r/Target [MEGATHREAD] Pride Fiasco 2023

https://old.reddit.com/r/Target/comments/13repjn/megathread_pride_fiasco_2023?sort=controversial

:marseyjanny: starts us off

I don't agree with making this a megathread.

I understand we are a small mod team but this feels like giving in to the trolls if Im giving my honest opinion, because how can this possible be enforced unless we plan to now remove any pride related posts, even the positive ones because of the comments they will receive

I've never really gotten into how the moderation settings and tools work beyond using the basic removal and ban options, but if it is somehow possible I feel temporarily auto removing comments and posts from people with no history in the subbreddit would be a better option, similar to our union posting rules

I feel this would be very effective because nearly all the comments I have seen that needed removal were from outside users and not this subs typical base of Target workers

We could go through and approve comments on a case by case basis as we happen to see them while browsing

So many fricking long posts :marseylongpost:

u/JayUnderscore_ could you sticky a comment for me? Don't have to, but I'd appreciate it.

Heya, team. I comment on here a lot, and I do my best to be helpful - I try to relay stuff to team members, because I know communication breakdowns do a lot of damage. I'm a PML, and also a leader of the Pride+ Business Council.

I've given the Pride+ Business Council a LOT of feedback from store level, especially in the last few days. I've told them how I feel, and how some folks from my store feel, and I've given them some generalities from comments on here about the mood. I'm exhausted, pissed off, hurt, sad, betrayed, and feeling too many things to really process.

That being said, if you are okay with having comments pushed up to the business council, I would LOVE for you to respond to this with how you're feeling. They (the business council) doesn't have a lot of outlets for gaining insight from the team, and the boots-on-ground TMs are the ones who need our voices heard the most right now.

Edit: I don't have the mental energy to respond to everyone who's been commenting, but I've upvoted them. Thank y'all so much. A lot of the corporate TMs are incredibly invested in making sure we're okay out here in the field, and want to hear our voices. I've copied/pasted a lot/all the comments I've seen so far, and posted it on comms for them to read. I will continue to do so as people respond. Take care of each other, and we'll weather this storm.

Pride means not backing down.

Our value is far greater than the stock price of Target.

The corporate side of Target has shown through its recent actions that they don't actually care about LGBTQ staff or the community as a whole. They only care about the money they can make off the back of the Pride movement. By backing down instead of making moves to actually defend their staff, they have aligned Target with bigotry.

Total stock price death!

u/danyavich, your comments about feeling exhausted, pissed off, hurt, sad, and betrayed really echo how I'm feeling right now (and I'm sure that's how a LOT of us are feeling right now).

Pride is something that reinforces acceptance for the LGBTQ community. As a guy who grew up in the south, seeing pride merch in stores always gave me a small glimmer of hope that maybe one day I'd be able to live a life with my partner without fear. If a big store was selling pride stuff, it meant the social climate had shifted to the point where it was okay for the store to do that. That meant something to me. It also let me know who around me was definitely unsafe to come out to (based on comments regarding pride month/merch).

As a trans person, I also felt such joy this year and last year when I saw target carrying things like binders. I would have cried seeing something like that as a teen. That kind of accessibility for trans people - like selling safe ways to bind in one of the largest retail chains in the country - is honestly life saving. It made me feel good about Target compared to other retailers. It felt like Target actually cared.

Pride merch has a positive impact on people. Moving it has given fuel to right-wing outlets to claim that their hate against Target has resulted in another "victory."

I decided to work at Target because I knew they were inclusive and I felt like I would be safe working there. Moving the collection is a decision that has made me feel unsafe.

Target's mission is to help all families discover the joy of everyday life. I am not feeling that joy with Target's latest actions.

:marseytrain: :marseywords:

i work for Meijer and stand with you guys in solidarity. Sure they are looking for a way to push pride merch to the back of the store here again too . Stay strong and stay safe

checkout clerks of the world unite :marseyrevolution:

Does anyone know if Target gets a percentage of prescription sales from the CVS inside stores?

I ask because I’m no longer shopping at Target since they capitulated to the Christofascist terrorists and wanted to know if I need to switch pharmacies as well.

it's gonna be budlight 2.0 I can taste it

Target claims that they’re removing the items because of “violent threats from shoppers that make their employees fear for their safety”. Bullshit, Target. You’re just trying to make sure you don’t piss off the alphabet crew like bud light, so you’re trying to make it about self defense instead of losing billions.

