The West Australian today brings further results from the Utting Research poll that credited the state Liberals with a 54-46 lead, finding 58% planning to vote no on the Indigenous Voice compared with 29% for yes and 13% undecided.
Only 29% yes. Yikes
The poll further records 54% saying the stateโs Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act had made them less likely to vote for the Voice
Turns out councils being extorted 2.5 million dollars by abos to plant some trees might piss a few people off
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Holy shit with those sorts of numbers I was expecting Utting Research to be one of those ultra chud polling agencies that show up and say anything, but they seem to be relatively balanced and reasonable.
Could be an outlier but if true then the Voice might just be the catalyst of the chuddening of Australia. The comments on that article are funny though
Also @kaamrev apparently we're you of the South Pacific lol
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I looked at the West Australian article it's referencing, from what I could tell before the paywall it does seem to be all West Australians. Could be wrong still
Lately I've been thinking that Melbourne is the only reason the No vote won't win 2:1. Good chance it gets at least 60/40, with 65/35 at the outer reaches of probability.
>Could be an outlier but if true then the Voice might just be the catalyst of the chuddening of Australia.
That law is some bullshit though. Any farmer (or person with acreage) wanting to build a dam, dig any deeper than 12m, build a fence, do any land clearing for bush fire prevention, etc has to pay for an indigenous person to come out and make sure its not a 'sacred site' and also pay a permit for the works(price set by the indigenous elders). It's just funny how it's coincided with the referendum and has subsequently chudded an entire state
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The best bit about that law is that chuds pretty much have free licence to make shit up from here till referendum day because reality has finally caught up to Facebook comment sections
Don't they use 'Knowledge Holder' as a term but there is no criteria for what constitutes that? So it just defaults to literally any sufficiently old / loud Indigenous person?
Who qualifies as a knowledge holder is getting delegated to the various Aboriginal land corporations but none of thats been done yet. Hence the confusion.
Also, the prices they can charge per hour and for what kind of work have been set by the government, but it isn't capped, which makes sense at face value, but the whole thing is insane and was a serious reminder for everyone how out of touch the political class is.
Unfortunately, while the Liberals would likely overturn this legislation if they come to power, they are completely r-slurred and controlled by religious nut jobs and libertarian quacks.
I can't see any polling done them for either the last State or Federal elections. If this was Newspoll, Roy Morgan, or Resolve I'd give it some weight, if it was Essential I would side eye it, but without being able to compare how close their previous polling has been to actual election results its not worth the pixels illuminating my greasy unshaven face.
redditors are saying they likely polled mostly-boomers, which I'm inclined to agree with.
While I don't doubt No is stomping in WA, given the heritage kerfuffle, 58/29/13 is too steep imo. Hence why I thought it might have been referring to the opinions of WA State Libs.
I would round down to No beating Yes in WA by 55-45, or 60-40, or something in-between. Assume the gap is widening each month, especially if on the lower end (55-45), given the ongoing controversies.
It's amazing that forcing homeowners to pay a bribe to the local abo corporation before they can lay a driveway on their own land just might cause some resentment.
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Only 29% yes. Yikes
WA already has that indigenous land consultation thing don't they? one week of that and they'd have had more than enough "indigenous advisory" for a lifetime
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Only 29% yes. Yikes
Turns out councils being extorted 2.5 million dollars by abos to plant some trees might piss a few people off
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Holy shit with those sorts of numbers I was expecting Utting Research to be one of those ultra chud polling agencies that show up and say anything, but they seem to be relatively balanced and reasonable.
Could be an outlier but if true then the Voice might just be the catalyst of the chuddening of Australia. The comments on that article are funny though
Also @kaamrev apparently we're you of the South Pacific lol
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58/29/13 could be referring to the WA state Libs, not WA proper. Still I'd imagine WA to go No.
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I looked at the West Australian article it's referencing, from what I could tell before the paywall it does seem to be all West Australians. Could be wrong still
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wow, if that's really true...lol.
