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The protest of Aberdeen's Star Wars Shop has been cancelled due to fear of the much larger counter-protest pic.twitter.com/jsiT1UmnYU
— YOUTUBE.COM / VITO (@VitoGesualdi) August 7, 2021
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Antifa super soldiers will only show up to fight fascism if fascism is represented by one decrepit, lonesome old man who says that peepee = man. Any more people and they flee.
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Nonsense. There've been large scale "battles" between Antifa Supa Soldiers and Meal Team Six many times before.
It all depends on the city/state. Are the cops/prosecutors more likely to beat up or change your team or the other team? Will someone get charged if you hit him and he shoots you back as self defense?
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Washington is a mutual combat state so it's really the perfect venue for all those r-slurs to fight to the death.
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I keep lollin at Meal Team Six
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The old man fought in Vietnam. So he could take out about 20 antifa strags.
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I wonder if he had personal experience with chicks and peepees during R&R in Thailand?
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Could he really call himself a Vietnam war veteran if not?
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Itβd be like going to Italy with out trying their wine
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How? Vietnam veterans are probably the biggest losers on the planet.
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cope
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Drafted into a war they had no business fighting and then lose. Vietnam vets are the ultimate cucks.
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The funny thing about Vietnam (besides the general hilariousness) was that the US has basically won in 1968, as Wikipedia (not known for its imperialist sympathies) puts it:
And so instead of finishing the job the US rapidly withdrew all its ground forces, and even then it took the North more than five years to recover and destroy the demoralized South. The US army was victorious on the battlefield but defeated by domestic journ*lists.
Many such cases by the way, even more strikingly a decade before French army completely crushed Algerian separatists only for public discontent stoked by the usual suspects to force the government to go and grant Algeria independence, forcing about a million of French-Algerians to flee for their lives. The pen is in fact mightier that the sword and it's not a good thing at all considering the kind of scum that wields the former.
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The irony of Walter Cronkite being repeatedly called the golden standard of reporting is that he just outright lied about the Tet Offensive and is almost single handily responsible for the change in public opinion of the war. The US could have easily won but public support soured so quickly that the government decided βfrick itβ and just left the south to be slaughtered.
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"Journos were always like this" is the biggest blackpill. At this point I'm like 80% sure Nixon did nothing wrong
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It really is. No one working for a large news corporation gives a shit about honest reporting or doing anything other than making themselves a hero and the center of their story, and everyone working for an independent company just wants to make it large enough that they can sell it to a corporation. Journ*lists shouldnβt even be identifiable.
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Look at the shit they used to say in journals to sway public opinion like 100-150 years ago, especially during elections. Journos have always been IRL agendaposters, and always will be.
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>golden standard of reporting
>outright lied
If it's intentional, is it ironic?
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South Vietnam was a corrupt shithole and there was no way the US was ever going to invade North Vietnam, meaning that all Hanoi had to do was continue applying insurgent pressure and let the Soviets and Chinese flood the country with materiel.
It doesn't matter that Tet had exhausted the VC without accomplishing their overarching strategic objectives. The North just needed to play the long game until the South Vietnamese government collapsed in on itself. It is impossible to beat an insurgency while it is being actively aided supplied by an outside power.
The US lost because the South Vietnam government was a horribly corrupt basket case while the US could never actually eliminate the outside power(s) funding the VC. Sound familiar?
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No, it doesn't sound familiar, because in Afghanistan or Iraq or whatever the insurgent pressure means that the US and its puppet regime sort of controls all major cities, but now and then insurgents emerge from the mountains or desert or jungle or favelas and blow shit up.
The Vietnam situation was fundamentally different, because North Vietnam remained an uninvaded country, fully in control of all its territory, cities, and production centers, and frantically rebuilding its army that its deranged commie leaders just almost completely wasted (two more times after the Tet offensive) because their ideology didn't allow for the possibility that South Vietnam proles would not rise up. The fact that they resorted to guerilla tactics shows that they had no army left!
And you don't get to say that oh well, guerilla tactics are hard to fight against, if you still had that whole country up north that you're at war with and that has no army and that you can just roll into with your tanks and air support and take over. You're not losing against insurgents in your country, you're not even trying to win the war with the country that attacks you that way! Is it possible that after soundly defeating North Vietnam, South Vietnam would still struggle against insurgents? I don't know, did the North struggle against insurgents after taking over the South? Seemingly not, so maybe it was worth a try in the other direction?
Yes, that's the problem. North Vietnam had no problems whatsoever with invading South Vietnam, but the other important event of the 1968 (besides South Vietnam utterly thrashing invading Northern forces until they had no real army) was the US presidential election and the surrounding fake news bullshit, so yes, instead ending the war by Christmas the US snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by deciding that no, helping the South Vietnam reunite the country is kicking the underdog and so they stalled and hoped for a two-state solution of sorts apparently and then abandoned South Vietnam entirely. All this distributedly orchestrated by commie-sympathizing journ*lists.
