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I want to become a flat earther

It seems impossible for someone like me to become a flat earther.

As a child, I had a special interest in maps and geography and knew the names of different map projections. I grew up with globes, and sometimes got to look at early versions of google earth on the family computer. One of my hobbies is using SDR radios to receive satellite signals. I've seen satellite imagery my whole life. I know that ships disappear from view and sink under the horizon at a distance of about three miles, explained by curvature of the earth. I know other similar facts. I've seen a lunar and solar eclipse with my own eyes. I've played countless hours of both Kerbal Space Program, and the free planetarium program "Stellarium" in my lifetime.

...the odds are stacked against me becoming a real flat earther, but none of this means I'm going to give up.

The other day, I tried to get started with flat earth material, but I quickly learned what a waste of time that was.

When you look for REAL flat earthers online what you see is... bleak.

  • First of all, you have people with disordered speech (perhaps they have schizophrenia?) who have a fixation on NASA, everything is wrong because the space agency of the United States for reasons, and those reasons is because NASA lies to people because it does. I see tons of really obvious flaws in tons of bullet points these people make.

:marseysmugretard: "if earth moving through space thousands of miles per hour and spin then how come when I poop it doesn't smack the side of bowl with great force"

  • Secondly, you see people who are obviously non-flat earthers pretending to be stupid for the lulz, and playing characters to try and bait the few legit flat earthers who bother hanging out online.

actually that poop bowl guy might have been a troll now that I think about it :marseythonk:

  • Thirdly, you have a massive group of people wanting to dunk on the stupidest people EVER- flat earthers. They just have to prove themselves and their superior intellect on the easiest target. This doesn't bother me or bristle me in any way. I'm not trying to become a flat earther because "I oppose current thing!" at all

This all makes it really hard to find any real flat earthers on the internet, because any easy to find place is completely saturated with NON AUTHENTIC flat earthism. It's like going to a zoo and looking for majestic animals, but the enclosures are full of people in fursuits.

It's obvious to me that if there's anything good to be had, then I am going to have to dig deep, and will likely need to do original research.

Reasons that I have for wanting to become a flat earther:

  • A good friend of mine is a flat earther. I asked why, and he said "I know what they say, but I just know it's true". He's right about weird things a lot and can sense lying so this gave me pause.

I was gonna add more reasons but that reason is good enough and is my initial motivation.

I may follow this post up, I may not.

I don't have enough time to investigate flat earthism right now.

Also, I might not succeed at transitioning to becoming a flat earther. I might get defeated by spherical facts and logic. At least I will have tried.

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you will never be a real flat earther :marseyitsover:

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u mad globetard???? seething and dilating mayb?! :marseytroll:

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Oops squirted out some girl juices again

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:#marseycringe2:

Not like this...

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I haven't even given it a good effort yet :marseycry:

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lol needs the full YWNBARW treatment

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I like being a Canadian denialist.

Canada was invented by Americans after WWII so they can travel Europe without being looked down upon by French waiters and the like.

If you like talking about maps, talk about how it is all spherical projection and everything up there is actually just North Dakota and Alaska, etc.

It's also fun because I've spent a lot of time in Canada. I've been there, I can tell you it doesn't exist.

:#marseysipping:

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This isn't the same thing at all

I'm not trying to merely paint myself with an absurd views for the lulz

I want to become a real flat earther.

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I mean, if you going to pick one. Shouldn't it at least be funny or something?

The best way to argue for a flat earth is to point out how little we actually know. How bad we are at measuring things...

Take an epistemological. It's very difficult to measure the planet... How much can you trust people who say one way or the other?

But I'll be honest.. With flat earth, I could never get past the different constellations in the northern and southern hemispheres. And that's pretty easy to check... It's more of a travel problem.

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But I'll be honest.. With flat earth, I could never get past the different constellations in the northern and southern hemispheres. And that's pretty easy to check... It's more of a travel problem.

I'm completely stuck on this one so far

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The best flat earth arguments (aka the most persuasive lies to convince midwits) are coming from clever trolls.

You can recognize the honest believers by their inability to distinguish complete nonsense ("if earth is round why doesn't the bottom half fall down?") from persuasive lies. Lurk on /pol/, some people there post threads regularly with claims that are hard to disprove.

The "Motte" for flat earth theory is non-standard geometry: if you give up on isotropy, you can formulate a change of coordinates under which earth's surface is flat (except for a a single point where you cut it open. you also have to cut out a line that goes through that point and extends to the edge of the observable universe) and everything else is distorted in such a way that to our lying eyes it appears as if earth was a ball. In the new coordinates all physical laws depend heavily on location and are unnecessarily complicated, light rays are heavily curved etc.

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>Lurk on /pol/, some people there post threads regularly with claims that are hard to disprove

Is that the hyperboria shit? There are people on /pol/ who don't understand World's Fair construction who seem adjacent to that. "NO ONE MAKES STUFF LIKE THIS TODAY THEREFORE CRYPTO-ROME, TARTARA, AND ORPHAN TRAINS"

>if you give up on isotropy, you can formulate a change of coordinates under which earth's surface is flat

Yeah I was thinking of this last night. Especially curved light rays, lol. Everything refracts a certain way-- except when it doesn't!

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I bet some procrastinating physicist has done this for the stereographic projection and posted some of the resulting formulas somewhere.

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Yeah, enough Minetest for you.

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Is that server over too?

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I quit playing minetest regularly when this happened :marseythinkorino:

maybe it's a withdrawal symptom

probably not though

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The earth is locally flat. So you can say that without lying.


:!marseybarrel: :marseybarreldrunk:

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Seethe and globulate

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The Earth isn't flat, it's a cylinder. We have been digging out resources for centuries, I call bullshit that the Earth shape would remain the same after all that resource extraction.

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Flat earth is a psyop to distract from the real truth. Earth is hollow

Think about it. We regularly hear about alien abductions and ayy-lmao spottings have been indicated in all cultures. But if they were travelling interstellary, even our modest instruments should definitely spot them since the laws of physics dictate that is costs so much energy. So they're either behind the moon (debunked conspiracy theory) and inside the earth. Do your own research

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there's no reason it can't be flat and hollow

except for the sun rotation at the poles :marseyitsover:

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You are actually to dump to be flat earthling

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A couple of little things that happened to me since I put sodomy behind me. Dogs stopped barking at me. Friends say it's because I don't smell like blacks any more. But alsoβ€”and I can't fully explain thisβ€”I started to care about spoilers. I once posted HAN SOLO DIES on Twitter and lost 2,500 followers and reveled in it. But I'd be furious now to read that, and wouldn't inflict it on others (Star Wars cringe aside), because my viewing and reading habits are changing. I used to watch and read for color, texture, pattern, theme, atmosphere and didn't care what happened to the people in the story. So I liked Wilde and Rothko and TV sci fi. But now I find myself caring how the plot resolves itself. I want to know how it ends. I enjoy art for more than just the surface textures and historical contexts and political dimensions. Things matter, and what happens to people and to things matters to me.

I think I would say my focus has shifted to the story because I have stopped running from the ultimate storyβ€”our universal origin story. The story of the eternal mysteries of the universe. And I care about what happens to people in stories because, for the first time ever, I finally care what happens to me.

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