:marseypainter: sneeds at :marseypoor: for not buying their expensive art and for using cheaper AI art programs

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Have you ever thought about how people don't have $100 fricking dollars to pay an artist for commissions? For one commission? Sorry I'd rather pay $25 a month for INFINITE stolen artwork than one $200 commission "made with love". I've got bills too dawg

Finally. Somebody who ain’t trying to simp and is actually being real. Literally getting the most for your dollar. Didn’t realize that was a problem

the fact that people care more about saving money than they care about artists literally is the problem

I believe in free markets not morals sweaty

:#marseyyes::!#marppy:


I mean. It’s 8 dollars for 30 days of whatever I want versus a 100$+ commission. One commission. Idk bout you but you not bout to make me feel guilty for being smart with my money. Silliest take I’ve seen today tbh

Oh sorry I like to commission real artists and not pay for stolen art. One commission that benefits a human being or dozens perpetuating theft

Art is a luxury I cannot afford living off 800$ a month from SSI. So it'll have to be AI art. Atleast it's accessible to me.

But ai art isn't the only alternative? You can still enjoy art online for free, enter art raffles, try out drawing or writing yourself if your health allows and do exchanges with people. You can still fully support artists when you can't afford it; ai art damages us.


An artist I know wanted over $100 to draw a charicature cover of a bday card (standard half-fold, about 5x7in). Tried asking for no color, just line work. Didn't change the price. I declined and ended up using Bitstrips (back when that was a thing). I should have let him rob me?

So you robbed multiple other artists' works to create some horrendous piece that can't get eyes or hands right. You're so cool.

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For those who said 8$ is less pricy than commissioning an artist, buying art is a luxe, not a need. You don't necessarily need a art piece. Artists would put 100$ for one piece and it would still be underpaid. Please reconsider buying/using AI if it's not for study purposes.

so poor people just shouldn't have art? man i want pretty walls with pretty artworks too

Yeah just like if you can’t afford to tip don’t eat out kind of BS this is becoming


People are ok with paying an electrician 100 dollar for 1 hour of work, but don't want to pay artists 100 dollar for numerous hours of work... What a world we live in

If an app could fix electrical issues for $8 everyone would use it. You are comparing apples to oranges. Not everyone has $100’s of dollars for art.

Then you don’t have the money for art point blank. It’s a luxury not a need. If you can’t afford it you save you don’t pay someone to steal for you.

Sorry if you're poor you're not allowed to enjoy things!


Yikes some of the replies to this 😬This is why I can't support this, it's just outright disrespectful to artists trying to make a living just cause you're broke and can't afford it 🤡 draw it yourself or cry about it

Looks like you're gonna have to get a new job soon to support yourself

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Lmao this one actually doesnt miss

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So good

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New soyjak just dropped :marseyxd:

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no way this aint a goatsee referenced

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Holy shit that art fricking sucks

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That's the doggo from chainsawman. It actually looks like that.

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Chainsaw Man is reddit incarnate

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:#soycry:

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Rhinectomyjak

(trans lives matter)

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AI wins again

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I just got this using local AnythingV3

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edit: just got this

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edit: I'm still amazed I can generate 4 of these as a batch in 10 seconds on my own machine... i love xformers :marseylove:

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Its like looking at you if you were thin and attractive

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negging 😠

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its super over for artists

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I asked for a mario T-shirt and now everyone has princess peach earrings and link hair

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Eww it's all lame and japanese GROSS :marseyimpossibru:

...unless that was intentional. If so, eww your taste is all lame and japanese GROSS

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I don't know why it generates that very specific genre of character but it's hilarious

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I was using a weeb model (Anything V3) because the magnitude of autism that went into it's creation causes it to have better results

Here's what happens when you ask for "Realistic style" at the beginning, and if you put anything related to nintendo anywhere in the prompt it starts giving you nintendo style characters

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I don't know what's happening here with the two panels it came up with, but it's intriguing

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maybe thats what the average artcels self insert character looks like.

