For those who have no idea what Amino is, basically it's a social media app where people make communities based on certain topics. This community in particular is for RPF (Roleplay Fighting).
What happened?
One of the users known as Lazarus was outed as a p-dophile and promptly banned, only for him to be welcomed back into the Amino because the jannies didn't want to update the app. (Kinda understandable since the newer updates are shit.) But this only got so much backlash that he was shortly unmodded and banned again for doing pedophillic shit as usual. This brings us to about a year later where shit hits the fan as the Amino gets the most activity it's ever seen at 12am, the mods incompetency when it comes to dealing with pedos finally boils over. A user who goes by Libby (who was a minor) is banned for being victimized by a groomer named Gravik. So what did Gravik do? He posted revenge porn of children and attempted to justify it and most likely got Libby to sell ERP when she was underaged at the time (Which is absolutely r-slurred. How lonely do you have to be to pay someone to type "-humps you-", especially from a kid.) He also sent very creepy and sexual messages towards more children.
As I'm typing, the mods are silencing all discussion of this in the general chats and trying to move it to a post which doubles as a half-assed apology from the mods themselves basically saying "we're wrong sorry" for a thousand words. Nobody is satisfied. The post is hard to have a conversation in and easier for jannies to control. But I've got archives on that shit baby.)
I'm on mobile so I'm able to read what our leader ThvRedBandit has to say. Amino is hard to navigate on PC if you don't have an account or the app.
Hello members of Roleplay Fight Club, also known as RPFC.
Sometimes we like to call you our “loyal members” or our “fighters and writers,” but in recent times we don’t exactly have the right to make that claim. We’ve lost your trust as our members.
This is ThvRedBandit speaking. I’m sorry if I sound like a suit at a press conference. I don’t think of myself as higher than the rest of you. Neither of the moderators does. We know as well as all of you that this community is nothing without the support of its members. We go through rough patches, but in general, we love the lot of you. All of you. You make this place possible and you are the culture. We shouldn’t make decisions for ourselves but for the safety and best interest of you guys.
You may expect us to downplay it, disable or moderate the comments
He would later restrict all discussion about this madness out of the main chats and into the post.
But that’s not what this PSA is about. When poo hit the windshield in the Friendly Realm, I had to let that happen. When it came to the Necronomicon, I had to let that happen too. I’ve been known for damage control, and wrangling loud members, but I couldn’t silence what was being said. It would’ve been wrong too because we, the moderators, were in the wrong.
We were considering temporarily banning Libido, a victim of being prey to a predator, on account of selling inappropriate content that attracted p-dophiles. However, as I dug I found less evidence supporting that, but she did sell some illicit things. Still, it was pressed that she lied about her age before engaging in sexual relations, but further evidence unearthed that too was illegitimate. It was also believed she withheld evidence on known p-dophiles, but this is an ongoing debate.
Why was she temporarily banned then? For selling erotic roleplay when she was underage.
That may shock you and I wouldn’t blame you. There’s a lot of discussion on this and it would take an essay to unpack it all. If you want to take it out in the comments, I invite you. The chats won’t be silenced and neither will your thoughts and concerns. The decision to even temporarily ban Libby has to be our poorest conclusion yet. I will come forth and say I was the one who told Lib the unfortunate news and would have pushed the button since it’s usually a leader’s job and I’ve banned friends before, so I thought it would go smoother. I had a chance to get her side of the story and I began digging. Her ban was decided after a vote. Who voted what won’t be stated, but the fact we allowed this deserved your outrage. Until it was Lib’s time up here on the platform I dug for more evidence because I wasn’t satisfied, but failed to find anything else, so I felt like I had no other choice. I didn’t know what to do. However, I could’ve always spoken up about a different punishment, but didn’t, and that’s my mistake I’ll live with. Randomz was working the entire time and constantly popped in and out of our discussions. He wasn’t sure a definite decision was made and wasn’t aware of the vote being the final verdict. It's safe to say our communication tonight was not the sharpest.
After hearing your voices, I proposed we act and we unbanned Libido and would give her a lighter sentence for selling erotic roleplay. A ban should have never been on the table. She’s been able to return pretty much when you guys started raising your voices. It did not take long. That’s the power of you guys. I always say this, but your voices do matter. Speak up. Always speak up.
In a few hours, the mod-run public chats will need to return to their original topics, but no one is getting banned, warned, or getting a strike for speaking up at the mods.
The RPFC moderation team will use this opportunity to reflect on how to better handle these matters in the future. I hope you can see that I’m being honest with you because I regret all of it and hate having damaged the community so much. If I made one decision differently before this could have all been avoided. I’ll try to answer what I can in the comments, but some of you know my situation. I’ve been tired for months, and even though I got a home now, I have to rebuild myself in the real world, but this community should be rebuilt too. Thanks for being here or having been here.
The comments
I have a small feeling that if it was someone in the same shoes are Libby but as a random, the sentence would have been greater but part of me says it might be due to favoritism. Selling erotic roleplays via photos, text or art is against the community guidelines as it follows the Sexual Content & NSWF rules stating: "*Any behavior or content that sexualizes minors is S͟T͟R͟I͟C͟T͟L͟Y͟ prohibited and may result in Amino reporting you to law enforcement agencies."
