Fitness instructor tells redditor she hangs out with bitches in the nicest way possible, foids seethe and complain and type wordswordswords

https://old.reddit.com/r/xxfitness/comments/q31f87/stronglifts_and_toxic_masculinity/?utm_medium=android_app&=&sort=controversial;utm_source=share

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That guys sounds like a total butthole. Indeed time to switch programs.

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That entire paragraph sounded insecure to me. I think his feelings were hurt by the idea that someone didn't agree with him.

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Wow! What a terrible way to respond to a customer, let alone a human being.

Lmao

This is terrible. The assumption that women wouldn’t respect men that lift less is the most disgusting for myself. I do powerlifting and last weekend I brought my boyfriend to the gym to teach him some moves and he can’t lift the weight I do but that doesn’t mean I don’t respect him or see him like less of a man.

Foids of rdrama, do you respect weaklings? Correct answers only

He ends it with maybe you like weak men

I like men who are strong enough to handle constructive criticism about their microaggressions.

I can't squat 420 pounds or whatever, but strength doesn't require you to be an butthole. He'd probably call me a kitty for being a stay at home dad or for cycling instead of squatting for max power. But then I'd just respond that kitties are great and thank him for the compliment. I can guarantee my wife would drop me way faster if I fired off an email like that than if she could lift an arbitrary weight that I couldn't.

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100% and everyone is strong. There many different types of strength. - "My girlfriend has internalized misogyny and really wants me to see her as 'one of the guys' so that I will respect her and see her as an actual human being..." Disappointed, deleting the app :(

- A Woman straight up lies

I'm 5 feet tall and was only 95 lbs in high school when I hit my personal best of 370. Just saying. This was after months of weightlifting class and gaining 12 pounds of muscle, because I weighed 83 lbs when I started the class.

That’s a 370 lb squat at 95 lbs? Or 370 total?

370 in weights and bar.

You are either low-key one of the greatest raw squatters of all time or mistaken about the weight you squatted, as the highest recorded squat in powerlifting for any -44 kg lifter, regardless of gender, drug testing, and wraps, is 160 kg, or 352 lbs. Only a handful of people at that weight have squatted 370+ and that was in multiply or equipped lifting. See these rankings on open powerlifting for more information. Many very strong people do not compete, but given this data I would be very interested in hearing more about what you did to achieve a 370 lb squat at that body weight, which is an incredible accomplishment.

A woman lies AGAIN

I started powerlifting with my coach in 2015. He's had me lift with men who can bench 800lbs. They are well over 300lbs. Never once has one ever said anything negative to me as a female lifter. Even on bench day when we have to remove all plates to get back down to my working set of like 150lbs. Never even an eye roll. They have been the absolute pinnacle of inclusion.

790 is the current bench press wr btw

I just threw up in my mouth a little. All that answer is missing is some "well, achkually..." I mean sure, he's not technically wrong, but wow does he manage to sound like a jerk. 0/10 customer service too.

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I wonder if humanity will ever move beyond the idea that being factually correct justifies any and all means of delivering the message. He's not wrong that on average the men are stronger than the women with equal training. Apparently the current consensus is that this is almost fully explained by differences in absolute lean tissue, rather than hormones, the magic Y chromosome or what have you. Dudes have more muscle at the same weight, muscle makes human strong. But he's being an entire peepeehole about it and justifying his tone by bringing the opinion of a girlfriend into it - remember, women are a monolith - is simply bad rhethoric. By that logic, wait until he finds out that his opinion is invalid because I have plenty of manly male men friends who think toxic masculinity is real and should end because it harms society. Thank you actually for replying the way you did, we need to call out shit like that. The righteousness boner some people get from Being Right is appalling.

Wow. I may be wrong about everything. But at least i'm not RUDE

That's a lot of words for "I think women are inferior and I can't take any criticism whatsoever." 🤔 - yow, that's offensive. I'm tempted to suggest calling him out on twitter.

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"If I liked weak dudes I'd be into you but here we are"

Foids posting shit they wouldn't dare say irl again i see

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Every single sentence he wrote was an embarrassment to humanity. It never got better.