Why exactly do you think that there was no way the US was ever going to invade North Vietnam, but the opposite happened as a matter of course? I'm honestly interested in your rationalizations, as an amateur anthropologist.
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Yes, media coverage was ultimately what turned the American public against the war in 1968.
The outside power supporting the Taliban was the Pakistan ISI. They literally sheltered OBL, lol. They let Taliban leadership hop back and forth across the border to coordinate Taliban insurgents in the Kandahar region. They supplies intelligence and materiel to the Taliban. And the US couldn't do frickall about it because we ruined our chance of basing operations out of Uzbekistan and had to resort to Pakistan. The US-Pakistan history during this time period is both fascinating and frustrating.
Avoiding a repeat of Korea. The PRC made it very clear that attempts to invade North Vietnam would be met with the same resistance as in Korea, and they did not frick around back then. They were incredibly paranoid allowing any rival power any more military buildup along their borders. The PRC did not like North Vietnam, but they overwhelmingly preferred a Vietnamese regime friendly to the USSR rather than the US.
Of course, as the Sino-Soviet split deepened after US withdrawal the PRC changed course and eventually invaded Vietnam itself b/c of the latter's relationship with the USSR. Breschnev Doctrine and the crushing of the Prague Spring convinced the PRC leadership that the USSR had imperial ambitions. This is around the time the PRC started viewing the USSR as a larger threat to China than the US, which would culminate years later with the development of US-China relations.
Also keep in mind that there were Soviet "advisors" in North Vietnam and that the PRC had nuclear weapons by this point. The stakes of invading North Vietnam would have been huge.
This is a huge topic that spans one of the most complex web of interstate relationships of the Cold War.
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But the US had thermonuclear weapons by this point, and yet nobody blinked an eye when the North just went and rolled through the South with no fear whatsoever, and no annoying guerillas afterwards by the way.
Look, look at it, the things you accept as givens unquestioningly are actually very weird. They are very asymmetric for some unexplained reason!
And if you doubt the narrative for just a second, trying to accommodate the givens, it can rearrange into a much more sensible explanation wherein the Vietnam War was about the State Department fighting against the US Army and winning decisively. The Army's loss took half a decade to materialize out there in the lands of the heathens of course but it was entirely inevitable.
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The loss of South Vietnam was not an existential issue for the US. The loss of North Vietnam was an existential issue for the PRC for the same reason that the loss of North Korea would have been.
Im an r-slur but Marxist-Leninist organizations historically excel at political purges. Furthermore, North Vietnam had set up and operated an insurgency in South Vietnam for two decades. The South had nothing of the sort prepared, which means that the VC paramilitary had free reign to identify and execute political dissidents and collaborators in the South when the NVA rolled over the border. Heck, they had already identified most of these people years prior. It was just a matter of compiling the lists and scratching off names.
Accept as givens? The Vietnam war took place half a century ago. We have a ton of facts now with which to observe the Vietnam War. I'm just providing you with the overwhelming historical consensus.
There's a reason they call it assymmetric warfare.
A much more sensible explanation that entirely excludes the actual country of Vietnam in its reasoning? Lol. Taking such an obscenely Amerocentric, reductionist view doesn't strike me as sensible at all.
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That's true about South Vietnam losing the country after the US pulled out. But the US bombing the absolute shit out of the North in the 70's during OP Rolling Thunder pretty much forced the North into signing the Paris Peace Accords. Every piece of infrastructure the north had was bombed into the stone age.
In the end nothing really mattered because communist Vietnam became the new corrupt RVN and now there are McDonalds and KFC all over the country.
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I believe you're thinking of OP Linebacker 1 and 2. Anyway, the US also lost a shitton of aircraft. This was before Top Gun when naval aviation and the USAF got its shit together. South Vietnam and the US also expended an extraordinary amount of resources on these two operations. I doubt this was sustainable because the clear goal was to force North Vietnam to the negotiating table.
My overall point, however, is that the North Vietnamese had all the time on their side because the US would never actually invade North Vietnam.
On a final note, air ordinance at the time was nowhere near as lethal as modern air ordnance. The bombings were clumsy in comparison.
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Yeah, that's why Great Leaders sack the parliament, setup their own Junta, and nationalize mass media. Makes things much easier.
Journos are to blame, but the US Congress did cut off funding to their puppet state during '73 or '74. They could've used riders to keep it going. The DoD also could've shuffled funds to keep that regime afloat for longer, but the ARVN were kinda useless.
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The fricking dumbasrats liebrals let this mess go on. Fricking scumbags!!!!
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Demonrats! π€
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They're good at committing war crimes. All he needs is some heroin or weed (the shit they smoked in Nam) and non stop playing of Fortunate Son and he's ready to go.
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"We can't safely bully an old man because we picked a day when most people have off from work. The next bully and vandalize event will be a mid afternoon weekday. Our bad."
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As long as this fact doesn't stop the rightoids from seething about a few r-slurs in ski masks, I'm okay with them being kitties.
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