Except all those times people much older than 18 took literal years to ban for their offenses, and then still weren't perma banned til much later. Weird how there can favoritism for someone the mods had decided to ban previously lol. Also pretty sure this mod team has put more effort into punishing the victim than it ever did into seeking authorities against the perp
But even defending a minor of doing actions that they were completely in control of doing is completely wrong which leaves the Mods to be unfair towards the age system. Minors need to learn their place even on an app made for them to let their imagination expand. Learning that sexualizing other minors whether you are yourself or not is not allowed by community guidelines and big Amino guidelines.
Reprimanding a minor as a direct result of an attempt at vengeance by her abuser is not only wrong, but most likely mentally damaging and lessens their chances of ever coming forward in the future, since thy were punished for coming forward before. The exact reason more women dont come forward with abuse alligations unless they were a perfect victim. Retroactively punishing someone years in the future for bad decisions they made as a child being groomed sounds like a retaliation, not like a lesson to learn.
Dude below me is a victim-blaming p-dophile apologist upset that the community prevented a miscarriage of justice against a victim of statutory r*pe. Steer clear of them.
The person below says...
If she was doing ERP as a minor then the ban should certainly stay. If anything Amino should get involved and permaban the account.
Don't apologise for doing what you need to do to protect minors.
Edit: After looking some more, what it seems to be is that a small subsection of the community is kicking off and pushing you into making an apology you don't need to make. Stick to your guns, and if the desenters want to keep messing around, well bans for them as well. This community will continue without them.
Yeah if she was actually doing this than a ban is very much worthy that is against amino guidelines and the law. That's also trapping anyone else who believed she was that age.
You should refrain from commenting if you don't know much of the story. Lib's behavior was by and large present while she was being victimized. Most of these claims have not been verified either.
The decision also has context, being driven by a known predator who defended and admitted to his actions. It was retroactive, meaning long after the fact, and it was a little more than a case of mods digging into someones troubling past and the confirmation bias of already having taken the side of the predator.
What age? Minor age? How did she "trap" adults into sexual conduct with a minor? How is it entrapment if an adult is willing to have s*x with someone they know is a minor? Do you want to have s*x with a minor? Sounds like you do.
You sound like the type to blame r*pe victims for dressing provocatively. Teenagers do dumb shit, and what she did actually technically isn't against the rules. But her abuser was a p-dophile, and deserved the permaban. Heck, deserves to have the police knocking his door down. But here we are.
ERP isn’t a bannable cause or else 85% of this community would’ve already been gone. Secondly, it’s up to always ask peoples age and if they are two consenting adults then go for it.
User explains why the post is shit
Okay, so am I the only one in here that thinks this blog was more or less just..like. “Hey, we noticed that everyone wasn’t as happy so here! Have them back” sorta? Like I understand many weren’t happy about it from everything that seems to be surfacing around. But when I was on one of the chats last night I don’t know who but I saw a screenshot of some user with “I can’t wait to frick your v*rgin *****” and since then I said frick that im out. Now, that im returning and see all this and some people who think that the person who this was said to (and pls tell me if im wrong) was still a minor back then should be permanently banned for having a convo with a grown butt adult person. What type of logic is that? Shouldn’t as the adult, known any better as to what they were doing? I understand where some ppl come from with the whole you know “but they did this” or whatever but often times there has been a lot of research (this could be done by yourself) where this type of over sexualization happens almost as often because they might’ve gone through something or they weren’t mature enough to realize it. And from what else happened in the chat I think said person was either 16 or 17 which is still fairly young. I believe (don’t quote on me) that the adult brain doesn’t truly develop until the age 25 but you start to realize things after 18? But, enough of that, that’s all I say. I feel like a more reasonable thing would be a temporary ban but definitely not a whole year.
Popular users announce their departure as jannies crack down.
Warsplitta: (http://aminoapps.com/p/iz2z03)
I’m not sure where else to start besides frick this community. And frick this app. Frick all 5 years of bullshit I had to go through, and that everyone else had go through. I feel like a broken record saying this but this app has been fricking DRAINING ME of my motivation, of my happiness, and of my mental health overall. I’ve sunken 5 fricking years, since middle school, into this app and all for what? For nothing besides the feeling that is only amplified this idea that I ended up ruined and turning myself into a fricking failure, that’s what. I’m done. For good. I recommend you all leave too. This place has been on life support for too fricking long, and it’s about time the plug gets pulled. I would say some more shit but I just… can’t anymore. I’m too drained. Too emotionally exhausted. So that’s it. If you want to contact me, contact me on my groomercord. My ID is Big b0ss#6849. I’ll gather whatever shit I need tomorrow and in the next couple days if I didn’t get to gathering enough shit, but once I got everything I need I am out for good.
Some of the mods have also took a step down from their position.
Replacement community is made (courtesy of me) https://aminoapps.com/c/RPBattleArena
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Why would banning a single user for libertarianism require them to update the app? Was the libertarian the guy in charge of updating the app or something like that?
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There are new moderation features in later updates in regards to ads, unecessary features, and chat regulation but the updates also has a 3.5k (i think) character limit for messages and out of the 96% of people who refuse to update the app, only the p-do didn't mind. But since these are roleplayers who participate in online peepee measuring contests, they love to word wall in order to epically own the other persons oc. Jannies value those T1 roleplay fighting rulesets too much to moderate the users more effectively and stop p-dophiles from grooming.
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i still dont think you've explained why banning this user would make them update the app
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Jannies chose to be lazy, if they updated the app themselves they would lose access to old features (no text limit like he said). So they hired a p-do they trusted to do it.
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