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"All powerlifting men's records are higher than those of women" That's not even true, though. Marianna Gasparyan holds that all-time total record in the 123lb/56kg class, regardless of s*x: https://openpowerlifting.org/rankings/56/by-total

Jesus chould you imagine a 56 kilo man?

just came here to say this is gross

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I already thought his program kinda sucks but ew ew ew throw the whole man away. Thank you for posting this, and I'm sorry you had to experience that bullshit.

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lmao, he should challenge women who do BJJ or Judo and see what happens

I would pay to see this but she HAS to crush him or he'll only become more insufferable

Foids and delusions. Name a better combo

Heres the "transphobic" part:

I don’t get how it’s transphobic. Also, isn’t Stronglifts for free so if you do it then you aren’t really supporting him are you?

The whole thing of saying a man is less of a man if he's not stronger than (a strong, well-trained, able bodied) woman. What does that imply about trans men? That they're inferior men because they have female anatomy. That they're "abnormal and embarassing" if they can't lift like an able-bodied cis man. Also note how he switches from talking about genders (men, women) to sexes as if they were synonymous. Transphobic.As a general rule of thumb, the "men and women aren't the same, there's differences between the sexes" is a dogwhistle for transphobia.

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This is extremely tame and he’s correct. This is what upset her??

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I just threw up in my mouth a little. All that answer is missing is some "well, achkually..." I mean sure, he's not technically wrong, but wow does he manage to sound like a jerk. 0/10 customer service too.

“it’s not what you said it’s how you said it”. But Mehdi does have a rather large ego for a professional trainer who has squatted 420 pounds

Lol I just checked his site and

One day my friends did amwrestling. I lost to all of them. Then I lost to a girl. When they did pushups, I couldn’t do a single rep. But that girl could. I had never thought about strength before. But that day I was ashamed of being so weak. I decided to figure out how to get stronger.

I started doing daily pushups. In 1999 I joined the gym. I trained like a bodybuilder for several years until they kicked me out. Then I built a home gym and began to train for strength. I got bigger and stronger. My belly disappeared. I got six pack abs. My confidence went through the roof.

My friends noticed the transformation. Before I was the skinny, unathletic weakling. I couldn’t get any girl (not even an ugly one). Now I was the “gym rat” – lifting hard, every week, no matter what. I had become disciplined and focused. Girls gave me more attention.

The foids might be a little right on this one

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I trained like a bodybuilder for several years until they kicked me out

We need to go deeper.

Foidposting aside this guy sounds like an untapped wellspring of lolmilk and copeseethe. Does anyone have the email address she replied to when she wanted to whine at him?

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it's a public mailing list you can get added. Also I think you can contact him through the site directly

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until they kicked me out

I'm sure this was due to the gym being unreasonable, not extreme autism (as is tradition for online fitness enthusiasts)

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Simp

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The "maybe you like weak dudes" was a little too catty but everything else was correct.

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It’s hard as frick to get rid of tells that reveal your former life, in his case as a skinny weakling

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Toxic masculinity is when men hurt my feelings

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Probably the whole respect part is what they're all sperging out about. While like 90% of moids can theoretically outdo any/all foids, it's still something that takes practice and effort, and probably 90% of moids couldn't outdo any foid that regularly works out. I guess they're upset that someone wouldn't respect them or something :marseylifting:

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Maybe with running of swimming, but comparing sheer strength? Most out of shape guys would crush fit girls.


:#marseyastronaut:

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Hard disagree, assuming you’re talking about women who lift rather than meaning like yoga and walking.

The thing is though, only like .1% of women lift, even among gymgoers. But at my gym, any woman that takes it semi-seriously can at least bench 135lbs.

That’s not much, but I’ve also seen plenty of scrawny guys crumple under that weight. Any man could easily train past that, but few do. The gen pop man is like 90 mg/dl test and a 75lb bench.

Hierarchy:

Me>men who lift>Men who’ve lifted for 3 months>Strong lifts guy>women who lift>men who play vidya>99% of women

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Honestly I still can’t picture it. I think I forget sometimes there are adult men under 5’10.


:#marseyastronaut:

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Average man is like 5’6-5’9. Good chunk is soyfaced and below 5’6”, so you have to account for them. But a classic corn fed male should be able to beat almost every woman.