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Saw someone crying later on that Twitter thread about whitewashing in AI.

Like yeah, most anime is white characters and most photos on the internet are of white people because the internet has been in white areas longer and photography inherently favors white skin.


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Every AI model you use has a prominent massive disclaimer about inherent western and english language cultural bias, and they make you sign that you won't use it in a harmful way or to promote negative stereotypes

edit: except for the chinese ones-- they don't care

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>most anime is white characters

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Whit/beige skin tones. You know what i meant. Don't be a cute twink about it, my blood is already angry enough today between cartards and my wife.


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Powerful Garfield. I feel Jim Davis pouring his heart out here. Jon is a wretch.

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Sorry I'd rather pay $25 a month for INFINITE stolen artwork than one $200 commission "made with love"

Exactly how much are these guys masturbating per hour?

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I wonder how many of these supposed paragons of virtue have ever pirated a movie or vidya. :marseythinkorino:

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the take i wanna see someone use: was sampling in oldskool hip hop ok? Any hiphop made before like 2000 was made with between some and all samples uncredited, shoeld the entirity of hip hop history be shunned?

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nooo sampling in hiphop was done with love and specific intent by a human artist it wasn't automated noooo

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Going to get a lot of mileage from this one

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Oh I already am lmao

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hoeld the entirity of hip hop history be shunned?

Yes

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Oh look at me, i made a song with over 1,000 bars, this is groundbreaking, literally nobody else is capable of yammering random sentences over a repeating background sample for eight minutes

>Kill you with weed vapour, then a taser, then a laser, Then a maser, then a phaser, then something they call scalar


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shoeld the entirity of hip hop history be shunned?

Why is this even a question? Nothing of value would be lost.

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Why are you white?

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I'm a :marseychingchong: so I hate hip-hop more than a mayo.

A bit of the old stuff was good but current year hip-hop is keep yourself safe tier.

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Yea but we’re not talking okay boomer ft. Ariana Grande we’re talking about Wu Tang Clan

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older hip hop was even worse

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Funny thing about hip hop is you listen for the samples, leave because of the lyrics. And then there’s some samples that would be pure heresy to even have the audacity to put a vocal track on top of (J Dilla)

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>be me

>have mundane work to do

>internet is out

>get out radio

>pick random station

>background sample from The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

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>drum sample comes in

>obnoxious singer

>what is she on about

>i wish she would shut up

:marseyrain:

I ended up listening to Glennpai :marseycringe2:

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Beck or Greenwaldt?

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TBF I would be surprised if more than like 3% of zoomers even know how to pirate anything in the first place.

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The apple app store and its consequences have been a disaster for zoomers

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Mandatory torrent classes for xoomers when

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Nooooo you can't close out when you're done downloading, you need to contribute back!


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B-But Nintendo is a global tech empire! They're just humble artists with a patreon that only makes 70k a month! :soycry:

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:marseypearlclutch:

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It's not the same because I didn't put any time or effort into making it! :marseyraging:

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I bet most of them are using pirated Adobe products.

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All of it

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You remember those bad guys from Star Wars? The Jedi were like dude respect the force and stuff and the bad guys were like no everyone should obey me?

Well it's kind of like that except artists are the Jedi and Ai is the Dark Side and the force is not a luxury anymore.

EVERY FRICKING TIME. :marseydisney:

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>The Jedi were like dude respect the force and stuff

>the bad guys were like no everyone should obey me

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Twitter and reddit r-slurs try to understand real life without using children's Disney references challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

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They say that while insisting ai art should be banned and you should be forced to pay for shit art no one wants

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Artists are the most privileged annoying ppl on the internet.

>WAAAHHHHH Pay me !!!

get a job if you arent getting enough commissions. Choosing to do free lance anything and then blaming others that u dont get enough work -_-

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If you're good people will pay you. Because you can be way more specific than any (current) AI program with commissions.