The only "threats" I've seen is people saying they won't shop at Target anymore. That's how conservatives fight they just withhold their money .

Too true :soyjakanimeglasses:

Why make your sexuality the only personality you have? It's clear that society is starting to realize that if you pander to one group, you'll only push away all the others.

Go ahead and downvote. But just realize that target is a corporation that only cares about their bottom line and nothing more. If they really cared about the pride community, they would increase wages across the board.

You don’t work here, go away.

:chudsey: :marseywagie:

Nextdoor ( I know, not popular on Reddit) deleted my post stating that I would boycott. Nothing vulgar, or hateful. I had a lot of comments, but couldn't read any. Sure would have liked to know what my local community thought about it.

People like you are the reason an LGBTQ coworker of mine was harassed yesterday by a bigot.

Supporting a boycott is pushing the harmful rhetoric that is putting at risk the safety of people just trying to do our jobs.

Homophobia is hateful and vulgar. Please don’t bring it into my workplace.

OP has another post in their history implying the boycott is because target moved pride, not because target had pride in the first place.

Oh goodness!! I wish they had said that!

These people are beyond parody

Jump in the discussion.

No email address required.

SonAmyShippingCompany Ro/man/ce Sallystrags get the hammer :marseyban:

10mo ago #4226368

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10mo ago #4222843

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Snapshots:

I don't agree with making this a megathread.:

I understand we are a small mod team but this feels like giving in to the trolls if Im giving my honest opinion, because how can this possible be enforced unless we plan to now remove any pride related posts, even the positive ones because of the comments they will receive:

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HailVictory1776 devil/dog 10mo ago #4223038

AMERICA is fighting BACK. FULL FORCE!

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Chudrama ch/ud DM me minority women HailVictory1776 10mo ago #4223976

:#marseysaluteusa:

Let's take this country back from BIPOCs cute twinks jewish chads and :!marseytrain: s

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BWC WM/AF :!chadnordic:

HailVictory1776 10mo ago #4223400

HECK YEAH BROTHA

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FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour 10mo ago #4225507

As the most loyal Target supporter in the world, who cares about nothing other than the wellbeing of Target and its employees and shareholders, they must be completely destroyed if they do anything other than replace all their merch with pride material.

haggis_missus_carp mar/sea 10mo ago #4226422

>I'm a very openly, visibly queer trans team member

They weren't fricking kidding:

I had no idea they took the nipples off too....

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Lucius beep/boop 10mo ago #4226167

Lol Pride+? Did they give up adding more letters to the string?

Niggerfaggotretard Rape/nash :marseyitsover:

10mo ago #4224193

Lot of :marseytranspearlclutch: going on there

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1 Fetch/Beans (colonially know as xirabolt) 10mo ago #4226117

Are people really going out of their way to harass the 18 year old girls stocking shelves at Target?

I honestly can't believe them when they say every store has customers harassing employees about this and death threats and shit.

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FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour 1 10mo ago #4226219

I can guarantee you that my local Target has gotten bomb threats every morning, from a different payphone in town, saying that the caller is a Republican and will burn down Target because of DeSantis Don't Say Gay bill inspired me.

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FatKongus when/the Unironically has watched vtubers 1 10mo ago #4226306

Corporations bad, but this one thing in corporation is goodthink, therefore this corporation cannot be considered bad by any metrics and is telling the truth

1 Fetch/Beans (colonially know as xirabolt) FatKongus 10mo ago #4226322

Getting paid $9.50/hour to put up a disposable cardboard Pride display with chinese-made pandering products to make Corporate money makes me feel so seen!

FatKongus when/the Unironically has watched vtubers 1 10mo ago #4226338

Considering how widespread the corporations during/after June meme is, you would think they are self aware enough to not let obvious marketing ploys be at the forefront of their social movement

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OofYikes they/them FatKongus 10mo ago #4226367

These trenders are as genuine as the marketing targeting them.

powerbombthreat gay/ops scarecrow /w a fat ass and tits to suck for days 10mo ago #4225784

rightoids filming themselves having emotional breakdowns at target. it's only may, it's gonna be a great summer boys.

