his term. International organizations are a joke.

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He's a glowie, why would he be dismissed for fulfilling his mission objectives. If China didn't plan this leak, it has to be one of the most fortunate coincidences in recent history that they just so happened to have gone all out diplomatically to get the one guy into office who'd be critical in covering it's early outbreak up in China and keeping travel to and from China open.

https://orfonline.org/expert-speak/covid19-china-colonizing-public-health-with-whos-help-63913/

And honestly I'm not ready for how schizo I will become if I reject it being a coincidence so I'm going to keep believing it was a coincidence.

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Eh, China has been dumping money into influencing the UN and other international organizations for a decade, now. This was just one of their investments paying off IMO.

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Actually nanomachines harden in response to physical trauma.

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My peepee hardens in response to physical trauma.

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Just like the good ole days after 9/11

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https://nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z

This is an r-slured post. It’s fun to own the rightoids, but at least be right.

Idk what kind of education you have, but it certainly isn’t any sort of life science.

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Idk what kind of education you have, but it certainly isn’t any sort of life science.

No shit, but it isn't so hard to provide some evidence as you did. I had no idea it was regarded as "highly effective against many microorganisms including some viruses". If someone had given this to me before, I wouldn't have written a rantpost.

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frickin bot killed my last post.

Most people don’t understand shit about drugs. Some r-slur rightoid couldn’t understand any proof he links and most libs guzzle authority peepee so hard they didn’t bother using google. As a sciencel, first thing I did upon hearing it was google scholar was “iv*rmectin+covid19”.

The issue is the r-slurs are eating the concentrated paste meant for horses.

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The issue is the r-slurs are eating the concentrated paste meant for horses.

and even that has been blown wildly out of proportion. the vast majority of Americans who take [the molecule that must not be named] against covid got it prescribed from a doctor -- 300k doses, vs at best 10k doses from the horse store. and then you see news articles about how the number of calls to poison control increased by 400%, and when you check the numbers it's 10 calls instead of 2 calls last year.

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I feel like with the media going on about horse paste they're actually trying to get more people to eat horse paste

Same with the whole "trump wants you to drink bleach" thing

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10k doses from the horse store.

:marseylaugh: :marseylaugh: :marseylaugh: :marseylaugh: :marseylaugh: :marseylaugh:

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Those people, there aren't many of them, but they're actually pretty badass IMHO. Usually people who own horses.

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and then you see news articles about how the number of calls to poison control increased by 400%, and when you check the numbers it's 10 calls instead of 2 calls last year.

wow, is this true?

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As a sciencel, first thing I did upon hearing it was google scholar was “iv*rmectin+covid19”

I'll be perfectly honest, when I heard of rightoids clinging to Iv*rmectin, I just automatically assumed it was a similar situation to the whole "fluoride in the water mind-control" shit. That's completely on me and I didn't do my due diligence. I'm getting lazier as I grow older. This is the kind of complacency I try to avoid. Maybe I should lay off the internet shitposting.

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Having a basic idea of what you're talking about is the path to top notch shit posting. It's much easier to lie and manipulate when you know what the score is.

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Normally I do try to have a basic idea but last night I was drunkposting and stuck my neck out way too far. I haven't actually been paying much attention to any COVID stuff since December since the whole thing has been such an absolute shitshow.

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it has been extensively tested and doesn’t work. it showed antiviral potential for other viruses in the past but not this.

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It’s fun to own the rightoids, but at least be right.

Based Leftoid dramatard.

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While you are correct that Iv**mectin was engineered it is a close analogue to a compound found in nature - as many effective medications are.

The idea that some random molecule can miraculously destroy a virus is pants-on-head stupid

It has demonstrated antiviral properties in other viruses.

Iv**mectin treatment was shown to increase survival in mice infected with the pseudorabies virus (PRV) [2] and reduced titers of porcine circovirus 2 (PCV2) in the tissues and sera of infected piglets [3]. In addition, Xu et al. reported the antiviral efficacy of Iv**mectin in dengue virus-infected Aedes albopictus mosquitoes [4]. Iv**mectin was also identified as a promising agent against the alphaviruses chikungunya, Semliki Forest and Sindbis virus, as well as yellow fever, a flavivirus [5]. Moreover, a new study indicated that iv**mectin presents strong antiviral activity against the West Nile virus, also a flavivirus, at low (μM) concentrations [6]. This drug has further been demonstrated to exert antiviral activity against Zika virus (ZIKV) in in vitro screening assays [7], but failed to offer protection in ZIKV-infected mice [8].

I have no idea if it is actually effective against covid but it certainly plausible that it is.