I literally saw 3 people this week into the rack catches benching the bar, all men.

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That's crazy, I don't lift at all and I remember benching just the bar when I was like 14 years old lol.

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Average male height in US is 6’2”, there are modernized studies proving this. The older studies stating it was lower used severely flawed stats.

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Link? Sounds like bullshit but I’m not too invested either way.

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no? median in the US seems to be around 5’9 to 5’10 based on jewgle + some papers

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It’s 6’2”.

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it just depends. when I worked out 0x/day a bit ago I could physically destroy foids who did 4h/day of workout despite looking like a drugged up twink with anorexia, AIDS, and a meth habit. A lot of fit foids will lose to a lot of gay r-slur men.

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and probably 90% of moids couldn't outdo any foid that regularly works out.

You way underestimate the difference especially in upper-body strength between the genders.

The average moid - literally the average in upper body strength among men - is stronger than 90% of foids.

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Easily, probably closer to like 99%. I'm talking about the top 0.1% of foids that are actually regularly (and neurodivergentally) working out their upper body strength.

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90% of men are stronger than 90% of women.

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I mean, maybe if we're talking about soup can curling Seattleite antifa, they might be struggling against fit girls.

But sheer mass alone brings most men above even fit girls, not to mention having a constant supply of testosterone steroids and a propensity for upper body strength.

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God darn that foid needs some peepee

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men aren't better than women

wrong + cuck

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He's not towing the men and women are totally equal progressive line.

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I’ve always wondered, to what destination are people towing this imaginary line?

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You too. Toeing the line. You don't schlep the fricking line anywhere

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Toeing.

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A true man turns every microaggression into a macroaggression.

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:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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Not ending with a threat to rape her and any female descendant she might ever have

      

NGMI.

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Das rite

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This is an apology for all the shitty metadrama posts i've been making

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Apology accepted.

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"If I liked weak dudes I'd be into you but here we are"

Tough talking from the gender defeated by jars

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Women: can't open jar

Men: shatter jar with the sheer power of their anal muscles alone

Nobody:

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We jars are playing the long game; eventually even moids will fall before our implacable vacuum seals. The children of zoomers will be unable to open anything without assistance from special robots.

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Lmfao, tons of women with basically zero understanding of how to work out.

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When Women are made irrelevant by womb transplants homofascism can enter its final stage

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Mashallah

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fyi you mean "Inshallah"

  • Inshallah = hopefully that happens

  • Mashallah = oh heck yeah dude that just frickin happened

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I meant what I said.

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Homofascism has no space for the T. Wombs will be stored in flesh farming facilities.

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I only get my wombs from small, family-run farms that correctly gender their cattle

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It's always amusing when they know so little about lifting that they can't convincingly lie about it. One of my 110lb coworkers claimed she used to squat 225. C'mon bra

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Where's the transphobic part?

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They dare to suggest men and women are different

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oh, lol, of course

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On a sub called "xxfitness", implying MtF aren't welcome

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There are differences between the sexes. Don't you know this?

Literal hate crimes have trans-pired. :marseyrope:

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:marseygoodnight: :marseygoodnight: :marseygoodnight:

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customer service

This is a free program lol

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This exchange is bonkers

Anything about women’s rights gets immediately no-platformed as “transphobic.”

If women’s rights are transphobic, they’re admitting that the transgender movement is deeply sexist

The "transgender movement" is literally just trans people trying to exist in peace without having our rights and dignity legally and societally threatened with every breath until we kill ourselves or are the victims of transphobic violence at a young age.

Sincerely, a trans person

When it comes to sports, there's no denying claiming women’s sports is transphobic is deeply sexist

And....nobody who is in favor of trans rights is saying that? Trans women just want to play sports as women. Trans men just want to play sports as men. It's the transphobes that are trying to muddy the waters and saying whatever weird generalization you're making...because I've literally never heard another trans person make such a ridiculous claim.

(this goes on for like 30 replies)

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Well he went all out and above to reply to this r-slurred foid. I guess both are r-slurred

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Dunking on foids is always a good thing

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I used to do strong lifts when I started lifting. It’s kind of a shit program but Mehsi is pretty based. Think he’s Eastern European so not surprising.