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I think that AI is good for generic Artstation photobashes and speed paints, but it absolutely does not stand up to scrutiny or detailed inputs.

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Yet

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I think it's always gonna struggle with advanced compositions with multiple characters interacting, dynamic action and odd perspectives. Heck, even when you just want to communicate a clear message through composition it'll cause issues.

These are things that you really can't properly verbalize easily through prompts. As such the AI isn't the problem, the layman's inability to properly conceptualize and communicate is and it'll be hard for tech to overcome that.

Then again you don't need to be a master artist to solve it either, you could approximate a lot of it with posable 3d models. That said knowing what, how and why you'd arrange these things still takes some training and composition overall will probably become a much important aspect for artists as AI cowtools take over much of the rendering.

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Even now, someone with basic art software skills cam get a lot more mileage out of artgen than the prompt-only layman. Most (all?) variants can take an image as an input, so doing something like posing some 3D models in Blender and using it as a starting input can help generate more complex compositions tremendously.

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It won't always need to be driven by text prompts. You can already drive it almost entirely using images, eventually you'll probably have a tool like photoshop where you can specify exactly what goes where in a 3d space and have it generate it for you. You'll probably even be able to dynamically modify the camera angle and shit in the scene it's created for you.

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It’s moving so fast with all this attention I think it’s inevitable it replaces a lot of shit lol.

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Yea but most art is just generic pleasing background images anyways

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I'm glad we have @X (formerly chiobu) chained up in the Marsey mines doing it for free. Slave labor is real labor.

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Hey @X (formerly chiobu) can u make a marsey where he's kicking zombie wolf off the table kinda like Garfield kicking odor off the table that would be funny I think


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do u have a picture of garfield kicking the dog for reference?

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'm really good at being a lazy butthole

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Artcels are almost exclusively rich white kids larpering as poor. No poor or middle class parent is going to let their kid go to art school.

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A lot of artcels didn’t even go to art school, they just drew a lot and expect to charge ridiculous prices for a hobby.

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Selling art without a loicense? That's 5 to 10 years. :marseybongcop:

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You’d be surprised.

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Robot waitresses and bartenders next please

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Freelancers deserve to die

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90% of the Twitter artists complaining about AI Art have a style that’s indistinguishable from the thousands of other artists on that site. The best ~10% artists will survive Ai and the other 90% of hacks will have to get a real job, which is for the best.

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Its also almost all furries.

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Most furry art is very derivative and easy for AI to learn but furries are also extremely neurodivergent about minor details it might miss.

I'm not sure what'll win, a free coom or 100% ref sheet accuracy.

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The .03cm blue spot on the front of his lower left calf ISNT THERE :marseyraging:

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Yeah furry, anime or some sort of generic globohomo digital art.

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if you're poor you're not allowed to enjoy things!

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If you're poor you should probably start to enjoy a second job

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I'm loath to agree with an a*tist but I do love dunking on poorcels.


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But not because you should be giving that money to entitled twitter artists.

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i've never seen a real artist complaining about this, at least not with this angle, mostly just wannabecels that are not getting money anyway.

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I think AI art should not be legal for commercial use due to a legitimate concern over plagiarism and tracing. But private ::marseycoomer2: use? Yeah you shouldn't stop that, and you can't stop that.

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One of the biggest anti-AI flagbearers is that one concept artist that draws dinosaurs and "realistic" pokemon. Ended up muting him on twittwr cause he was absolutely everywhere sneeding whenever the topic of AI art came out.

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>People are ok with paying an electrician 100 dollar for 1 hour of work, but don't want to pay artists 100 dollar for numerous hours of work

Yeah, because electicians are actually useful

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Also if we could get AI electricians to work for less we would switch immediately

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>Here’s your new solar panel installation bro, my calculations predict this will be perfectly stable in standardized environmental conditions :marppybiden:

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Try your best, Flex the rest


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if there were AI electricians people would pay for those instead

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Same person would also 100% pay 8$ to an ai instead if that was an option.

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this was bait

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