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[๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜] Historic decline in IQ could stem from poor education, study shows

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Note that this is coming from a group that actively wants to make education worse, because a majority of them oppose the entire concept of education (359)

Quite the stupid strawman. The correct/honest representation of their position would be;"Views higher education as compromised by political bias, and increasingly sees it as little more than a left-wing cadre. Sceptical of the quality of education that students are receiving due to a perceived lowering of standards in the name of 'inclusiveness'*.*E.g. abandoning the SAT in admissions due to the fact that certain ethnic groups perform better or worse on standardized testing (I'll let you guess which ones). (-64)

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Ah, another one to block (392)

If we block everything we don't agree with then we end up with a very small view. I'm the opposite of conservative, but it's useful to see how the other side thinks. (-57)

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Note that this is coming from a group that actively wants to make education worse, because a majority of them oppose the entire concept of education (359)

As ridiculous as that article is, it doesnโ€™t claim what youโ€™re saying it does. Itโ€™s more of an axe to grind against colleges. It doesnโ€™t say anything in there about rejection of the very concept of education (-34)

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People got the entire internet at their fingertips and theyโ€™re getting dumber? (25)

You would think it helps, but the number of college grads in my field who can't find answers to simple problems on Google is really disheartening."It's broken.""What do you mean 'broken'?""I just get a white page.""Did you check the error logs?""Yes.""And...?""I googled but didn't find anything.""What was the error?" (28)

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Does it correlate with any of the following:Higher consumption of seed oils and high fructose corn syrup.Increasing levels of youth poverty.Decline in household stability due to economic situation.Exposure to environmental contaminants like those found in now banned pesticides, and non stick cookware.Neurological damage from covid19 passing through the blood brain barrier.The answer is of course yes.Supporting data:Higher consumption of seed oils and high fructose corn syrup:Studies have linked a higher consumption of seed oils and high fructose corn syrup to a range of health problems, including obesity, type 2 diabetes, and cardiovascular disease. These health problems can negatively affect cognitive function, which may be reflected in declining IQ scores. For example, a 2017 study published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease found that a diet high in fructose led to cognitive decline in rats. (Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5450455/)Increasing levels of y... (2)

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"Progressives would rather threaten you with violence, silence your conservative views, or call for you to be "canceled" from our society if you oppose them. They say your views are dangerous, hateful, fearful, or racist.They have it all wrong. What we stand for defines us."Sure, this part after the article casts everything I've read in a different light.Edit: found the comment section. It makes it look like there's a correlation between reading that website and IQ decline. I think I lost a couple of points myself. (1340)

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Differences in ability scores were present regardless of age, education, or gender.

!nooticers I feel there may be something missing here?

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HBDbros rise up!

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As a mathematician and a certified :marseynoooticer:, I'm going to chalk this up to a form of Simpsons paradox. If you have subpopulations that are different, it's possible to have trends one way in each group and the other way in the overall population. If, over the next decade, the IQs of Whites and Blacks went up by 5 points each but the Black population also doubled during this time, then at the end of the day the average American IQ decreased.

Saw this last year in a big UN report on human height. Global average decreased, media went with the "human health and nutrition is on the decline angle". Better angle would have been "European population shrinking, Indian population exploding."

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European population shrinking, Indian population exploding

This is bad phrasing when it comes to height. Should be European population slowing/decreasing. Shrinking make it sound like they're getting shorter.

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I thought it was the Arab population that tends to explode.

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I'm stronger that you. Guaranteed.

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It's wealth. They left out wealth. :marseymoney:

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the title literally says it's about poors

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S O C I O E C O N O M I C F A C T O R S

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Very perceptive of you, I can't imagine why they wouldn't want you to notice that

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The countries with the lowest average IQ scores are all full of BIPOCs and it's chalked up to their low education. Whether or not you personally agree that's what these professional paper writers have to assume because it's polite or something. Race isn't necessarily even noteworthy here, most likely these differences in ability scores were indeed present regardless of race, i.e. they got dumber compared to people of their own subset/race in the past. Or else it would mean one race or ethnicity has defied this over-all trend and has secretly gotten smarter while the others got stupider. Not impossible but Idk.

They should have kept gender out of that sentence as well and just left it to age and education tbh but I guess it's not that deep.

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The study just looked at USA between 2006 and 2018. Not controlling for race is ignorant enough to be scholarly malpractice imo.

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Is the average IQ for blacks really 85? (I'm guessing this is the USA, so this even includes all the halfbloods)

Holy shit that's scary

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Systematic racism, chud

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Nah bro they got the street smarts

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Literally 50% r-slurred lmao

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It's not like they're not controlling for race and other stuff like the mother's education level or socioeconomic factors. That's just not what the study is concerned with that much bc no matter how you slice it people are scoring lower on these tests than their counterparts have in the past.

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It's not like they're not controlling for race

It's exactly like that! You have to control for factors you aren't concerned with to get a clear reading of the one you are.

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If younger people get lower test scores across all races you can't explain that by just putting all the blame on your basketball americans, you know? Not every paper can produce cool new charts you can screenshot for your race spergs

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just putting all the blame on your basketball ameriKKKans

I'm not you fricking r-slur. The black proportion of the population stayed exactly the same. If you're comparing across time and you see a change then you need to control for obvious factors that contribute to that change. They don't need a racist chart comparing all races. If they just examined one race then that would be controlling for race

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>Share of US population that identifies as White has declined

yeah, we're all latinx and native american now for scholarships. Still here though

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It really is crazy how fast the demographics are changing. It doesn't really bother me, I'm engaged to someone of a different race, but it really is incredible when you look at the chart. In one generation the proportion of minorities has more than doubled.


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Mayocide imminent

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Yeah but they're Mexicans, many of which are indistinguishable from the already muttified mayos.

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>Graph

Now control for Latinx "white" as well.

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Chinx supremacy

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Surely importing hordes of r-slurs from the third world has nothing to do with this.

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Sexual orientation!

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Well at least now we know cute twinks don't have brain tapeworms that affect their IQ

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Stop noticing patterns, sweaty :marseyreich:

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