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:!marseylaugh: Journo mad at Facebook users for reacting to drowned migrants with πŸ˜†, doxxes them :marseyjourno::marseyinvisible::marseymini:

https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/r6ankv/the_facebook_users_who_reacted_with_laughing/?sort=controversial

:marseyhmm: Will we see negative reactions removed from Facebook soon? :marseyhmmm:

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The Facebook users who reacted with laughing emojis to news of 27 asylum seekers drowning in the Channel

On a chilly November afternoon Baran's fiancΓ© waited with cautious excitement.

Within hours the couple would be reunited, bringing to an end a desperate journey which began more than 3,000 miles away in the Kurdish town of Soran, northern Iraq, and marking the start of a new life in Britain.

Baran, whose full name was Maryam Nuri, dreamed of starting a salon in Portsmouth where partner Karzan Assad works as a barber.

As the 24-year-old and around 30 others were crammed into a flimsy dinghy on the French coast Karzan began intently following her progress on Snapchat's maps feature.

But four hours later she phoned to say the boat was taking on water and they were waiting to be rescued. It would be the couple's last conversation.

Some 70 miles away in Chatham, England, Steve was scrolling through Facebook.

News was breaking of a tragedy which many had been dreading for some time.

Six miles off the coast of Calais a crumpled inflatable was sinking to the sea bed. Baran's lifeless body was one of 27 floating in the icy water.

A KentOnline article about the shipwreck popped up on Steve's timeline. He laughed.

But Steve, who calls me a "jumped up little ****" and tells me to "jog on" when I question him, wasn't alone.

He was one of 96 who chose to react to the news with a laughing emoji, one of several ways Facebook allows users to engage with posts.

While publishers can switch the comments off after an article is published they have no control over the emojis that appear above them.

Steve's not the only one who tells me to "jog on", Chantal does too but only after informing me she laughed "because our country looks after illegals before our own people!!!"

Ashford mechanic Ronni Pickering – who presumably has chosen a fake name inspired by the red-faced viral internet star – engages for longer.

His willingness to talk about his views on migration was somewhat overshadowed by the bile he spouted.

"No problem... it's a total joke mate," he begins, adding: "Thousands of murders (sic) male feminists terrorists coming into our country daily. The government are traitors!!"

But when I confess I am struggling to see how the deaths of 27 people are remotely funny things begin to sour.

"It's great news (they drowned)! You support the ***** probably. **** of (sic). I hope every boat ******* sinks."

I question what's got him to this point.

Those coming are "male feminists murders (sic) nonces terrorists and they are robbing our country left right and centre cos they come from **** all and got no morals. Don’t like them never will there (sic) scum," he says.

It's an appalling explosion of hate and not backed up by any statistics whatsoever.

I ask him to show me any evidence for his claims. He can't but still tells me to "go away and do my homework".

So I do. For all his talk of murderers and male feminists I found not a single news report linking a serious offence to someone who had used the route and very few about any asylum seekers committing offences.

More than 200,000 refugees live in the UK compared to the 3.1 million living in Turkey, which has the most in the world.

Last year, the UK received 36,000 asylum applications, the fifth highest number in Europe. Germany had 122,015 applicants and France 93,475. The UK's intake was 17th in Europe per head of population.

These numbers don't match a vision of a country "under attack" from "invaders" or even economic migrants.

And nor do the numbers – well over 70% of people risking their lives in the Channel are granted asylum, meaning their claims are genuine.

Chatham dad Steve tells me: "The should stay at home and stop ******* coming over here. Or do it through the right procedures the scum bags."

I ask him if the fact 27 people, including women and children, had died had bothered him.

"Not at all mate not my family and not my children," he says, adding another laughing emoji for good measure.

"So would you laugh at anyone dying who you weren't related to?" I ask.

Steve is not happy about this question.

"Nope just them *****," he says.

"They are supposed to seek refuge in the first country they get to not travel through them to come to ours. Because of all the ***** my daughter can't get doctors appointments because there is too many of them here now causing a strain on our NHS. There is veteran's on the streets when there being put up in hotels (sic)."

He tells me to "sort myself out".

But Steve is wrong, asylum seekers do not have to seek refuge in the first country they arrive in.

It's a common misconception fed by political rhetoric about passing through "safe countries" but there is no rule requiring asylum seekers to do this.

Somewhat ironically, given how many of the people I message have been vocal supporters of Brexit in the past, Britain did have more tools at its disposal when it was a member of the EU.

