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is it just me or is everyone mixing up empathy and sympathy nowadays
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Words mean whatever I personally want them to mean, sweaty. And you WILL use it how I want
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I wonder if the actual meaning is to push the idea that if you understand someone then you must agree with them aka acknowledging their lived experience tier stuff. To discourage 'I understand you but you're wrong' by just using the same definition for empathy and sympathy
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It's honestly a toss-up because, while these people are incredibly r-slurred and may not understand nuance, they would do ANYTHING to absolve themselves from responsibility and self-reflection
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tbh i don't even know the difference
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Empathy is to put yourself into other peopleβs shoes, is a very useful and respectful trait.
Having βsympathyβ is just to feel sorry.
Redditors mistake empathy with being overly emotional and melodramatic. They donβt understand one can empathize with people without breaking down into tears. They also donβt understand that one can cry a river without feeling any empathy at all, thatβs a very common tactic employed by narcissists and other manipulative persons.
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Thatβs an undesirable trait for anyone, not just men, but women as well. I donβt understand why anyone would like to be βvulnerableβ and feel like thatβs a good thing.
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bleak
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*my wife, her son
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Those are the funniest kind of menslibbers because almost all of them are unironically super patriarchal except they force progressive ideals upon their family instead of conservative ones so that makes it suddenly okay.
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how could anyone watch that show and think any of the dialogue from men was real and not from liberal white foids?
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Men who don't have male friends
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Unironically true and an underrated aspect redditoids fail to consider. Doesnβt have to be a lot of them, just having a couple of good male friends to hangout and talk is great for oneβs mental health self esteem. There is nothing wrong with befriending women, but if you only socialize with women youβll get a twisted view of what being a man means, not to mention getting terrible dating advice.
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And all women
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Youβre not kidding, the footballers in the show get super offended and heart broken for being called Cute twinks and called it βthe F wordβ.
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I havent seen this is. Is it good? Ive liked Jason Sudekis in other stuff, but havnt seen anything with him since Horrible Bosses 2
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It's alright, but it features a lot of that aw-shucks-look-how-nice fake pathos that modern millenials like in their shows to make up for the fact that they're deeply unliked and unlikeable people surrounded by more of the same in their real lives.
Some of the time it works well but it gets pretty saccharine and annoying sometimes. Granted I've only watched the first season, idk if it gets better or worse after that.
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My drunk saturday word of the day.
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Always glad to help a fellow boozer
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There was the episode where they called a female politician a Nazi for being anti immigration. It literally had nothing to do with the show, so weird.
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First season was kind of good. Season 3 was darn awful, looked like it was scripted by reddit. Filled with βle current yearβ issues and too much focus on Rebecca and Keeley, Ted barely appears.
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It's okay, I liked up up until the latter half of season one before the white woman snark really bled through. I can still watch it but you have to remember that anyone with a set of balls isn't the target audience.
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It seems okay from what I've seen. Maybe a good background comfy show, it is a little touchy-feely though
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I think itβs legitimately good but it has some cringe spots. Definitely a great show to watch with white women.
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Taking my cue from the thread - watch Detectorists instead. A perfect representation of a friendship between two men (as well as of a relationship between a husband and wife and, later, father and daughter.).
Ted 1 was good but Ted 2 started lecturing me in episode 2. Detectorists would never do that.
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Detroiters has Jason Sudekis in a few episodes, and is also a pretty good male friendship show
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Season 3 was terrible. Season 1 was a light hearted feel good show with some funny moments. Then it felt like the screenwriters were all women, a footballer chimps out for being called a cute twink and said and I quote βTHAT GUY SAID SOMETHING VERY IGNORANTβ
followed by βHe said the F wordβ
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All the weird social issue of the week episodes were bad, but the worst part was how they glossed over the dude's wife shacking up with the marriage counselor. I almost wondered if they were going to radical centrize and dip into the failures of too soft masculinity, but the dude's moment is he's up front in saying, "Shucks. That really hurts me." Not, "You lied to me this whole time and I don't want that unethical and duplicitous frick around my son. I'm calling whatever psych board society whatever and getting his license revoked." And all his friends supported the "aw shucks" option.
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Good take, Ted is a passive figure, the ideal feminist man.
Another dramacel in this thread pointed out that redditors canβt tell the difference between empathy and sympathy, and this is the perfect example. You should be angry if your wife banged your couple therapist, and actual friends should be pissed along, instead they are just all βIβm so sorry, thatβs sadβ. Empathy is not about pity, is about comforting and standing up for your loved oneβs.
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Ted was a horrible coach who didn't even try to learn the sport and told his professional team wining isn't everything. B-word I'm gonna get fired if I don't win
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Wow, who could have seen this coming?
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I still canβt believe the vitriol that got
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Imagine making this thread.
Snapshots:
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I knew it was TiTs before I even clicked it
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This show was praised by reddit. I can't watch it.
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