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Could someone go in and rewrite all the mass units into kg I don't know if 300lbs is heavy or not since I hear amerifats say that they're skinny at 180lbs even though that sounds a lot. Or they call themselves "200lbs" of pure muscle or some shit which really confuses me as to whether or not being 100lb > is bad or not.

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Holy shit, of course a britbong or euro would be confused by a person being 90 kilos of muscle. In Americhad, our boys play real sports like football. And the growth horomone in our food + not cucked genetics mean we have people above 182 cm. tallyho pip pip Gloucester

But for betamales or women, 180 pounds is definitely fat. 100lbs feels like a magic number to anorexic women, but only really short foids should be that skinny. Healthy for beta male is 120-180 lbs depending on height, for women it’s like 90-150 lbs.

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Dude, we have Rugby, which is basically American Football without the body armour and the clock never stops. And instead of black guys were have man-mountain maoris who are still angry at us for wiping out half their people.

In fairness you guys do grow boys bigger over there. Our high-school coaches aren’t usually getting boys on steroids at 16, like.

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300 is around 135

100 is around 45

200 is around 90

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Cute and chunky haha. Thanks I love you.

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Rule of thumb is 2.2 lbs in every kilo. Can approximate by doing 2x and adding 10%.

50kilos becomes 100lbs + 10lbs = 110lbs. Actual number is 110.231.

Same idea in reverse. 180lbs becomes 90 kilos - 9 kilos = 81 kilos. Actual number is like 81.645.

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Is there a calculator shortage across the pond? Thoughts and prayers.

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As a Certified Radfem, I was fully prepared to side with the foid on this one, but holy shit, the "sexist remark" was fricking saying men are stronger than women? We're reaching levels of hypersensitivity that shouldn't even be possible. Based Chad calling her the moron she is.

What does that imply about trans men? That they're inferior men because they have female anatomy.

Yes.

lmao, he should challenge women who do BJJ or Judo and see what happens

Uhhh, he'll still win most likely. Unless the foid is a super well-trained BJJ practitioner. Frick judo.

I'm tempted to suggest calling him out on twitter.

I refuse to believe this isn't satire.

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And I thought guys on /fit/ were bad with the e-stating…

However I think the dude writing the e-mail is a bit delusional… Larry Wheels and Bradly Martyn both say they can count the number of women who have hit on them with 1 hand and fingers left over. Women like good looking dudes, strength is meh.

Handsome Manlet > Tall Lanklet > Hulking Manlet

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I hate to be that guy, but source? Plus, larry and bradley are both pretty good looking, so is their muscle active impinging on their attractiveness?

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I looked (for about 10 min) but couldn’t find the video. I should probably clear up that they said it was the number of women who dm them on social media.

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Lmao they're huge celebs imagine sliding into their dm's

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Connor Murphy (before he became a dramatist) and skywalker both showed some screenshots with quite a few.

Larry Wheels is currently working through his cam girl addiction so I’m not sure he gets as much attention as we think he does.

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Larry wheels resorts to porn? Woah, doesn't he have a girlfriend?

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His girl does/did onlyfans (not sure if there still together)

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"All powerlifting men's records are higher than those of women"

That's not even true, though. Marianna Gasparyan holds that all-time total record in the 123lb/56kg class, regardless of s*x: https://openpowerlifting.org/rankings/56/by-total

Will not be sourcing anything bc im not redditor but I'm gonna guess literally 0% of men who powerlift weight less than 130lbs lol, this is like being the brightest kid in special ed class

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They're also wrong because a certain dwarf squatted a lot more than her...

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I'm not a hardcore gym strag, but I've never seen anyone seriously care what anyone else in the gym is doing.

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Meh this girl is a little dramatic but he could've just ignored the email, you can smell the insecurity from his reply

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What idiots. Testosterone is an anabolic androgenic steroid. Exogenous testosterone is generally banned in most sports because of this. Men produce more testosterone than women. This hormone directly increase muscular strength as well as stimulating new muscle growth. Men are, all else equal, stronger because of this.

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dude bussy lmao


Snapshots:

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You know you dint have to mention everytime a woman lies coz then you would sound like a crazy person saying lies everytime a woman opens her mouth.

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