The Dublin Regulations required asylum seekers to register a claim in the first EU country they reached and for the decision of that country to be final.

As for his point about using the right processes, it's the most reasonable thing he says, but the fact of the matter is they barely exist.

As Baron Kerr told the House of Lords last week schemes like the Syrian and Dubs are no longer in place.

Some 3,187 Iranians came in the past 18 months, the largest single group, yet only one got in through the official route.

Kurds, like Baran and many of those who drowned, are among the largest groups to make the crossing. They are also the largest ethnic group without a state on the planet and have fled persecution for decades, often settling in Europe.

Unfortunately, it's too late to tell Steve that because he's told me to jog on again.

'Ronni Pickering' has also blocked me by this point. It's a common theme. Everyone I message who at first was willing to engage would only do so on their terms.

I asked for facts to back up their claims and was met with abuse, silence or more misinformation.

I presented facts and was told they were wrong or simply to "**** off".

One man tells me all they do is "take jobs" and says "most of them that come here are in jail for murder or r*pe."

When I tell him asylum seekers can't work and ask for more information on his paradoxical second claim he ignores me before eventually saying "**** 'em."

Debating the topic of immigration, and in particular the current system, is hugely important but any hope a reasoned conversation could be had with people who found drowned children funny was in hindsight misguided.

Even if their arguments were sound no amount of evidence is going to justify laughing at an atrocity.

But there is hope among the hatred. For the 96 who clicked the laughing emoji more than 400 responded with outrage.

Comments previously used to be immediately closed on articles such as last week's but now they're left open for people to challenge each other's views, something which happens more often than not and outweighs the blind bigotry.

Reasoning with these people was never going to work, maybe one day education will win but until then perhaps the best approach, to redirect one man's insult, is "**** 'em".

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/27-people-drowned-and-i-laughed-258352/

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And nor do the numbers – well over 70% of people risking their lives in the Channel are granted asylum, meaning their claims are genuine.

              

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Some 3,187 Iranians came in the past 18 months, the largest single group, yet only one got in through the official route.

      

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Iran isn't in a war last I checked. So how are their claims genuine?

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Iran is a Islamic theocracy that hunts down minorities and political dissidents with shariah police that will literally cut off your peepee (valid) is you are caught chasing bussy.

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There’s nothing wrong with that, islamaphobe

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I think religious minorities are usually the ones at risk, ethnic minorities are usually fine apart from maybe racism.

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Iran is a shithole run by a dangerous terrorist regime. Iranian Jews and Christians have mostly fled to safer waters. The regime claims that it offers protection for religious minorities and is a democracy, bug that’s a lie. It’s a theocracy run by the supreme leader, who is a pig-dog bastard.

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Didn't Iran make a law that homosexuality was allowed but only if the bottom got their genitals cut off?

That's some radical centrist homocracy shit like no other.

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I guarantee the upper echelon of the Iranian theocracy fricks boys.

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They’ve had that law and accompanying fatwa allowing it for several decades. They’re one of the biggest trans surgery capitals of the world.

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I mean surely the jews would just go to Israel, it's closer and they have actual rights to citizenship there.


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Israel welcoming ethnic arabs from Iran?

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What are mizrahim

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I'm sure they'll roll out the red carpet, just as soon as you all get the mandatory vaccinations that absolutely are NOT birth control shots

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They’re Jews not Arabs r-slur.

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Then people need to take back their country instead of running away

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Middle Eastern countries that are rules by authoritarian regimes at least keep the lid on things. The "Democracies" allow ISIS and the Taliban to spring up.

Say what you will about Saddam and the Ayatollahs, but they never hosted any terrorists who launched attacks on the west.

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Did you really forget the kingdom of Saudi Arabia

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Monarchies are inherently smelly and generally bad. If W had dropped a nuke in Riyadh the day after 9/11 he would be considered the greatest president in history

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They're coming from France as well. Why didn't they claim asylum there?

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I'm sure there are worse fates in the world than becoming Fr*nch but I can't really think of any rn

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Well, let’s not take this too far

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because borders are a human rights violation sweaty, except if it's state lines :marseynails::marseynails:

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I think gay people and anyone who's going to be put in a forced marriage would have a good chance of getting asylum.

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How do you even prove you are gay? Do cumoid embassies have cute twinks on standby to prove you aren't a disgusting straggot?

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I'm pretty sure that some former Eastern bloc countries used to have gay tests for those migrants but the EU decided that was heckin problematic so they don't do it anymore

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I would genuinely pay to watch that tbh.


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