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neofoids are discussing whether cisbians are entitled to their own spaces, the results wont surprise you.

https://old.reddit.com/r/honesttransgender/comments/x484ck/its_ok_for_cis_lesbians_to_want_afab_only_lesbian?sort=controversial

archive: https://archive.ph/2022.09.02-221147/https://www.reddit.com/r/honesttransgender/comments/x484ck/its_ok_for_cis_lesbians_to_want_afab_only_lesbian/

No its not. Cis lesbians are the oppressors and there is no reason for them to have their own space. Its like arguing for white people to have their own space, or for straight people to have their own space. There is no reason for it. Yes cis lesbians and cis women are opressed but not by trans people and so no reason to exclude trans lesbians

In what ways do cis lesbians "oppress" transbians (sic) by barring them from areas where same-s*x attracted females congregate? Making our own spaces and barring :marseytrain2:s from having s*x with women, how oppressive! The "oppression" of lesbians who do not wish to strip and sleep with these filthy males is the "cotton ceiling" that transgender people are fighting to transcend.

Being a trans woman is a material fact that requires the precondition of being born or assigned male at birth. ONLY those assigned male at birth can be in the category of trans women.

Maybe we should use this material fact that distinguishes trans women from actual women to define s*x.... It makes little sense that being a woman is a "identity" while being a TIM is a "material conidtion." They claim that a woman cannot identify as a trans woman, yet this seems to be a claim made arbitrarily. If TIMS don't have an identity because they are born male, then women also don't have an identity because they are born female.

The paradox is caused by their constant need for confirmation as usual. They want to identify as women, but they also want the oppression that comes with being a "trans woman." Therefore, being a woman must be a free for all, but being a trans woman is not. However, "cis women" are not permitted to exclude "trans women".

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lol most of them are surprisingly reasonable

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>I feel that a lot of steam would be taken out of the TERF :marseyrowling: world :marseykamikaze: if they were allowed to have AFAB spaces

I think this is the crux of the issue, but sadly for the trans :marseychimera: woman :marseyeggless: who wrote it it's also the heretical position in trans :marseychimera: spaces

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I like that women :marseyextinction: are having their spaces taken over. Watching :marseyschizoexcited: the slippery slope (that doesn't exist) keep :marseykys: slipping and watching :marseyilluminati: lgbts reap what :marseypregunta: they sowed is amazing.

I really can't wait :marseywait: for all ncaa scholarships to go to amab.

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The age of the womban is over. The sooner you realize that, the better

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/r/honesttransgender is only loosely moderated and less echo-chambery, which makes all the other :marseytrain2: :marseyvargfinnselfdefense: subreddits extremely angry.

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Not for long :marseyfedpost:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/wx80ea/rhonesttransgender_is_a_meeting_place_for/ilq8kwg?sort=controversial

The wrongthink :marseywrongthonk: was detected and jannie :marseybongojanny: mops are being deployed

:#marseyjanny:

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:#marseybardfinn:

SUCK THE GIRLPEEPEE

:#!marseybardfinn:

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How did he know?

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NO!

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:#!marseypunching:

PUNCH A TERF :marseyterfdomesticabuse: SAVE A TRANS :marseyfemboy: LIFE

:#marseypunching:

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Normalize chromosome testing before s*x!!1!!1

:marseyeyeroll: Least delusional train :marseythomas:

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Unironically yes please :marseyinshallah:

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Cis lesbians are the oppressors

those lesbians never :marseyitsover: stood a chance once these neurodivergent :marseyneko: white :marseydoctor: males set their aim at them

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>daintydaisy

:#marseyxdoubt:

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Ogre :marseytroll2: hands :marseyshrug: typed that username.

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Daisy is a name :marseypinkname: for porn :marseycoomer: stars :marseyastronaut: and dogs.

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I think if you're not passing you shouldn't go into women's spaces. It's just :marseyblops2chadcel2: rude :marseyfuckoffcarp: and knowingly making other women :marseyblops2chadcel2: uncomfortable.

No trans :marseysaruh: woman :marseydomesticabuse: passes. There's a reason they historically paired up with gay guys. You are just :marseyblops2chadcel: ultratwinks.

I’m a black :marseyblm: trans :marseybrianna: woman :marseychonkerfoid: and I would estimate over :marseygiveup: 90% of black :marseybattered: trans :marseybrianna: women :marseysuffragette: are straight. Never :marseyitsover: really thought about how this “transbian” identity are mostly moderately late :marseyslowpoke: transitioners who quite frankly do not pass…like at all.

Black HSTS-chad vs White :marseypepsi: AGP virgin. Too bad Blanchard was debooonked.

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Lol yeah :marseyagree: surprisingly decent take, a black :marseyblops2cel: trans :marseyfemboy: woman :marseysuffragette: from the ghetto and a ladyboy from Thailand are radically different from an neurodivergent :marseyautismchonker: weeaboo :marseymiku: white :marseyblops2chadcel: moid :marseymalding: into WH40k and wargaming who wants to become an anime :marseycatgirl4: child.

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'Gynephillic'

:marseybeanquestion::marseythonk::marseyhmmm::marseyconfused::marseyhmm:

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Attracted to gussy :marseyblops2chadcel:

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🤮

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Get with the times. Lesbians liking gussy :marseypussyhat: just :marseyblops2chadcel2: have a fetish, completely unlike valid :marseysaruh: :marseyfemboy:

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Where's the auto?

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Gynephilic just means attracted to women.

Heterosexual men are gynephilic. Heterosexual transsexuals are autogynephilic.

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Forcing inclusivity in spaces that are naturally exclusive is not going :marseysal2: to make :marseyyarn: them believe you are a woman.

This is exactly what :marseygasp: women :marseygoodnight: do though.