[2] https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30266338

[3] https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30658073

[4] https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30452439

[5] https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26752081

[6] https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32135219

[7] https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27476412

[8] https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31097261

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You're late to the party. I already ate shit due to my comment.

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it is not that plausible it works on covid tbh as so many studies that are good have found no effwc

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lvermectin disrupts binding of the viral spike protein, main protease, replicase, and human TMPRSS2 receptors... in high doses, in vitro.

The idea that some random molecule can miraculously destroy a virus is pants-on-head stupid

Pfizer, Merck, and a bunch of other companies are currently developing random molecules to miraculously destroy a virus.

Merck just asked the FDA for approval for a mutagenic ribonucleoside (which basically gives the ChinAIDS gigacancer).

Pfizer is currently repurposing an AIDS drug in combination with a novel drug which is similar to the ones used on hepatitis and AIDS, also a protease inhibitor.

https://acsh.org/news/2021/09/29/pfizers-covid-pill-ought-work-heres-why-and-some-good-news-about-mercks-molnupiravir-15835

The odds of some random anti-parasite drug being able to combat a coronavirus are fricking insane

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7880840/

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Pfizer, Merck, and a bunch of other companies are currently developing random molecules to miraculously destroy a virus.

Those wouldn't be random. When I said random, I meant that a pre-existing anti-parasite drug would happen to also work against a new virus. Clearly I was wrong.

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IIRC researchers proposed a mechanism of action which could give it antiviral properties, years ago before the coof. They didn't find convincing evidence of it actually working IRL but the effect is supposedly possible.

Note that remdesivir is the main drug approved for coof and as far as anyone can tell it does basically jack shit. So it may be that there are many marginally effective treatments but few broadly effective ones. It's possible that some of the meme drugs might do something in some people, but there's no magic bullet. If you took away the sus looking censorship I doubt anyone would be obsessing over this stuff or taking livestock drugs from Sneed's.

Basically :marseyshrug:

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Thank you for the reasonable response.

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Apparently iverhorsie binds the same part of the virus that would attach to your ace2 receptors. I'm not saying this is true but it's the mechanism I've heard described.

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oops wrong comment

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Posts like this is why I do Heroine.

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it doesn’t tho

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Yeah I am not convinced either.

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antiviral properties have been known for many years before covid, see e.g. this from 2012.

when the pandemic hit, the first thing medical scientists did was test hundreds of existing (approved, safe, cheap) drugs (who had a slight possibility of having an effect) against covid. do you understand why?

these guys in Iran didn't test [the molecule that can't be named] because they're dumb trump supporters, or because they're too dumb to know the difference between viruses and parasites, they tested it because [the molecule that can't be named] was already known (long before 2020) to inhibit replication of a dozen other viruses.

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Wasn't the whole thing that it has anti-viral effects but only in a dose that would kill a human?

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yup. the concentration necessary for the effect observed in the first in vitro experiment is like 100 times too high to be feasible in humans.

the thing is: since the first result (last summer) doctors and hospitals around the world have been giving [the molecule that must not be named] to their patients. even some hospitals in the US. not because they're sure it works, but because serious adverse effects are absurdly rare, so the 10% chance that it does work outweighs the risks easily. and all around the world they say it seems to work. that's not scientific, obviously. it's easy (for doctors and anyone else) to fool themselves.

On the other hand, RCTs typically run on a weekly schedule -- the participants' time from diagnosis to getting the first dose of [the molecule that may not be named] is on average 4 days. And every doctor who actually uses [the molecule that may not be named] in practice says it has to be taken as early as possible to e effective.

also: large randomized controlled trials are expensive ($10M for a regular one, $30M for one that recruits and treats participants within a day of diagnosis instead of a week), and there is no profit to be made with a generic drug.

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This is a really long way of saying you don't frick.

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I honestly haven't even bothered keeping up with the minutia. That's how dumb it all is. Unless a True Believer can provide a remotely convincing case, I'm going to continue regarding it as bullshit.

I've yet to see any explanation for why this would work.

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Yeap, now whenever i look at a woman in armour or even in stylized clothes, i look first at their feet to check for heels, their chest to see if there is boobplate or something more substiantial than a few strings of cloth that wont come off if the character stands still and than their waist, again to see of there are any pointy bits that will stab them if they so much twist their bodies.


Snapshots:

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i look first at their feet to check for heels

Medieval knights actually had heels for their stirrups.

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That title just sets you up for disappointment. :marseycry:

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Listening now;

knows all the nuances and deep data if it supports the narrative

needs to look into it and look at the data if it goes against the narrative

What is the point of having a propagandist on, we already knew what he was gonna say.

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