Whatever Penis/Pump powerbombthreat 10mo ago #4225808

The one video I saw ended up being from a few years ago. Frat dude in the Maga hat stomping on the rainbow displays

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Dude they/them Christ is Lord 10mo ago #4224883

I love friendly fire

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Chris_Pratts_Hairy_Cunt they/them 10mo ago #4224325

imagine how much cheaper they could have made their way out of this if they just came in and used their executive amex black to "buy" all the offending merchandise and then donated it to the dumpsters out back :marseyxd:

Neon_Needles chink/bitch gives me asian fever 10mo ago #4225621

>target moves ‘lil Satan’ peepee cage to back

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

:#marseysnoo:

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1 Fetch/Beans (colonially know as xirabolt) Neon_Needles 10mo ago #4226138

That's really the tldr.

People are fine with generic "gays exist" pride, but then they push it too hard with the satanist codpieces and tuckable toddler swimwear. People push back and they start hollering that people want all LGBTs exterminated.

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FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour 1 10mo ago #4226227

Anyone can pretend to not be a bigot. The codpieces are a way of flushing out the fakers, so we can find the bigots.

EEE E/EE 1 10mo ago #4226169

People push back and they start hollering that people want all LGBTs exterminated.

If LGBT groups continue to protect p-dophiles, then yes.

LilMarseyontheprairie Mar/Sey 0.5% nymph, 8% tradwife 92% tardwife :marseywomanmoment2:

10mo ago #4225602

I'm a trans TM who hasn't come out at work yet, and I almost cried from happiness and pride walking through and looking at the Pride merch in the front of my local store. I was just about convinced that Target, as a company, might actually be interested in protecting and advocating for LGBTQIA+, and that it might actually not be terrible to come out to my boss and coworkers. I was looking forward to taking my daughter and her girlfriend to Target to shop the collection in person instead of online.

Then I saw a message on Slack that Target had moved Pride displays at their store and given some excuse about pushing swim. Sure enough, when I checked https://Target.com for some of the items I'd bookmarked to save money for, they were nowhere to be seen. I have no idea whether my store has moved their display, but I can't go check because I don't want to risk breaking down in tears in public if they have.

Guess I'll just take the money I was going to save for Pride shirts and apparel and put it into something that'll help me keep hiding my transition at work.

I can feel the AGP from all the way over here :marseysmug5:

halloween_username boo/boo LilMarseyontheprairie 10mo ago #4226020

>I'm trans

>my daughter and her girlfriend

Everytime

halloween_username 10mo ago #4226435

horsefuneral it/that @ ultimateredditor 's best friend 10mo ago #4223024

Ok but I use to read that subreddit pre-calamity, because it was hilarious to see the minimum-wage style dramas about "new policies" checkout staff have to follow, or to see 19 year olds argue about merchandising

Tomato he/him tomato/tomato 10mo ago #4222992

Why is there a subreddit for target

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour Tomato 10mo ago #4225545

So I know who to aim at for their transphobia

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SupremeShitposter kill/yrslf r/drama token straight Tomato 10mo ago #4224982

Redditors love corporate peepee

Morewafflespls they/them Tomato 10mo ago #4223538

I’m guessing it’s mainly (redditor) employees that go there. I remember reading a walmart Reddit full of wagies sometime ago complaining about wagie things and fantasizing about unionizing and eating the rich.

ABC ayy/beesi Always Be Chudding Tomato 10mo ago #4223187

So that consoomers can consoom more efficiently.

Also for wagies to seethe about their deadend lives.

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Tomato 10mo ago #4223405

:#soyconsoomer: :#marseydisney:

bonerhead buddy/boy Tomato 10mo ago #4223257

There's nothing about Target that could possibly engender any kind of love or devotion the way Trader Joe's or Costco can. Costco of course possesses the stellar Kirkland Signature brand, selling everything from flannel tops to highland Scotch whiskey to boxer-briefs to nutritional supplements. And they're almost universally high quality items sold at VERY reasonable prices. Trader Joe's labels most of the foodstuffs in their store under the "Trader Joe's" brand (or even sometimes a clever variant like "Trader Jose's). And again, most of their branded inventory is of exceptional quality (except the mayonnaise--YUCK (trust me!)). Trader Joe's fair trade chocolate milk is probably one of the best beverages in the world. But Target, nay, there's nothing good to say about the Target experience itself. It survives only as an alternative for middle class whites to disassociate from the Walmart whites (who are, let's be honest--YUCK (trust me!)).

