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Honesttransgender: won't somebody think of the...TERFS? (part 1)

https://old.reddit.com/r/honesttransgender/comments/x527ux/its_weird_how_terfs_are_framed_as_the_primary?sort=controversial

In a rare display of siding with the oppressor, OP brings up how terfs are accused even when a train dies violently by a moid's hands.

From reddit, to other social media platforms, to LGBT and feminist organizations, it’s incredibly strange to me the way that terfs are made out to be the biggest threat to trans people, and especially to trans women. This isn’t me being dismissive and denying the existence of transphobic women, but at times it really comes off misogynistic the way terfs are blamed for all, or so many of our issues when the majority of the people in power that create transphobic legislation are cis men.

I’ve seen terfs get brought up and blamed when news breaks about a trans woman being murdered despite the fact that odds are the killer was a man. So many trans women I know have been the victims of violence at the hands of male partners, but it almost seems like mainstream activism hardly pays attention to the intimate partner violence epidemic that trans women are facing. It’s just all about terfs invalidating us and somehow this is more rage inducing for many people…

One thing I’ve noticed though, every transphobic woman gets labeled a terf even if they have no affiliation with (radical) feminism. Terf is being used as a placeholder for transphobe, and even conservative cis men have the label applied to them, so every harmful thing they do is somehow the doing of…terfs.

The terf hysteria just seems so far removed from reality a lot of the time

Not everybody is happy with this take.

:marseyderp:

Least hysterical transman replies:

TERFs scare the living fricking shits of daylights out of me because they're eloquent and insidious.

An ignorant transphobe can scream about me all they want, but I'm confident a fair number of those would actually see the light if they took the time to get to know me, to my face.

A TERF denies the existence of my male soul and will slowly strangle him to a painful and horrific death, with the mask of progressivism pulling others in with her, and eventually against me and those like me.

There's a bible-banging utopia where I'm beaten to death or something nice and obvious and dramatic and quick, and there's a TERF utopia where I'm imprisoned for the rest of my life in a bodily horror where no one believes I'm in pain because there's 'nothing to be trans about '. Quite honestly that second world scares me more.

if this sounds a bit dramatic I drank for the first time in a couple months tonight but also have quite strong feelings about TERFs 🙃 (the ones who don't believe transition is necessary, anyway)

:marseydisintegrate:

Another transman tells OP (transwoman), to shut it:

there’s nothing to misunderstand, you’ve made your point very clear. my argument is that it’s stupid and the notion that terfs are being targeted for being women and not loud, violent (and in rowlings case) increasingly powerful threats to trans people should have stayed in your head

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Transwoman who agrees with OP:

It's because women are an easier target, and most of us* are cowards.

*humans

:marseyyes:

Transwoman who disagrees with OP:

I don't know why I'm even wasting my time with you. You're a joke of a human being. Trans people hate you, a majority of feminists hate you, leftists hate you, conservatives hate you, Reddit hates you, and the people who make the talking points you make, as a general rule, hate you. That's why you're here, and that's why I'm leaving this godforsaken shithole of a subreddit, because I can't deal with all the fricking projected self-hatred and arguing. You people are batshit.

:marseyoverseether:

Part 1 of Suck Up To A TERF Day on /r/honesttransgender!

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TERFs scare the living fricking shits of daylights out of me because they're eloquent and insidious.

It's easy to look eloquent when the person you're having a debate with is a frothing-at-the-mouth ogre (male)

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"eloquent" just means they say the obvious truth and you can't hit them without some dumb strawman without proving their point

so really what they're saying is they're afraid that women will speak up and shatter the illusion that all of this was somehow done with the consent of every woman on the planet and only transphobic men care about women's spaces

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Challenge is this a :marseytrain: or a ogre?

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There's a bible-banging utopia where I'm beaten to death or something nice and obvious and dramatic and quick, and there's a TERF utopia where I'm imprisoned for the rest of my life in a bodily horror where no one believes I'm in pain because there's 'nothing to be trans about '. Quite honestly that second world scares me more.

FACT: Being calmly told "no, you are delusional and not valid" is worse that being lined up against a wall and shot on public TV by a religious extremist society

They're just projecting a suicide fantasy :marseydespair: onto Bible thumpers aren't they? With a side of martyrdom "obvious and dramatic".

What about the theocratic society where they are imprisoned and calmly told there is nothing to be trans about? What about the one where they are quietly, unobviosly, undramatically, and slowly disposed of?

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"YeeeeEEEHawww! IM COMING FOR THE TRAINS I WILL TNT THEM IN REAL LIFE"

:#femboy: "Ah yes, this should be nice, dramatic, obvious(?), and over quickly"

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"Alright ma'am, it's time for your lithium! Have you signed up for anything on the helping hands chart? Remember, you have a appointment with your new psychologist tomorrow morning at 10am in the blue room so don't schedule anything then!"

:#ragejak: AHHHHHH oh no oh frick im in the worst possible time line

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i have a meme for u :marseyshy:

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holy shit lol

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TERFs are the least subtle and “insidious” people out there. They love displaying their hatred of men and trains what the heck is that person on about.

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by eloquent and insidious they mean "Use the language of social justice and avoid any obvious slurs or dog whistles so there's nothing I can use to dismiss the argument without addressing it".


The time has come for the Necromaster. The unleashing of the fourth joker's card. The arrival of The Great Milenko

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Yeh it's why they resort to suspiciously masculine responses.

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When all you have is a hammer...


The time has come for the Necromaster. The unleashing of the fourth joker's card. The arrival of The Great Milenko

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"um... hear me out, Johnny Depp maybe not wrong and he's being lied about bc he reminds me of my relationship with a woman like Amber Heard (me and her both adult human female lesbians btw) so I emphasize with him and anyone else abused 😭😭😭"

half the users in the conversation banned

"as a moderator of terf hideout #23, I would like to clarify some things men bad because men patriarchy best friends club world stacked against women MY HEART GOES OUT TO AMBER HEARD AND ALL WOMEN LIKE HER 😭 words words words words words and i will keep this community safe for us"

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The reason why TERFs are hated is simple: They're heretics. As opposed to the random redneck who just hates "chicks with peepees" or whatever, they have processed the woke narratives and chose to reject them. Additionally unlike the backwards redneck, they operate in the same social strategy as the woke. While a NYC bustlecel can probably avoid rednecks in their daily lives, your boss could be a TERF. Your doctor could be a TERF. Even your neighbor could be a TERF. And you may never know until it's too late.

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:#marseyraging::#marseysoypoint:

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Is honesttransgender soon to be the next detrans/askgaybros and targeted by AHS?

loud, violent (and in rowlings case) increasingly powerful threats to trans people

Nearly all of the time trains are the one making threats to TERFs. Rightoids are the ones who make threats to trains.

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Is honesttransgender soon to be the next detrans/askgaybros and targeted by AHS?

According to this post, they’ll be getting mods from the other :marseytrans2:subs soon, so probably not.

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You either die a free speech subreddit or live long enough for the admins to assign powermods

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Men can't be TERFs because men cant be radfems. lol.

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