Lately I've been thinking that Melbourne is the only reason the No vote won't win 2:1. Good chance it gets at least 60/40, with 65/35 at the outer reaches of probability.
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At this point I think Vic might be the only Yes state outright. I've seen sentiments shift a lot in NSW over the past few months
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Resolve has been giving Tassie as slightly more Yes than Vic for a couple polls now. I think Vic is less a given than people think.
It'd be hilarious if Tas was the only Yes state and it was the reverse of the red mainland map.
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I forgot tas existed when I posted that tbh
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That law is some bullshit though. Any farmer (or person with acreage) wanting to build a dam, dig any deeper than 12m, build a fence, do any land clearing for bush fire prevention, etc has to pay for an indigenous person to come out and make sure its not a 'sacred site' and also pay a permit for the works(price set by the indigenous elders). It's just funny how it's coincided with the referendum and has subsequently chudded an entire state
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The best bit about that law is that chuds pretty much have free licence to make shit up from here till referendum day because reality has finally caught up to Facebook comment sections
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Don't they use 'Knowledge Holder' as a term but there is no criteria for what constitutes that? So it just defaults to literally any sufficiently old / loud Indigenous person?
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Not exactly.
Who qualifies as a knowledge holder is getting delegated to the various Aboriginal land corporations but none of thats been done yet. Hence the confusion.
Also, the prices they can charge per hour and for what kind of work have been set by the government, but it isn't capped, which makes sense at face value, but the whole thing is insane and was a serious reminder for everyone how out of touch the political class is.
Unfortunately, while the Liberals would likely overturn this legislation if they come to power, they are completely r-slurred and controlled by religious nut jobs and libertarian quacks.
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I think "take this poison or be imprisoned in your house LOL" was an important red pill for many upside-downers
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Lol a state where personal interaction with Aboriginals is an everyday occurrence voting No?
Must be racism... definitely not losing an sympathy by being accosted in front of the train station.
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I don't think they're reliable tbh.
I can't see any polling done them for either the last State or Federal elections. If this was Newspoll, Roy Morgan, or Resolve I'd give it some weight, if it was Essential I would side eye it, but without being able to compare how close their previous polling has been to actual election results its not worth the pixels illuminating my greasy unshaven face.
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redditors are saying they likely polled mostly-boomers, which I'm inclined to agree with.
While I don't doubt No is stomping in WA, given the heritage kerfuffle, 58/29/13 is too steep imo. Hence why I thought it might have been referring to the opinions of WA State Libs.
I would round down to No beating Yes in WA by 55-45, or 60-40, or something in-between. Assume the gap is widening each month, especially if on the lower end (55-45), given the ongoing controversies.
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It's amazing that forcing homeowners to pay a bribe to the local abo corporation before they can lay a driveway on their own land just might cause some resentment.
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The jewish kosher tax where you have to hire a rabi for your food to be kosher really is catching on. It's a constant money stream for your culture.
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That makes sense though, wouldn't it be false advertising if a rabbi wasn't involved?
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It's awefully strange their dietary restrictions require companies to pay them to make their food.
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It's based on old religious
nonsenselaws, and it gets streamlined alongside commerce over the centuries. How is that strange, ya r-slur?Even the Muslims have a similar agreement with "Halal" and business.
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There weren't large factories producing food centuries ago. It's a very transparent cash grab r-slur.
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Why is charging for a service so bad? They're not jannies, you know.
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I didn't say it was bad. I just said its a kosher tax and other groups are learning to copy them.
You're the one that projected judgements onto that.
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And what's so strange about that, pinkoid?
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I unironically support all aboriginal movemsnts in Australia. Its not hard to figure out: Group of criminals get sent to Island, support them or suppodt the cool boomerang hunting darkies who dom't even have laws in which to break. Btw, australian whites are cute twinks.
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I beg to differ, Look at my sniffer.
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WA already has that indigenous land consultation thing don't they? one week of that and they'd have had more than enough "indigenous advisory" for a lifetime
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