This is a response to https://rdrama.net/post/125021/redditors-sneed-over-best-healthcare-deal where American Redditors are crying about how shitty the USA health care system is compared to other countries glorious "free / socialised healthcare systems."
Socialised health care systems are fully shit, full stop. I still pay for mine and other people's healthcare with the insane amounts of taxes I pay and would rather pay for a decent private plan or at least have the option.
Doctors and nurses lose because they have to beg the government for decent pay. We have doctors and nurses leaving en masse to work in the USA where they'll actually make money, leaving us with hospitals staffed with doctors and nurses trained in India or Africa who barely speak English.
The document also suggests that approximately nine out of 10 Ontario residents seeking hospital treatment in an emergency room waited up to 33.4 hours for an inpatient bed in August 2022, which officials say is a 54 per cent increase compared to August 2021.
Share this with American fats who cry about how terrible their healthcare is.
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Democracy
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democrazy is a false religion.
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We've had 500k new immigrants every year for the past 20 years. The majority settles in the Toronto area and we haven't built any new hospitals. I wonder why a house costs 1million plus here too
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The hospital shortage is entirely because of butt-headed bureaucrats and policy makers. They have 1 hospital in Brampton serving 600,000 people in the city + probably another 600,000 in the surrounding area. Meanwhile, the natives near Thunder Bay are delaying a $600,000,000+ hospital from being built because the construction companies won't hire any of the indigenous locals to work. Why? Because those natives refuse to buy insurance that's required to work. Also, that $600,000,000 dollar hospital is going to only serve about 60,000 people when it's built.
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I grew up in Brampton but left 20 years go because of how literally r-slurred it is now. Brampton was full of Scottish and Portuguese ppl when I grew up there in the 80s now it's Punjabi-ville. And I have no doubt the population of Brampton is way higher because punjabs live with 3-4 other undeclared families living in one house.
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Lmao this neighbor from braptown
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God, Brampton sucks. All the Indians that work in Tim Hortons on foreign worker visas instead of for Microsoft or Amazon as SWEs end up there. And they really do deserve the highest auto insurance in Canada. They fricking suck at driving. I never want to hear anyone call Asians bad drivers as long as Brampton is a city and contains Indians in cars.
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Punjabi women are the absolute shittiest drivers itβs true.
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I used to work in a city that was 99% Indian immigrants and would constantly have to dodge awful drivers if I drove outside for lunch. It was always Indian women who were watching some shitty tv show on their phone mounted in their car.
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sorry sweety but I need to catch up on the next episode of Rami Rami Pooja Bhar
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Wow unbelievable! There must be boatloads of doctors among those 500k that could staff those hospitals, too!
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Boat loads of aged Punjabi grandfathers.
TRANS LIVES MATTER A HECKIN HECK.
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The Canadian experience of weighing the pros and cons of going to the hospital or just spending another day in pain because the injury might go away and you don't want to waste a day in the emergency next to some single mom whose kid has a fever
America please come keep our country safe
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My gran had to wait 18 months for a hip replacement and my neice spent over a week on a gurney in the hallway of the psych ward after gall bladder surgery because they had nowhere else to treat her.
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Unfortunately those people are EOL products, have you considered euthanasia? It's the most humane way to die of hold age, Science says so.
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Iβm considering euthanasia now tbh itβs just so much more convenient.
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Your raking charges will be 10,000 maple leafs and 5% tip
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Need to keep jovially posting about how lame this country is so my seething doesn't come through
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At least the government now officially supports the leaves raking themselves
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Just vote for an open border with us
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Exact same shit happens in Burgerstan. Primary care docs accepting medicaid are few and far between, so yes that exact scenario is also going on here.
But each major city has multiple hospitals, different institutions running each one (though corporate type consolidation is a problem). Either way the issue is that ER docs are terrified of yeeting anyone out of the waiting room for fear of a lawsuit no matter how stupid the reason for being there, and some morons are apparently willing to wait there for 12 hrs to get benadryl.
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Watch the government blame the antivax
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Ontario premier is a rightoid (brother of famous crack smoking Toronto mayor) so probably not
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Im still not convinced it isn't just the same guy and they're gaslighting all of us.
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Iβm gonna block you
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Itβs because weβre both trans men
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We legitimately are entertaining strategies for legally poaching Canadian healthcare workers, lmao.
The brain drain from Canada over the next decade is going to be a hilarious tragedy.
You need to move ASAP, because American hospitals are understaffed and are increasing wages.
Seriously, you're about to be gigafricked. A nurse doubling her salary and paying half the taxes is the upcoming draw.
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Yeah itβs not a big puzzle to figure out if youβre a nurse or doctor - you can work in Ontario and make maybe 100k a year as a nurse and freeze your butt off half the year or move to Florida get hired with a signing bonus, make the same or more while having 1/2 the cost of living.
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Thank god my mother taught me to stitch wounds
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No wonder there pro suicide
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When you're killing off people who pose an undue burden on the healthcare system, it does have the advantage of freeing up resources for everyone else.
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What's making this even worse is that Canada has the third-highest per capita spending on healthcare worldwide. So not only do you need a private insurance to get healthcare by reasonable western standards, you still pay for public healthcare with a shitload of your taxes
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Be privately insured?
No wait times.
Why do Poorcels always have to moan so darn loud about being poor?
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I would love to be able to buy private insurance for better wait times.
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Poor
At least in Deutschistan you can switch after making 64k.
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We have excellent medically assisted suicide her though.
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Poorcels have so many options we rich people would never even think of.
So lucky.
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As an expat leaf Iβve had the luxury of experiencing healthcare systems in multiple OECD countries and I am confident that Canada has one of the worst.
And whatβs even worse is that when you mention any sort of privatization or systematic overhaul of the healthcare system to other leafs, itβs like youβve committed heresy. Leafs think itβs their fundamental duty to protect the single-payer system at all costs to the point that theyβve lost sight of the fundamental goal of universal healthcare, which is to deliver the most effective care possible.
Whenever I mention on /r/Canada or /r/CanadaPolitics that european countries like the Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium and Germany thrive on private or mixed-private systems, the excuse always the same. Provincial health authorities will just sell the healthcare system to the Irvingβs or some shit, provincial health authorities canβt be trusted to privatize healthcare in good faith.
Itβs hard to make a system better when people have resigned themselves to βour healthcare may be shit but at least itβs not as bad as how Michael Moore presented American healthcare in Sickoβ.
Just sad overall really, and horrible leafcare is why Iβm hesitant to ever return.
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Fellow leaf here, its actually maddening how opposed other leafs are to any degree of private healthcare in any capacity.
Allow for privatised elective healthcare? Allow private hospitals to exist? Make a two-tiered system? NO THAT WILL UNDERMINE OUR WONDERFUL AND GREAT HEALTHCARE THAT'S A MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN AMERIKKKA'S!
It's all so tiring.
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Can you get insurance in Canada and just skip the poorcel freeloaders in line? Insurance isnβt even that expensive To begin with
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MAID yourself leaf
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I can't believe that Mexico has the best healthcare system in North America
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LET THEM DIE
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You are a liar and a free speech hater. Eugenics != genocide
Snapshots:
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At least it'll be free when you bleed out after 10 hours in the ER, leafoids
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