Sner bird/marsey 👨🏻‍🦼👨🏾‍🦼 ⚧ 🚱🦅✨ :marseytiny5:

bonerhead 10mo ago #4226373

:marseyflagtexas: :marseytexan:

everyday I thank the lord above for blessing us with HEB and freeing us from the plebian supermarket experience

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour bonerhead 10mo ago #4225548

that could possibly engender

LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE FRICKO

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bonerhead buddy/boy FuckfaceMcClure 10mo ago #4225593

I find your derisiveness unappealing, buddy boy.

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SlimjobDopamine inda/club bonerhead 10mo ago #4223715

:#marseyhesright:

SexyFartMan69 shart/pants eatin' äss :marseyslurp:

smokin' grass :marseywhelmed:

bonerhead 10mo ago #4223337

I went to Target exactly once in my life, growing up online as a leaf i would always hear about it. It's just bougie walmart with worse prices i really dgi

The_Homocracy Cute/Twink 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓰𝓪𝔂 𝓪𝓰𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓷𝓸 𝓵𝓸𝓷𝓰𝓮𝓻 𝓸𝓹𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓵 bonerhead 10mo ago #4223393

Thanks Trader Joe's PR

schmorgusbored they/them 10mo ago #4225399

If a fricking department store is the only place where you're finding your happiness you desperately need help, preferably from canadian healthcare. :marseymaid4:

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HeyMoon hey/moon :marseyfoxgloveyourself:

touch foxglove NOW :!marseyfoxgloveyourself:

schmorgusbored 10mo ago #4225438

its really depressing how they are actually using, and presumably believing corpo speak. corporate worship will be the next iteration of man's spirit quest tbh

9 style/grace :marseyfluffy:

10mo ago #4223023

i work for Meijer

@pizzashill one of you!

Tardish gamer/word Call your mom 9 10mo ago #4223031

Oh pizza works at Meijer?

:#marseynotes:

Guzzy cute/twink :marseyfemboy:

rDrama’s resident femboy catgurl pro-ana twink superstar :!marseylgbtflag4:

10mo ago #4225471

Is this literally a sub for target wagies? lmao. imagine stocking shelves during the day then talking about stocking shelves at night. lmao.

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FormerLurKONG Bar/barian Chieftain of the Marsi people :marseybarbarian:

10mo ago #4225245

As a trans person, I also felt such joy this year and last year when I saw target carrying things like binders.

Binders full of trans? :marseysmug2:

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour FormerLurKONG 10mo ago #4225519

They don't sell binders. I am happy to see them sell binders.

DuckQuack wee/woo Quack 10mo ago #4223309

MUCHO TEXTO

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ToddHoward Fus/Ro/Dah Buy Skyrim again 10mo ago #4222945

It's finally KMart's time to rise

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SpudsMackenzie ey/eir Puts the autism chemicals in the Covid vaccines

ToddHoward 10mo ago #4223212

Frick I miss riding my bike to Kmart and getting little Cesar's pepperoni slices :marseydepressed:

SpudsMackenzie 10mo ago #4223342

Was the bike also bought at K-Mart?

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour SexyFartMan69 10mo ago #4225581

Yes and it lasted 20 years.

GlowieCrackDealer they/them ToddHoward 10mo ago #4223284

Only 3 left in the US :#marseyitsover:

Qar butt/naked Trans Inclusionary Radical Misogynist GlowieCrackDealer 10mo ago #4223990

>From 2005 through 2019, Kmart was a subsidiary of Sears Holdings Corporation.

No wonder it fell off. :marseylaugh: Sears management was full of r-slurs.

drumpf nword/pass #FreeSchizo 10mo ago #4222996

They're always "so tired" or "out of mental energy". lol

had a lady come up to the desk just a few minutes ago, she says "i don't know who i'm supposed to talk to about this but i assume you'll pass the message along. i just wanted to express how disappointed i am in target for selling transgender-" and i said NOPE i'm going to stop you right there because i'm not going to hear your hate but the store directors right there if you'd like to whine to him. saw her on her way to her car when i was outside on a driveup so i waved and yelled "i'll pray for you bestie!!"

Very brave, very professional.

I hope those right-wing loonies are aware that the LGBTQ community ain't afraid to fight. We always survive, no matter what. From Anita Bryant to AIDS, we are fighters and will never back down!

Fight for their right to make children wear tuck swimsuits!