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r*pey :marseydisconcerting: :marseytrain2:s and forcing their barbie wands into female :marseypenny: spaces, name :marseypinkname: a more iconic :marseyblops2chadcel: duo

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Maybe we should use this material fact that distinguishes trans :marseytransflag: women :marseyextinction: from actual women :marseysuffragette: to define s*x.... It makes little :marseyelliotrodger3: sense that being a woman :marseychonkerfoid: is a "identity" while being a TIM is a "material conidtion." They claim that a woman :marseychonkerfoid: cannot identify as a trans :marseytransflag: woman, yet this seems to be a claim made arbitrarily.

You have a poor :marseybeggar: grasp of Critical Theory. Transwomen, like other vulnerable groups, are defined by a transgression committed against them. To be trans, you have to have been misgendered at birth. If you were AFAB and identify as a woman, there's no transgression. In the same way, being born :marseyvietnam: a certain race is not grounds for claiming racism :marseycapyblackface: - being born :marseyvietnam: black :marseyvargselfdefense: is only made racially relevant because whites actively chose to oppress them. CRT and the broader progressivism pose that nothing in the universe inherently "is", only the "becoming" of things is important.

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Any kind of exclusion is only allowed if the excluders are oppressors

Kind of wish this were true so we could ban Turks from all MENA and Balkan related subreddits

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8 words :marseylongpostglow: in to their post :marseyimmortanjoe: and they have to say ACTIVELY

ACTIVELY

ACTIVELY

ACTIVELY

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Trans :marseytransflag: women :marseyblops2chadcel: are real women. Their addition to womenkind has only improved women. Now women :marseygoodnight: can code, women :marseyblops2chadcel2: can play sports :marseysoccer: even better, women :marseygoodnight: can be funny. Every single :marseywall: thing after the inclusion of trans :marseytransgenocide: women :marseyblops2chadcel: has been a positive :marseyfingergoodjob: for women :marseyblops2chadcel: yet they are all bitter cat ladies at heart :marseylove: who despise progress. Their bigotry drowns them.

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Without transwomen, female :marseywall: gender will :marseyclueless: not survive.

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Fricking :marseytom: heck :marseydaemon: look :marseyinvestigate: at the average word :marseyclippy: count these turbo autists put out

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MarseyBrother 12 points 8 hours ago

because I'll tell you why, every time such a space is created, someone will come in and say "uWu I am a transbian, can i be part of your group?" and they kindly say no. Then the uWu transbian accuses the space of transphobia, news travels fast and wide, everyone starts piling on them calling them tranphobes and terfs thus creating a feedback loop of hate and resentment

Which fricking one of you BIPOC is this.

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Legacy foids :marseyblops2chadcel2: keep :marseyropeyourself2: losing.

Being a wageslave :mcmarsey: is now liberation. Jiggling your tits :marseybooba: for men is now feminism. Sucking peepee :marseyblackcock: is now lesbianism.

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Hey! Not all of us "legacy foids" are losing! Some of us are doing just :marseyblops2chadcel: fine, thank you very much. And for your information, being a wageslave :mcmarsey: is not liberation, it's just :marseyblops2chadcel: being a wage slave. Jiggling your tits :marseybreastcancer: for men is not feminism, it's just :marseyblops2chadcel: prostitution. Sucking peepee :marseychadthundercock: is not lesbianism, it's just :marseyblops2chadcel: oral s*x. So before you go around making sweeping generalizations about us "legacy foids," maybe you should take :marseyfry: a closer look :marseycheckem: at the realities of our lives.

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SPEAK QUEEN :marseycard:

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I'm sorry, what :marseywtf2: was that? I couldn't hear you over :marseygiveup: the sound of my crown.

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How does this logic :marseyshapiro: work? Someone is allowed into a space :marseystars2: for a group :marseymarseyloveorgy: they don’t belong in if said group :marseymarseyloveorgy: somehow “oppresses” them? Would a sexist :marseyhandmaid: straight black :marseykwanza: guy be allowed into a community for lesbian :marseyterfdomesticabuse: white :marseyblops2chadcel: women? There :marseycheerup: has to be some kind of oppression points system :marseymars: for this

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How are you being transphobic right :marseysoren: now?

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I'm the transwoman who made the original post. I held my ground that transwomen should stop inserting themselves into lesbian spaces because they aren't lesbians (I could hardly say so so bluntly without fear of retribution). I managed to get myself banned for it. My new Reddit is /u/bloomcoredoll if anyone wants to see my controversial content.

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You're a dramanaut? Welcome to the site, sister. Enjoy your existence here! maybe you should post :marseyimmortanjoe: about your thread, you probably wont be jannied this time.

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I just joined I'd honestly never heard of this site before. Definitely good to have a place where I can express my opinions without getting b&

One person in that thread was rly going at me for being attracted to men and transwomen but not to bio females. On god they just hate homosexual people.

I also run a spectacularly hated Tumblr blog, dakotadawn.tumblr.com, as well as a Groomercord server for LGBT people where we can have controversial/politically incorrect opinions. If that's something anyone would be interested in, feel free to ask!

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I’m actually a straight trans woman so I guess I can answer this…but aside from the fact that “straight spaces” aren’t comparable to either afab lesbian or transbian spaces, if hypothetically there was a straight bar for straight people, and they only allowed afab women…then I would move on with my life. I just cannot fathom actually being outraged that men who didn’t want to date me to begin with chose to go to a space specifically for cis men seeking cis women.

95% of the content on rdrama and kiwifarms would disappear if trains were typically this reasonable.

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I lost my Reddit account over this shit. I had so much karma, too.

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didnt :marseyfingerwords: self-flagellate enough like the lesbians on /r/actuallesbians

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So true!

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