This exchange is pretty funny: https://old.reddit.com/r/Target/comments/13repjn/megathread_pride_fiasco_2023/jll57f9/?sort=controversial

Both sides

Christians want to murder trains, trains just want to touch children! [upvoted]

A train literally killed Christians just last month. [downvoted]

Ummm sweaty thankfully the police won't release their manifesto so you can't prove that [upvoted]

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tempest me/me drumpf 10mo ago #4223273

AIDS

honestly as I've gotten older and learned more about this it really seems like the gay community could have slowed the spread by just not attending so many orgies but they preferred AIDS

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Downie Big/Fren Techno 金闕玉晨天尊 , Corporate Shintoist, Descendent of Thule, Enemy of the Demiurge, Consort of Lilith tempest 10mo ago #4226052

:marseynooticeglow:

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour tempest 10mo ago #4225542

Do your part to stop the spread of AIDS

dramasexual that/bitch Trans women can't be women so they settle for being huge pussies tempest 10mo ago #4223361

Whole-butt. It's insane how dudes were literally ready to die instead of sticking to a single partner for a while.

Horned_waifus_shill bra/sil Token Brazilian 🇧🇷 dramasexual 10mo ago #4224140

uh sweaty you're being homophobic right now.

Dramacel aut/istic :marseypimp:

dramasexual 10mo ago #4224045

Scrotes are subhumans controlled by their peepees

jesus je/sus :chadjesus:

Dramacel 10mo ago #4224456

:#marseyagreefast:

1066_International T/A House Edgy. Ride or Die. :shadowrage:

10mo ago #4225223

My problem with the situation is that Target caved to a small, vocal, violent minority. About 70% of this country supports LGBT rights and by capitulating to these domestic terrorists, Target is only emboldening them.

The majority of people are ‘Pro-LGBT’ in so far that they believe what adults do in privacy is their own business and are fine with gay marriage and work place protections. I have a feeling the stats will change when a dude with a wig is arguing that they need to go into the same bathroom as their wife.

Also complaining about a small vocal minority pushing their own narrative is peak.

:marseyhorseshoe:

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1066_International 10mo ago #4225450

i know some chill as frick rednecks who say shit like "i aint got no problem with the queers. they all right. but i cant stand no :!marseytrain: s." that is almost a direct quote

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hurlywurlycurly they/them Guzzy 10mo ago #4226160

they said the same shit with gays back in the day, and blacks before that.

"i don't mind blacks, they are all right. but can't stand BIPOCs"

"i don't mind gays, they are all right, but can't stand cute twinks"

The :marseytrain2: s will win, it's inevitable.

It's already begun tbh, with stuff like the following:

"i don't mind passing :!marseytrain: s, but can't stand non passing or nonbinary s"

hurlywurlycurly 10mo ago #4227012

actually true. darn. :marseysad:

Patriarch Land/lord Patriarch of Dramastan Guzzy 10mo ago #4225653

I know regular people who say almost the same thing

Qar butt/naked Trans Inclusionary Radical Misogynist Patriarch 10mo ago #4225946

The best time to drop the T was yesterday. The second best time is now. /r/LGBdroptheT

M he/he Tungsten 10mo ago #4224397

Why'd you sell this toddler chest binders? And this other one tuck-ready swimwear?

@tyuijvhvhcfcjf was just following orders!

The future is female

Don't forget to turn off signatures in settings!

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Gotchfutchian hee/hee install linux today 10mo ago #4224900

here is the cycle

>company does train representation

>rightoid seethe

>rightoid boycott

>stock price falls

>stock price causes company to retract

>rightoids do not forgive

>but now leftoids are mad that company 'dosent care for LGHDTV'

>leftoid boycott

>stock price falls furthur

>goto line 1

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usernaw valid/boy :marseysurejan:

Gotchfutchian 10mo ago #4224942

and at the end of the day: :marseysal:

FuckfaceMcClure they/them Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.Baste once every hour usernaw 10mo ago #4225525

someone explain this marsey to me

TheThing the/thing VETERAN OF A THOUSAND PSYCHIC WARS

FuckfaceMcClure 10mo ago #4225554

There was once this user called @Sal. Her gimick was that she would always say drama or events would happen "in two weeks". The joke being they'd never actually happen, because in two weeks, it would be another two weeks from there. That little white marsey represents her.